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Post by newhope on Mar 20, 2018 8:32:57 GMT -6
Unless what the HC is advocating is unsafe, illegal or causes real harm to kids, then do what he says. You don't have to agree with his overall philosophy or scheme. If it's something you can't do, move on.
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Post by aceback76 on Mar 20, 2018 8:38:10 GMT -6
Wondering if anyone has had experiences where they have major differences in philosophy and scheme among their staff/HC. If you were stuck in your spot, did you just bite the bullet and teach something you felt/knew was wrong? Not saying like wing-t vs spread, but things that you felt were fundamentally wrong. Just remember: The Head Coach isn't always right, but her is always the Head Coach!!! PS: Don't be the "cancer" on the staff! If there is any disagreement, it must be agreeably, & behind CLOSED DOORS!
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Post by coachcb on Mar 20, 2018 8:53:10 GMT -6
Wondering if anyone has had experiences where they have major differences in philosophy and scheme among their staff/HC. If you were stuck in your spot, did you just bite the bullet and teach something you felt/knew was wrong? Not saying like wing-t vs spread, but things that you felt were fundamentally wrong. Just remember: The Head Coach isn't always right, but her is always the Head Coach!!! PS: Don't be the "cancer" on the staff! If there is any disagreement, it must be agreeably, & behind CLOSED DOORS! This is something that I have had to convey to p-ssed off assistants when I have been a coordinator in the past. They will be upset about how an HC wants something taught, said-HC won't give on it and I always end up telling them "He's the boss and it's name on the program. So, we do things his way." I will say this, in most of those situations, the HC has tried to throw the staff under the bus at some point and have gotten an earful behind closed doors over it. I was the OL coach in a multiple formation, UC IZ/OZ/Power/Counter team one year and the OL wasn't getting enough time to properly rep our zone blocking. The HC/OC expected us to rep all of the necessary skills (including pass pro) within our 10-15 minute block of Indy time. The OL looked like crap, we couldn't run the ball to save our lives, I asked the HC/OC for more Indy time with the OL repeatedly and he shot me down as he wanted to spend half of practice running "Team O". He made an off-hand comment in the office one day about how I "wasn't getting the job done" and I laid into him over it. I told him to take the OL if he thought he could do a better job with the time he was allotting us.
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Post by aceback76 on Mar 20, 2018 9:03:52 GMT -6
Just remember: The Head Coach isn't always right, but her is always the Head Coach!!! PS: Don't be the "cancer" on the staff! If there is any disagreement, it must be agreeably, & behind CLOSED DOORS! This is something that I have had to convey to p-ssed off assistants when I have been a coordinator in the past. They will be upset about how an HC wants something taught, said-HC won't give on it and I always end up telling them "He's the boss and it's name on the program. So, we do things his way." I will say this, in most of those situations, the HC has tried to throw the staff under the bus at some point and have gotten an earful behind closed doors over it. I was the OL coach in a multiple formation, UC IZ/OZ/Power/Counter team one year and the OL wasn't getting enough time to properly rep our zone blocking. The HC/OC expected us to rep all of the necessary skills (including pass pro) within our 10-15 minute block of Indy time. The OL looked like crap, we couldn't run the ball to save our lives, I asked the HC/OC for more Indy time with the OL repeatedly and he shot me down as he wanted to spend half of practice running "Team O". He made an off-hand comment in the office one day about how I "wasn't getting the job done" and I laid into him over it. I told him to take the OL if he thought he could do a better job with the time he was allotting us. Each "situation" will be somewhat different, but as a Head Coach, I was VERY CAREFUL as to whom I hired. When I was an assistant, I was very careful who I wished to work FOR. ALWAYS felt the following was the best advice (for Career "advancement): Loyalty If you work for a man, in heaven's name work for him. If he pays you wages which supply you bread and butter, work for him; speak well of him; stand by him, and stand by the institution he represents. If put to a pinch, an ounce of loyalty is worth a pound of cleverness. If you must vilify, condemn, and eternally disparage, resign your position, and when you are outside, damn to your heart's content, but as long as you are part of the institution do not condemn it. If you do that, you are loosening the tendrils that are holding you to the institution, and at the first high wind that comes along, you will be uprooted and blown away, and will probably never know the reason why.
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Post by Stangs13065 on Mar 20, 2018 9:06:40 GMT -6
Be rigid in fundamentals, but flexible in scheme
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Post by coachcb on Mar 20, 2018 9:31:16 GMT -6
This is something that I have had to convey to p-ssed off assistants when I have been a coordinator in the past. They will be upset about how an HC wants something taught, said-HC won't give on it and I always end up telling them "He's the boss and it's name on the program. So, we do things his way." I will say this, in most of those situations, the HC has tried to throw the staff under the bus at some point and have gotten an earful behind closed doors over it. I was the OL coach in a multiple formation, UC IZ/OZ/Power/Counter team one year and the OL wasn't getting enough time to properly rep our zone blocking. The HC/OC expected us to rep all of the necessary skills (including pass pro) within our 10-15 minute block of Indy time. The OL looked like crap, we couldn't run the ball to save our lives, I asked the HC/OC for more Indy time with the OL repeatedly and he shot me down as he wanted to spend half of practice running "Team O". He made an off-hand comment in the office one day about how I "wasn't getting the job done" and I laid into him over it. I told him to take the OL if he thought he could do a better job with the time he was allotting us. Each "situation" will be somewhat different, but as a Head Coach, I was VERY CAREFUL as to whom I hired. When I was an assistant, I was very careful who I wished to work FOR. ALWAYS felt the following was the best advice (for Career "advancement): Loyalty If you work for a man, in heaven's name work for him. If he pays you wages which supply you bread and butter, work for him; speak well of him; stand by him, and stand by the institution he represents. If put to a pinch, an ounce of loyalty is worth a pound of cleverness. If you must vilify, condemn, and eternally disparage, resign your position, and when you are outside, damn to your heart's content, but as long as you are part of the institution do not condemn it. If you do that, you are loosening the tendrils that are holding you to the institution, and at the first high wind that comes along, you will be uprooted and blown away, and will probably never know the reason why. The HC I described above offered me a DC position the next year and I declined and moved on. I will break my back for a good HC. I will break my back for ONE season under a poor one. Before taking any position, I try to get a good feel for the HC and the program. But, often times, that first impression is deceiving. The HC that I was working under had just taken over the program but had a good reputation as a coordinator and as an assistant. He was well-liked within the school and the community but I found him to be insufferable as a boss. And, I wasn't the only one; the entire staff turned over within two years of him taking the position. He's still there as a) they're in a weak division and he breaks into the play-offs every year and b) he knows how to play politics. As an HC, I try to give the ACs as much ownership in the program as I can. But, they dictate that level of ownership by how they act. It looks like I will be taking over a program next year and I am going to give an AC with limited experience the DC position. He's a smart kid who sees the big picture, either knows the fundamentals of every defensive position or is willing to learn them and (most importantly) he communicates well with the rest of the staff. I can trust him to run the defense without having to step in much. This is going to stir up some chit as the DE/TE coach has more experience and I know he considers himself "next in line" for the DC job. He knows his positions well and is good with the kids but he doesn't see the forest-for-the-trees (focuses too much on Xs and Os versus fundamentals) and he can be an overly emotional hot-head who gets tunnel vision. I know I can't trust him to run the defense as we will be duking it out over the defensive game plan every week. He and I already clashed last year when he was the JV DC as he started drawing up blitzes in the dirt during games.
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Post by groundchuck on Mar 20, 2018 9:59:51 GMT -6
You can have a difference of opinion. There is more than one way to do things. If you're an assistant it is your job to do what the head coach wants, and do it so gosh darn well that he looks like a genius. Or if it fails he has nobody to blame but himself. When I was a head coach at a different school I had an assistant describe his job in that way. We could disagree and when we did it was behind closed doors. Then on the field or in front of other assistants we were 100% on the same page.
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