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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 3, 2018 21:52:39 GMT -6
We've got a lineman that got a stinger on his left shoulder in a game a couple weeks ago. Good kid, tough kid that plays both ways. He was not able to continue on defense - couldn't shoot his hands - but powered through on offense. His dad took him to a sports ortho because the kid was in significant pain and he was afraid it was a torn rotator cuff or something. Doc told him, "It's a stinger - basically a bruise on the nerve. It could take a couple days or a couple months to heal. He can play without doing further damage but the pain may be severe." Kid said, "I'm a senior, I'm not sitting" and dad agreed.
Friday night he was back on the field (offense and defense) and got rocked, got another stinger. He came out for a series but went back on offense. Couldn't shoot his hands so he stuck to offense. Kid is super sore, dad took him to a muscle & joint doctor for therapy. That guy said, "It's a stinger, ice the surrounding muscles, take anti-inflammatory to reduce inflammation and play through the pain if you think you can. But know this - you are susceptible to these injuries and you WILL get another one." Kid again said, "I'm playing, don't try to stop me because you will lose."
All that to ask, is there something he can do or some kind of protective equipment that this kid can use? We're wondering about those foam shoulder pad skeletons, if they will help. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Oct 4, 2018 3:14:33 GMT -6
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Post by CS on Oct 4, 2018 3:14:33 GMT -6
I got one my senior year and I wore an extra pad underneath my shoulder pads. We called it a stinger pad but I’m not sure if that’s the actual name for it.
They make those pull over shirts that go under shoulder pads that are the same thing
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Oct 4, 2018 5:51:59 GMT -6
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Post by morris on Oct 4, 2018 5:51:59 GMT -6
We call them spider pads. They are about an inch or so think and webbed. You put it on under the shoulder pads. You’re sports guy should have them. We only have a couple but we plan on getting more. When I played all our skill kids wore them along with some lineman.
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Post by OleCoach on Oct 4, 2018 6:07:57 GMT -6
You're right Morris on the name. I wore one for the same reason, but I had them in my back/neck and shoulder. I also wore a butterfly plate that served the same purpose as the old school roll or cowboy collar. I had way too many (29) and the pain is tough. Mine always felt like I was burning or like the stinging sensation you get when your feet get from "being asleep", but the Dr. is right for sure. He can play as long as he can handle the pain. Proud of the kid being tough! Many would rather not continue that night.
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Post by chainbucket on Oct 4, 2018 6:08:19 GMT -6
Alot of times these injuries are a result of the head snapping and pinching a nerve in the neck. If the pain radiates down the arm and is accompanied by tingling and burning that is what it is. That being said he can wear any of the devices that restrict neck movement like a cowboy collar or a douglas butterfly restrictor.
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Post by newhope on Oct 4, 2018 6:40:05 GMT -6
The pads help. Here's a new one for you: our new rookie trainer thinks they're concussions and puts them on a protocol if they get a stinger. Driving me nuts (and that's not the worst of it--you really don't want to get me started on drama and code blacks)
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Post by OleCoach on Oct 4, 2018 6:43:05 GMT -6
There's a huge difference in pain and symptoms, so what's the reasoning or qualifications of this fella?
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Post by coachcb on Oct 4, 2018 7:54:29 GMT -6
We've used the Spider Pads in the past and they help to prevent stingers but they don't speed up the healing process. The kid needs to be taking care of it; alternating between ice and heat, taking ibuprofen, and resting. It might not be a bad idea to limit his contact during practice or it could get to the point where he's hurting too bad to do ANYTHING come game day, regardless of how tough he is.
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Post by coachriley on Oct 4, 2018 9:02:26 GMT -6
I thought I got a stinger one time in practice my Sophomore year, it turned out to be a dislocated shoulder lol. Icing it and just rest is gonna work best for him.
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Oct 4, 2018 9:04:43 GMT -6
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Post by silkyice on Oct 4, 2018 9:04:43 GMT -6
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 4, 2018 9:06:03 GMT -6
Thanks very much, guys, I appreciate it.
He's icing, taking Aleve, doing ROM therapy and we're holding him out of full contact drills. Kid's a gamer and wants to play.
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Post by coachjo14 on Oct 12, 2018 11:34:58 GMT -6
When I was in High school and m first year coaching I saw a ridiculous amount of shoulder injuries. We rarely did anything for our shoulders in the weight room... As a coach I have always given out a heavy dose of shoulder stuff and we have rarely had any shoulder issues since my first year as an assistant.
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Post by CS on Oct 13, 2018 7:38:18 GMT -6
We had a kid lay a lick last night and get up screaming with his arm all gancked up. Everyone in the stadium thought it was broke. Turns out it was a stinger and he was scared cause he couldn’t move his arm at first
Played the rest of the game
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Oct 13, 2018 10:37:42 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 10:37:42 GMT -6
I used to get these in high school and college. Usually a result of my head being pushed one way and my should another really putting a stretch on the nerves. I would usually get the burning and tingling sensation and then it would take a play or two for my nerves to wake back up. I have no lasting damage from this, and I used to get 3 or 4 in a practice and 1 or 2 a game.
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Oct 13, 2018 21:03:00 GMT -6
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Post by coachks on Oct 13, 2018 21:03:00 GMT -6
Echo for whats been said. I used to get them (it)? in the same spot where my trap hits the neck. Hindsight tells me its from getting my head across the tackle - exposes the neck and gets that head snap motion. The shoulder shockers may or may not help. Hopefully he gets used to it. Eventually I got to the point that I looked forward to it, because it was relief from anticipating it happening.
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Oct 13, 2018 21:24:53 GMT -6
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Post by silkyice on Oct 13, 2018 21:24:53 GMT -6
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Post by sweep26 on Oct 14, 2018 7:54:17 GMT -6
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Post by silkyice on Oct 14, 2018 8:50:29 GMT -6
$149 last time we bought one.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 15, 2018 8:40:08 GMT -6
Our kid has been using a spider pad and he said it is definitely helping. I asked him after our game Friday night and he said he got whacked on a play and was fine - he said without the spider pad that he's pretty sure he'd have gotten another stinger.
I told his dad about the KERR collar - looks interesting. His dad said, $150? Umm... no."
I appreciate all the advice!
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