coachrj
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Post by coachrj on Sept 19, 2018 11:06:22 GMT -6
Yesterday the PAT group is coming on to the field to kick during special teams period. Looking for some fun, I asked my big guard "hey Louie (not his name) what does P.A.T. stand for?" "ummm, extra point coach." Me:"well, fair enough, so long and you know you're on it."
They may not know the intricacies of the game, but he's 330 and linebackers run away from him when he's skip pulling through the hole, so I don't really care how much he watches.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 18:46:54 GMT -6
Have any of you noticed a trend among today's players, compared to players from even a little as 5-6 years ago, not knowing the game of football. For instance, watched a college game last night where the winning team was trying to run out the clock. The play was a RB off tackle that gets bounced out a bit and gets some yardage, but the RB ran out of bounds stopping the clock. I see it on Fridays at games I go watch (retired) and it happened all the time the last few years I coached. Do kids even watch football anymore? Kids have always made boneheaded mistakes, but it seems that now in the era of the Spread and no huddle, a lot of basic situational awareness about clock management has fallen by the wayside. Years ago, a kid I'd coached just walked off the field on a kickoff return. He didn't fair catch it. Didn't touch it. Didn't even try to touch it. They kicked it to him, ball rolled on the ground down to the 20... and he just backed away from it like a punt and casually walked to the sideline while it was a live ball. Thankfully another player on the team realized the mistake and dove on it as the kicking team ran down to recover it. I'm always leary of blaming "low football IQ" on kids, though. I worked for a guy who did that once and it was just his way of pointing the finger at the players not knowing the game because he was just a piss poor teacher of it.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 20, 2018 12:06:41 GMT -6
Have any of you noticed a trend among today's players, compared to players from even a little as 5-6 years ago, not knowing the game of football. For instance, watched a college game last night where the winning team was trying to run out the clock. The play was a RB off tackle that gets bounced out a bit and gets some yardage, but the RB ran out of bounds stopping the clock. I see it on Fridays at games I go watch (retired) and it happened all the time the last few years I coached. Do kids even watch football anymore? Kids have always made boneheaded mistakes, but it seems that now in the era of the Spread and no huddle, a lot of basic situational awareness about clock management has fallen by the wayside. Years ago, a kid I'd coached just walked off the field on a kickoff return. He didn't fair catch it. Didn't touch it. Didn't even try to touch it. They kicked it to him, ball rolled on the ground down to the 20... and he just backed away from it like a punt and casually walked to the sideline while it was a live ball. Thankfully another player on the team realized the mistake and dove on it as the kicking team ran down to recover it. I'm always leary of blaming "low football IQ" on kids, though. I worked for a guy who did that once and it was just his way of pointing the finger at the players not knowing the game because he was just a piss poor teacher of it. We're seeing the same thing on special teams. A team onsided to us a few weeks ago; a chitty, slow roll kick. Our kids backed away from the ball instead of jumping on it because they didn't "want to get a penalty".
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Post by silkyice on Sept 20, 2018 12:11:10 GMT -6
Kids have always made boneheaded mistakes, but it seems that now in the era of the Spread and no huddle, a lot of basic situational awareness about clock management has fallen by the wayside. Years ago, a kid I'd coached just walked off the field on a kickoff return. He didn't fair catch it. Didn't touch it. Didn't even try to touch it. They kicked it to him, ball rolled on the ground down to the 20... and he just backed away from it like a punt and casually walked to the sideline while it was a live ball. Thankfully another player on the team realized the mistake and dove on it as the kicking team ran down to recover it. I'm always leary of blaming "low football IQ" on kids, though. I worked for a guy who did that once and it was just his way of pointing the finger at the players not knowing the game because he was just a piss poor teacher of it. We're seeing the same thing on special teams. A team onsided to us a few weeks ago; a chitty, slow roll kick. Our kids backed away from the ball instead of jumping on it because they didn't "want to get a penalty". Not trying to be a jerk, but have y'all not practiced that?
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Post by newhope on Sept 20, 2018 15:48:34 GMT -6
Have any of you noticed a trend among today's players, compared to players from even a little as 5-6 years ago, not knowing the game of football. For instance, watched a college game last night where the winning team was trying to run out the clock. The play was a RB off tackle that gets bounced out a bit and gets some yardage, but the RB ran out of bounds stopping the clock. I see it on Fridays at games I go watch (retired) and it happened all the time the last few years I coached. Do kids even watch football anymore? Not sure that's changed that much. Back in the early 1990s, we were practicing kickoff returns. Kicker mishit the ball, it rolled like an onside kick. A kid, very smart but nerdy and not what you think of a football player, just watched it roll past him. Assistant coach went nuts "Haven't you ever even seen a football game before?" Another kid standing on the sideline replies "They ain't got football on PBS, coach"
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Post by coachjps on Sept 22, 2018 20:00:03 GMT -6
I was at youth football game today and after the kids kept getting penalized for borderline blocks/tackles, they started saying to each other “ok guys no more hit sticks”. Like many in this society their football knowledge comes from Madden or fantasy football.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 24, 2018 7:01:34 GMT -6
We're seeing the same thing on special teams. A team onsided to us a few weeks ago; a chitty, slow roll kick. Our kids backed away from the ball instead of jumping on it because they didn't "want to get a penalty". Not trying to be a jerk, but have y'all not practiced that? Yeah, we have and we practiced it during two separate periods the week before this game as the team we were playing loves to onside it in weird situations. The kids did it during practice but then chit the bed come game day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 7:54:43 GMT -6
Day 1 with our kids starts with me asking them this
"Does anyone here not know how to read a diagram?"...them i explain it anyway
Anymore you cant assume anyone knows anything, dont leave anything to chance , teach them
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Post by windigo on Oct 2, 2018 1:02:36 GMT -6
Have any of you noticed a trend among today's players, compared to players from even a little as 5-6 years ago, not knowing the game of football. For instance, watched a college game last night where the winning team was trying to run out the clock. The play was a RB off tackle that gets bounced out a bit and gets some yardage, but the RB ran out of bounds stopping the clock. I see it on Fridays at games I go watch (retired) and it happened all the time the last few years I coached. Do kids even watch football anymore? When I was in college we practiced both 2 minute drill and burn drill (burn the clock). Everyone knows 2 minute drill. I dont think too many are still practicing burn.
Burn
Never run out of bounds.
Go down when wrapped up. Dont fight for extra yards.
Leave the ball where you were tackled. Force the ref to go get the ball.
We didn't run this very often but we ran it often at the end of 11 on.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 2, 2018 7:12:33 GMT -6
Have any of you noticed a trend among today's players, compared to players from even a little as 5-6 years ago, not knowing the game of football. For instance, watched a college game last night where the winning team was trying to run out the clock. The play was a RB off tackle that gets bounced out a bit and gets some yardage, but the RB ran out of bounds stopping the clock. I see it on Fridays at games I go watch (retired) and it happened all the time the last few years I coached. Do kids even watch football anymore? When I was in college we practiced both 2 minute drill and burn drill (burn the clock). Everyone knows 2 minute drill. I dont think too many are still practicing burn.
Burn Never run out of bounds. Go down when wrapped up. Dont fight for extra yards. Leave the ball where you were tackled. Force the ref to go get the ball.
We didn't run this very often but we ran it often at the end of 11 on.
One more point, get outside the hashes. This forces the refs to have to mark the ball and then move it before they can set the ready for play. Can easily add 10 seconds to series of downs and probably a lot more unless the refs are really hustling. The best way to do this is to get on the right hash and run right. Or vice versa.
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