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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 14, 2018 13:56:16 GMT -6
The deal breaker for me right off the bat is that the basketball coach is the AD Or baseball. Just about as bad. So what is more common? Not a coach at all? Because I am sure equal disdain would be expressed for any women's sport coach as well...
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Post by CS on Jul 14, 2018 14:17:25 GMT -6
Or baseball. Just about as bad. So what is more common? Not a coach at all? Because I am sure equal disdain would be expressed for any women's sport coach as well... Either I’m the AD ornthe AD is a former football coach IMO
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 14, 2018 14:21:57 GMT -6
So what is more common? Not a coach at all? Because I am sure equal disdain would be expressed for any women's sport coach as well... Either I’m the AD ornthe AD is a former football coach IMO Without being argumentative, is there any reason why? Do basketball,baseball, soccer coaches say "you know what, if the AD is a HC it is a deal breaker?"
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Post by CS on Jul 14, 2018 14:40:53 GMT -6
Either I’m the AD ornthe AD is a former football coach IMO Without being argumentative, is there any reason why? Do basketball,baseball, soccer coaches say "you know what, if the AD is a HC it is a deal breaker?" I personally don’t care what they think cause this is what is a deal breaker for me. I wouldn’t take a HC job at a school with a basketball AD because 99% of the time it’s a basketball school and that’s what the community and school care about. It has been discussed on here ad nauseam that basketball coaches don’t see the benefits of a full year weightlifting program for all sports female and male. I could make an exception if I personally know the AD and we have a similar philosophy about running a program. All that being said I have never disliked any of the basketball coaches I have worked with(until this year)but I would work for none as an AD.
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Post by **** on Jul 14, 2018 17:42:38 GMT -6
Basketball coaches are the worst. Baseball is right behind.
Every other sport promotes multi-sport athletes.
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Post by carookie on Jul 14, 2018 17:51:55 GMT -6
Basketball coaches are the worst. Baseball is right behind. Every other sport promotes multi-sport athletes. I wonder how much of that comes from being a winter sport? Being sandwiched between the other two seasons could make them share on each end. Football, being a fall sport, allows us to pull the, "focus on the next upcoming sport" line and steal summer.
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Post by CS on Jul 14, 2018 18:40:21 GMT -6
Basketball coaches are the worst. Baseball is right behind. Every other sport promotes multi-sport athletes. I have never had any problems with baseball coaches. Partly because I was the baseball coach at 2 schools, 1 the guy was also a football coach and now we just don’t share that many with the guy so it’s not a huge problem. Basketball coaches annoy me more than any other breed though. It’s truly the whinyest coaching showcase on the planet
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Post by **** on Jul 14, 2018 18:46:17 GMT -6
Basketball coaches are the worst. Baseball is right behind. Every other sport promotes multi-sport athletes. I wonder how much of that comes from being a winter sport? Being sandwiched between the other two seasons could make them share on each end. Football, being a fall sport, allows us to pull the, "focus on the next upcoming sport" line and steal summer. I believe it’s because basketball is easy to play year round. Weather is not an issue. You only need a ball. Zero equipment. If football was that easily accessible we’d probably be just as bad. We don’t have indoor facilities, need a lot of equipment, etc. Then I also feel like every basketball coach with a 6’5” big man thinks his kid is gonna go to the nba because he puts up 30 a game. Yet the kid can’t dribble to save his life and is only good because he’s taller than about everybody else. But the coach can never recognize that. He just wants his best kid Billy to focus on basketball 24/7 and tells Billy if he does and plays AAU he’s gonna get a nice fancy scholarship. But no college wants him because he’s not big enough to play big and can’t dribble well enough to play guard. Coach never gets that though. When Billy could have be helping other programs.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 14, 2018 23:30:03 GMT -6
That should be a deal breaker. It’s your team it should be your culture and the weight room is where culture is harvested.
Other deal breakers for me that I’ve heard other coaches go through:
-Admin not moving with a sense of urgency to the HC a set of keys. He was hired to be the HC in February and didn’t get keys until July. -Giving another teacher, who’s not a coach, the 6th period football class. -Counselors who won’t put your players into the 6th period class because they need to “broaden their horizons in other electives” -This has happened to me: Admin telling you you can’t use certain facilities because another sport reserved them. Not a big deal, right? Then when you show up when the other sport is supposed to be practicing so you can talk with the coach (who apparently doesn’t check their email) they’re not even there. When you inform admin, they give you the run around and tell you it’s not their problem because they “put in the proper paperwork”
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Post by vanden48 on Jul 15, 2018 22:26:09 GMT -6
I can tell you that my next HC job I will want to have complete control over my assistant hires and fires. I also want to be able to split their stipends if I need additional coaches. I inherited my assistants now. They are fine now, but there was a huge trust loyalty bridge that needed to be crossed before we actually worked well together. That can usually be weeded out in an interview process. But if all the assistants know they are already on board, it can make things difficult.
In terms of the weight room. I would have to be in control of it. That doesn't mean I have to run it, just be in control of what is being done. I'm the final decision maker for the off-season training.
But deal breaker next time is if I don't have complete control of my staff.
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Post by coachdawhip on Aug 11, 2018 8:18:43 GMT -6
I think we worry 2 much about the wrong times...
I feel as though I have been a semi-decent HC and non of my 3 AD's in my going on 6 years have been football guys...
The only help I get is I have 10 coaches in my building..
I don't have control of my budget.. I don't have all my kids in weight training... I don't have a football athletic period nor own stadium nor a fieldhouse.
But over the last 5 years we have made the playoffs every year and won region once and been to the 3rd round.
The ? becomes, how many solutions can you create to the problems you might see and if it ain't enough don't take it...
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Post by vanden48 on Aug 15, 2018 20:11:32 GMT -6
I think we worry 2 much about the wrong times... I feel as though I have been a semi-decent HC and non of my 3 AD's in my going on 6 years have been football guys... The only help I get is I have 10 coaches in my building.. I don't have control of my budget.. I don't have all my kids in weight training... I don't have a football athletic period nor own stadium nor a fieldhouse. But over the last 5 years we have made the playoffs every year and won region once and been to the 3rd round. The ? becomes, how many solutions can you create to the problems you might see and if it ain't enough don't take it... Can't say it any better.
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