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Post by dubber on Aug 23, 2018 12:56:33 GMT -6
Maybe I take this for granted, but one of the BEST parts of coaching is the fraternity of our staff.
Now, we've been together since 2007, so maybe that has something to do with it.
We've had awesome teams, average teams, and teams that won 3 games, but through it all, it is really enjoyable to have guys who share the same values, set their egos aside, really care about the kids, and sacrifice for football.
I could not imagine a staff where we didn't hang out after games until 2 am, get together in the offseason for meetings/chill time, yell at officials at basketball games, EPIC clinic adventures, etc........
It just wouldn't be as fun.
So many of the guys I played with in college are coordinators (even HC's) now, but the situation is sooooo good where I am at, I have no problem coaching DT's and OL for the next 3 decades.
So my question is: Is it rare to have such a strong bond with the guys I coach with?
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Post by gccwolverine on Aug 23, 2018 13:00:07 GMT -6
Maybe I take this for granted, but one of the BEST parts of coaching is the fraternity of our staff. Now, we've been together since 2007, so maybe that has something to do with it. We've had awesome teams, average teams, and teams that won 3 games, but through it all, it is really enjoyable to have guys who share the same values, set their egos aside, really care about the kids, and sacrifice for football. I could not imagine a staff where we didn't hang out after games until 2 am, get together in the offseason for meetings/chill time, yell at officials at basketball games, EPIC clinic adventures, etc........ It just wouldn't be as fun. So many of the guys I played with in college are coordinators (even HC's) now, but the situation is sooooo good where I am at, I have no problem coaching DT's and OL for the next 3 decades. So my question is: Is it rare to have such a strong bond with the guys I coach with? If everyone has invested the same sweat equity into it the bond is strong. If they haven't the bond doesn't become as strong. There's 5 guys on our staff I'm really close with 4 I'm not. the 5 are the workers, the film watchers, the doers, the coachers. The 4 are just there stealing a check. |
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Post by dubber on Aug 23, 2018 13:05:35 GMT -6
Maybe I take this for granted, but one of the BEST parts of coaching is the fraternity of our staff. Now, we've been together since 2007, so maybe that has something to do with it. We've had awesome teams, average teams, and teams that won 3 games, but through it all, it is really enjoyable to have guys who share the same values, set their egos aside, really care about the kids, and sacrifice for football. I could not imagine a staff where we didn't hang out after games until 2 am, get together in the offseason for meetings/chill time, yell at officials at basketball games, EPIC clinic adventures, etc........ It just wouldn't be as fun. So many of the guys I played with in college are coordinators (even HC's) now, but the situation is sooooo good where I am at, I have no problem coaching DT's and OL for the next 3 decades. So my question is: Is it rare to have such a strong bond with the guys I coach with? If everyone has invested the same sweat equity into it the bond is strong. If they haven't the bond doesn't become as strong. There's 5 guys on our staff I'm really close with 4 I'm not. the 5 are the workers, the film watchers, the doers, the coachers. The 4 are just there stealing a check. I can't imagine doing this for the money |
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Post by coachcb on Aug 23, 2018 13:34:18 GMT -6
I would say yes, that strong of a bond is rare on any staff. Your staff not only works well together professionally but you get along personally as well. That can be a tough combination to find, especially in what can be the ego-driven coaching profession. The staff I'm with not works well together but we're not tight on a personal level. They're great, personable guys and coaching with them is fun but we're all very different people and I don't know that we'll ever have a strong personal bond. We've hung out as a staff a few times and it's very apparent that we just don't have much in common, other than football.
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Post by stilltryin on Aug 23, 2018 15:59:50 GMT -6
Don't know how rare it is, but it definitely makes the good times better and the bad times more tolerable when you have that bond, and know everybody's pulling in the same direction. We had the opposite a few years ago ... a couple of guys who were more worried about getting credit, or angling for their next job, than they were about the kids or the program. They got those jobs, and it was definitely addition by subtraction.Two playoff runs the last two years, a title, and the knowledge that you're working with a bunch of guys who, if it came to it, would put the kids, the program, and each other, ahead of their own self-interest.
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Post by coachbdud on Aug 23, 2018 21:35:47 GMT -6
I have coached with guys i like, guys i hate, and guys who were my best friends... sometimes guys would be multiple of these things
it is way more fun to coach with guys you like and enjoy spending time around
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Post by fshamrock on Aug 24, 2018 8:00:40 GMT -6
I've been on some really good ones and it makes the job way better and coming to work a joy. The one I'm on now is not so great, the male ego, while being a driving force behind the advancement of human civilization, can be a PITA when it comes to football staffs. We are at a place where the kids are awesome and most seasons you will be competitive-good, most of the coaches are from here, they ain't leaving, and all of them pretty much feel like they should be coordinators....so issues arise, it's a shame too, they are good guys individually, but they have broken up into little factions like we're on an a season of survivor or something. oh well
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Post by gccwolverine on Aug 24, 2018 8:58:35 GMT -6
I've been on some really good ones and it makes the job way better and coming to work a joy. The one I'm on now is not so great, the male ego, while being a driving force behind the advancement of human civilization, can be a PITA when it comes to football staffs. We are at a place where the kids are awesome and most seasons you will be competitive-good, most of the coaches are from here, they ain't leaving, and all of them pretty much feel like they should be coordinators....so issues arise, it's a shame too, they are good guys individually, but they have broken up into little factions like we're on an a season of survivor or something. oh well It's the other way here. The guys that are from here are just guys on staff, they have no desire to do anything above show up on Friday nights and the bare minimum monday-friday. We play today, first game, 3 of them haven't seen a clip of practice film all summer. But they are "coaches." |
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Post by coachtua on Aug 24, 2018 12:17:29 GMT -6
Our current staff gets along pretty well. 3 of us were HS teammates, 1 of our guys dad coached with the HC, 2 on our staff were former players of ours at a different school.
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Post by RuningOutOfOptions on Aug 24, 2018 12:29:02 GMT -6
I was told by a DC I coached with:
"Football is an amazing thing, only thanks to coaching together could I ever be friends with a idiot socialist like you"
He is an Army guy and it's kind of hard to read sometimes if he was joking or not, but I choose to believe he was joking at least about the idiot part
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Post by wingtol on Aug 24, 2018 13:33:22 GMT -6
Our staff is very close, or at least till this year as a few guys were unable to coach but have been around a bit. We were friends who coached together not coaches who were friends if that makes sense. HC has been my best friend since we were 4. Other guys who were a part but not coaching now were with us well over a decade one being a friend of ours since high school and another former a former player who I also had a student.
Current returning staff is a very good group of guys who all know their places and there are no egos or anyone looking at this as a resume builder. Friends with them but not as close as our original staff. Makes things so much easier when everyone is cool with each other and there are no issues or power struggles amongst the staff.
Been very lucky for a long time to be part of good staffs my whole career.
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Post by bleefb on Aug 26, 2018 9:37:51 GMT -6
It's great when you have it, and Hell when you don't.
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Post by hunhdisciple on Aug 27, 2018 6:19:35 GMT -6
When I got married, my entire side of the wedding party were guys I've coached with.
Having a staff where everyone is close makes everyone invested. And that's always great.
Having a staff where nobody is that close is pretty awful.
I don't think it's required for a successful team, but it definitely helps.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 27, 2018 8:51:00 GMT -6
I have coached with guys i like, guys i hate, and guys who were my best friends... sometimes guys would be multiple of these things it is way more fun to coach with guys you like and enjoy spending time around Agreed.. I look to see how a staff interacts before I agree to coach with them. I've had too many bad experiences coaching with staffs that had a bad dynamic. I was the freshmen/JV HC/OC and worked with the younger OL/DL for a year and had a lot of fun with the freshmen/JV staff. NoT so much with the varsity staff as there was a lot of egotism and bickering going on with them. The next year, the varsity OL/DL coach resigned and I was offered the position. I turned it down and moved on. The program was reasonably successful but I didn't want to deal with the infighting on the varsity level. I volunteered at a powerhouse program for a few years after, with staff who had the same level of comradery that dubber described. It was a fantastic move. The previous program was a class under us and I went to watch them compete in a semi-final game. The coaching staff looked like a bunch of whipped dogs before that game, the tension between all of them was thick and I was thrilled that I wasn't a part of it. |
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Post by nicku on Aug 27, 2018 10:07:00 GMT -6
Only been in this for two years, but already know I could never work somewhere that the staff doesn't really enjoy each other.
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