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Post by Defcord on Feb 15, 2018 6:37:28 GMT -6
Where do sauces and seasonings come into play with this diet? Can I have, ketchup, mustard, mayo, bbq sauce, teriyaki sauce, hot sauce, salt, pepper, etc. No, yes, probably?, no, no, yes, yes, yes. It's amazing how many things have added sugar. Most glaze type sauces, like teriyaki and bbq, have a bunch of sugar in them so usually it is advised to avoid them. There may be some low carb or keto options that you could fit into the diet. I don't know about mayo because it creeps me out. Hot sauce and mustard are both 100% good to go. (Buffalo wings are a regular keto bar snack). Also Heinz makes a low carb ketchup that has only 1 g of carbs per serving. It doesn't taste too bad. I gave it up recently because it has sucralose (splenda) in it and I have eliminated as much artificial and processed foods from my diet as possible. But a lot of keto diets don't mind certain artificial sweeteners. www.amazon.com/Heinz-Tomato-Ketchup-Reduced-Sugar/dp/B00IOE034C/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518697890&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=heinz%2Blow%2Bcarb%2Bketchup&th=1
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 15, 2018 6:44:36 GMT -6
Red meat bacon poultry seafood spinach, broccoli, other green veg (cauliflower, brussel sprouts, asparagus, cabbage, etc) avocado full-fat salad dressings eggs cheese everything is cooked in oil and/or butter snack on olives, pork rinds, salami slices.... and thats only when im hungry. Im not NEARLY as hungry as I used to be Only hard alcohol, no beer I think I can get used to this. No potatoes would be really tough for me and no tortillas would me tough for me too. I live in Southern California and you can get tortillas with just about everything and turn it into a burrito lol. The part I really like: "Honey I'm on a diet. So instead of coming home only slightly buzzed on beer. I'll be coming home completely trashed on whiskey!" Also, how about nuts as a snack? Nuts are fine, but some have surprisingly high carbs, and serving sizes are pretty small. Yea, the tortilla thing was tough for me, too. I get low-carb tortillas for home, or I make tacos on Napa cabbage leaves, which works REALLY well
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Post by utchuckd on Feb 15, 2018 7:20:01 GMT -6
Art of Manliness had a recent podcast with John Berardi on IF, worth a listen. Dom D'Agostino and Peter Attia both have good appearances on Tim Ferriss's podcast talking about going keto. rosey65 do you measure blood levels to stay in official ketosis or do you just follow keto guidelines? When I quit being a lazy ass and actually get proactive about what I eat Robb Wolf's stuff is what I follow.
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 15, 2018 7:29:18 GMT -6
Art of Manliness had a recent podcast with John Berardi on IF, worth a listen. Dom D'Agostino and Peter Attia both have good appearances on Tim Ferriss's podcast talking about going keto. rosey65 do you measure blood levels to stay in official ketosis or do you just follow keto guidelines? When I quit being a lazy ass and actually get proactive about what I eat Robb Wolf's stuff is what I follow. I dont measure, I just follow the guidelines and get a physical every year.
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 15, 2018 8:05:33 GMT -6
Weight loss is simple, just like football. What works for one team might not work for another... both have a HUGE number of variables involved.
Running Dive works for you, cuz you run Air Raid and see 4- or 5-man boxes. I cant run Dive, as I see a 9-man box. Same with weight loss. A lot of genetic and lifestyle factors come into play.
"Eat better and move more" is the dietary equivalent of saying "just make your running game better." As an active PE teacher, with a history of drastic weight-loss (which causes looooong-term metabolism issues) I was facing the fact that I couldn't surpass more than 1800 calories a day without gaining weight. However, at that caloric deficit, I couldn't teach without getting some sort of soft-tissue injury, on top of the daily muscle discomfort, tightness and pain. Cutting calories, living for cardio, mixing in moderate strength training wasn't working for me. I'd work out on monday and still feel it on friday. I was getting worse every year.
Now, I eat in the rough neighborhood of 3000 calories a day, I do "cardio" once a week, and it's interval running with my class on monday. I lift heavy weight every day. I feel ZERO muscle pain, fatigue, stiffness. I'd wear a slim-fit XL shirt, except my chest and shoulders are still a 2X. Im 265 pounds, wear the same size belt and pants I wore when I weighted less than 240. I work out all day at school, commute 8 miles each way on my bike (I have epilepsy, had a seizure, cant drive til June) and still make it home with plenty of energy for my 2 kids. I do 5x the activity I did when I was "in shape" and I feel less tired on friday afternoon than I felt on a wednesday when I was "in shape."
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Post by NC1974 on Feb 15, 2018 8:14:05 GMT -6
Thanks for all of the responses, keep them coming. Rosey, did you say your total cholesterol was 97 or 197?
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 15, 2018 9:36:46 GMT -6
Thanks for all of the responses, keep them coming. Rosey, did you say your total cholesterol was 97 or 197? 97
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Post by natenator on Feb 15, 2018 13:44:35 GMT -6
Red meat bacon poultry seafood spinach, broccoli, other green veg (cauliflower, brussel sprouts, asparagus, cabbage, etc) avocado full-fat salad dressings eggs cheese everything is cooked in oil and/or butter snack on olives, pork rinds, salami slices.... and thats only when im hungry. Im not NEARLY as hungry as I used to be Only hard alcohol, no beer Also, this sh!t cannot be healthy for you in the long term. Just eat real food like someone said and workout anyway you’re able You should probably educate yourself. Fat is not the enemy you've been lied to about. In fact it's essential for optimal body function - just like salt. Supplement with proper fiber at each meal and it's perfectly fine long-term.
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Post by natenator on Feb 15, 2018 13:47:20 GMT -6
Red meat bacon poultry seafood spinach, broccoli, other green veg (cauliflower, brussel sprouts, asparagus, cabbage, etc) avocado full-fat salad dressings eggs cheese everything is cooked in oil and/or butter snack on olives, pork rinds, salami slices.... and thats only when im hungry. Im not NEARLY as hungry as I used to be Only hard alcohol, no beer So, no legumes (beans, peas, etc.)? I might be able to do this. Beans and lentils are fine within reason BECAUSE they don't illicit a very big insulin response and because their fiber content lower net carbs.
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Post by CS on Feb 15, 2018 19:24:15 GMT -6
Also, this sh!t cannot be healthy for you in the long term. Just eat real food like someone said and workout anyway you’re able You should probably educate yourself. Fat is not the enemy you've been lied to about. In fact it's essential for optimal body function - just like salt. Supplement with proper fiber at each meal and it's perfectly fine long-term. I explained further down that the processed food is what I thought and know are bad for you. You can tell me what you want about Keto diets but you can’t say cooking with butter and eating pork rinds is healthy. Again I do realize that butter in moderation isn’t all that terrible. It also involves eating lots of processed meats which have been proven to cause cancer. Sooooooooooo yeah, I’m not a dietician but that’s pretty bad.
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Post by Defcord on Feb 15, 2018 20:32:47 GMT -6
You should probably educate yourself. Fat is not the enemy you've been lied to about. In fact it's essential for optimal body function - just like salt. Supplement with proper fiber at each meal and it's perfectly fine long-term. I explained further down that the processed food is what I thought and know are bad for you. You can tell me what you want about Keto diets but you can’t say cooking with butter and eating pork rinds is healthy. Again I do realize that butter in moderation isn’t all that terrible. It also involves eating lots of processed meats which have been proven to cause cancer. Sooooooooooo yeah, I’m not a dietician but that’s pretty bad. I am not saying the science can’t change (especially since if you look at this article and see the 30 year difference between Time covers) but current science says that high fat diets, including butter have significant health benefits. I am not necessarily all in on a full time ketogenic diet but a lot of science is showing that lowering carbs and eating fat is improving health. www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fat-your-friendI am 100% with you on the processed food part.
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Post by CS on Feb 16, 2018 5:10:39 GMT -6
I explained further down that the processed food is what I thought and know are bad for you. You can tell me what you want about Keto diets but you can’t say cooking with butter and eating pork rinds is healthy. Again I do realize that butter in moderation isn’t all that terrible. It also involves eating lots of processed meats which have been proven to cause cancer. Sooooooooooo yeah, I’m not a dietician but that’s pretty bad. I am not saying the science can’t change (especially since if you look at this article and see the 30 year difference between Time covers) but current science says that high fat diets, including butter have significant health benefits. I am not necessarily all in on a full time ketogenic diet but a lot of science is showing that lowering carbs and eating fat is improving health. www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fat-your-friendI am 100% with you on the processed food part. I’ve read that article and numerous other ones. Remember I said I researched the diet because a coach on staff was telling me about it one day. And I’m not sitting here saying fat is the enemy but butter isn’t healthy if you’re eating it all the time. In moderation it has benefits. My biggest concern with this diet is the fact that it passes off harmful foods as “ok” because studies have shown that saturated fats aren’t as bad as we once believed. The coach on staff told our kids that bacon is good for you...it’s not. To clarify, I realize that eating these things every now and then is as dangerous as smoking a cigarette once a month. It’s not going to kill you today. But if you tell the average person they can eat all this sh!t food because it’s low in carbs and it’s healthy they’re going to.
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Post by natenator on Feb 16, 2018 6:21:12 GMT -6
I am not saying the science can’t change (especially since if you look at this article and see the 30 year difference between Time covers) but current science says that high fat diets, including butter have significant health benefits. I am not necessarily all in on a full time ketogenic diet but a lot of science is showing that lowering carbs and eating fat is improving health. www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fat-your-friendI am 100% with you on the processed food part. I’ve read that article and numerous other ones. Remember I said I researched the diet because a coach on staff was telling me about it one day. And I’m not sitting here saying fat is the enemy but butter isn’t healthy if you’re eating it all the time. In moderation it has benefits. My biggest concern with this diet is the fact that it passes off harmful foods as “ok” because studies have shown that saturated fats aren’t as bad as we once believed. The coach on staff told our kids that bacon is good for you...it’s not. To clarify, I realize that eating these things every now and then is as dangerous as smoking a cigarette once a month. It’s not going to kill you today. But if you tell the average person they can eat all this sh!t food because it’s low in carbs and it’s healthy they’re going to. You see bacon or cheese on that list and have a snap reaction without understanding the configuration of the actual diet. Tell me what is bad about this meal plan: Meal #1: 4 whole omega 3 eggs 8 or 1 cup egg whites Meal #2: 50 gram (2 scoops) whey isolate shake 2 TBSB cold-milled ground flax 1/2 TBSB natural almond or cashew butter Meal #3: 6oz cooked chicken or white fish 1/2 TBSP olive or coconut oil 1-2 cups steamed broccoli, Brussel sprouts, or green beans Meal #4: 50 gram (2 scoops) whey isolate shake 2 TBSB cold-milled ground flax 1/2 TBSB natural almond or cashew butter Meal #5: 6oz cooked lean steak, ground beef, or salmon Large green leafy salad with 1 TBSP omega 3 oil and lemon vignette What on this is unhealthy? Answer: Absolutely nothing. Add a bit of bacon to meal #1 or to the salad with meal #5 Every now and again and it's still just as healthy. Keto done right will leave a person with less inflammation, more energy, better body composition, and improved bloodwork long-term. Negatives: It's difficult to stick for most people without strict planning and very minimal eating out (tough to find keto friendly options) and the constipation that can occur even with there being a lot of fiber in this diet.
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Post by CS on Feb 16, 2018 6:57:26 GMT -6
I’ve read that article and numerous other ones. Remember I said I researched the diet because a coach on staff was telling me about it one day. And I’m not sitting here saying fat is the enemy but butter isn’t healthy if you’re eating it all the time. In moderation it has benefits. My biggest concern with this diet is the fact that it passes off harmful foods as “ok” because studies have shown that saturated fats aren’t as bad as we once believed. The coach on staff told our kids that bacon is good for you...it’s not. To clarify, I realize that eating these things every now and then is as dangerous as smoking a cigarette once a month. It’s not going to kill you today. But if you tell the average person they can eat all this sh!t food because it’s low in carbs and it’s healthy they’re going to. You see bacon or cheese on that list and have a snap reaction without understanding the configuration of the actual diet. Tell me what is bad about this meal plan: Meal #1: 4 whole omega 3 eggs 8 or 1 cup egg whites Meal #2: 50 gram (2 scoops) whey isolate shake 2 TBSB cold-milled ground flax 1/2 TBSB natural almond or cashew butter Meal #3: 6oz cooked chicken or white fish 1/2 TBSP olive or coconut oil 1-2 cups steamed broccoli, Brussel sprouts, or green beans Meal #4: 50 gram (2 scoops) whey isolate shake 2 TBSB cold-milled ground flax 1/2 TBSB natural almond or cashew butter Meal #5: 6oz cooked lean steak, ground beef, or salmon Large green leafy salad with 1 TBSP omega 3 oil and lemon vignette What on this is unhealthy? Answer: Absolutely nothing. Add a bit of bacon to meal #1 or to the salad with meal #5 Every now and again and it's still just as healthy. Keto done right will leave a person with less inflammation, more energy, better body composition, and improved bloodwork long-term. Negatives: It's difficult to stick for most people without strict planning and very minimal eating out (tough to find keto friendly options) and the constipation that can occur even with there being a lot of fiber in this diet. You’re not understanding my argument. That meal plan is perfectly fine. However, to an average person or kid that is trying to eat “healthier” and you say that cooking with butter and being able to eat processed foods as long as they are low carb is ok what do you think they will do? Hell! There were 2 responses after roseys that proves my point. People see they can cook with butter and put chz and bacon on everything. What you planned out in your post is a lot like how I eat now if you added fruit. I have no inflammation or high blood pressure. I also noticed you had lean meats and no processed foods in your meal plan. I have also said repeatedly that in moderation this stuff isn’t going to kill you, but the average American that is wanting to lose weight the easy way and you tell them to eat all the bacon you want and cook it with butter, is going to do just that. Anyway, I’m done with this. Eat a well balanced meal plan with plenty of greens and fruit. Have red meat,processed meats and cheese sparingly and exercise regularly and you should be fine. Edit: the steak in your final meal isn’t the best. If you eat it every now and then it’s fine but red meat has been linked to colon cancer for decades
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Post by Defcord on Feb 16, 2018 6:58:59 GMT -6
I am not saying the science can’t change (especially since if you look at this article and see the 30 year difference between Time covers) but current science says that high fat diets, including butter have significant health benefits. I am not necessarily all in on a full time ketogenic diet but a lot of science is showing that lowering carbs and eating fat is improving health. www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fat-your-friendI am 100% with you on the processed food part. I’ve read that article and numerous other ones. Remember I said I researched the diet because a coach on staff was telling me about it one day. And I’m not sitting here saying fat is the enemy but butter isn’t healthy if you’re eating it all the time. In moderation it has benefits. My biggest concern with this diet is the fact that it passes off harmful foods as “ok” because studies have shown that saturated fats aren’t as bad as we once believed. The coach on staff told our kids that bacon is good for you...it’s not. To clarify, I realize that eating these things every now and then is as dangerous as smoking a cigarette once a month. It’s not going to kill you today. But if you tell the average person they can eat all this sh!t food because it’s low in carbs and it’s healthy they’re going to. I don’t think the average person is not going to over eat bacon or other meats and low carb but whole or unprocessed foods. These foods are highly satiable and people tend to eat less and generally over eat these high fat foods than high carb alternatives. That said I am not all in on keto because I do think there are clean carbs that have the same qualities of satiability that people tend to not over eat like baked potatoes. While we agree on drastically cutting processed foods and eating some foods, we probably just aren’t ever going to get on the same page on the benefits of switching to high fat vs high carb diets. I am no expert or Adonis so it’s probably not going to kill anyone to disagree though.
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Post by CS on Feb 16, 2018 7:11:10 GMT -6
I’ve read that article and numerous other ones. Remember I said I researched the diet because a coach on staff was telling me about it one day. And I’m not sitting here saying fat is the enemy but butter isn’t healthy if you’re eating it all the time. In moderation it has benefits. My biggest concern with this diet is the fact that it passes off harmful foods as “ok” because studies have shown that saturated fats aren’t as bad as we once believed. The coach on staff told our kids that bacon is good for you...it’s not. To clarify, I realize that eating these things every now and then is as dangerous as smoking a cigarette once a month. It’s not going to kill you today. But if you tell the average person they can eat all this sh!t food because it’s low in carbs and it’s healthy they’re going to. I don’t think the average person is not going to over eat bacon or other meats and low carb but whole or unprocessed foods. These foods are highly satiable and people tend to eat less and generally over eat these high fat foods than high carb alternatives. That said I am not all in on keto because I do think there are clean carbs that have the same qualities of satiability that people tend to not over eat like baked potatoes. While we agree on drastically cutting processed foods and eating some foods, we probably just aren’t ever going to get on the same page on the benefits of switching to high fat vs high carb diets. I am no expert or Adonis so it’s probably not going to kill anyone to disagree though. You don’t understand I’m an advocate of not taking extreme measures to lose weight like cutting out any form of macro. If your over indulging in carbs I’m not for that either. I had a buddy do nothing but drink protein shakes for 2 weeks to cut fat....is that healthy? P.s. your response came after I had decided to leave this thread and I read it...now I’m back in you sob 😂
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Post by Defcord on Feb 16, 2018 7:37:22 GMT -6
I don’t think the average person is not going to over eat bacon or other meats and low carb but whole or unprocessed foods. These foods are highly satiable and people tend to eat less and generally over eat these high fat foods than high carb alternatives. That said I am not all in on keto because I do think there are clean carbs that have the same qualities of satiability that people tend to not over eat like baked potatoes. While we agree on drastically cutting processed foods and eating some foods, we probably just aren’t ever going to get on the same page on the benefits of switching to high fat vs high carb diets. I am no expert or Adonis so it’s probably not going to kill anyone to disagree though. You don’t understand I’m an advocate of not taking extreme measures to lose weight like cutting out any form of macro. If your over indulging in carbs I’m not for that either. I had a buddy do nothing but drink protein shakes for 2 weeks to cut fat....is that healthy? P.s. your response came after I had decided to leave this thread and I read it...now I’m back in you sob 😂 “Just when I thought I was out, they bring me back in!” I am too young to be referencing Godfather movies so forgive me if I miss quoted. For full disclosure I foresee a point in life when I go all in on all macros, I want to dip bacon in syrup made of high fructose, and wrap it in a enriched flour pancake as a breakfast appetizer chased with a few screwdrivers. Food is fun, especially the shittty stuff. Those days are decades away and I have bad luck so I will probably die on the way to a cycling class eating hard boiled eggs.
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Post by coachjo14 on Feb 16, 2018 23:00:00 GMT -6
rosey65 so what kinds of stuff do you eat in that diet? Just curious. Help a newb out Red meat bacon poultry seafood spinach, broccoli, other green veg (cauliflower, brussel sprouts, asparagus, cabbage, etc) avocado full-fat salad dressings eggs cheese everything is cooked in oil and/or butter snack on olives, pork rinds, salami slices.... and thats only when im hungry. Im not NEARLY as hungry as I used to be Only hard alcohol, no beer Sooooooooo..... Yea I'm gonna try to get in on this I think....
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 20, 2018 11:55:00 GMT -6
Red meat bacon poultry seafood spinach, broccoli, other green veg (cauliflower, brussel sprouts, asparagus, cabbage, etc) avocado full-fat salad dressings eggs cheese everything is cooked in oil and/or butter snack on olives, pork rinds, salami slices.... and thats only when im hungry. Im not NEARLY as hungry as I used to be Only hard alcohol, no beer Sooooooooo..... Yea I'm gonna try to get in on this I think.... It takes a bit of planning, as it is a change in shopping/cooking/prepping/planning about food. It isn't nearly as difficult as it sounds, but some people have a harder time with transitioning mindsets. I eat my favorite foods, I just look for ways to substitute out the carbs...mostly breads and pastas. -sandwiches can easily turn into a salad or omelet (reuben, ham & cheese, philly cheese, etc) -take away tortillas, beans and rice for mexican food. Meat, guac, sour cream, all on a bed of greens -shaved asparagus and zucchini make decent pasta subs, as well as some tofu products in the produce section of stores -the massive onslaught of riced veggies (mostly cauliflower) in the freezer section has really made stir-fry's an easy addition As people have mentioned previously, this isn't an excuse to eat a bunch of chit under the guise of "healthy eating." However, the parameters for said "healthy eating" aren't necessarily what we've all assumed them to be. All things in moderation, of course, but the scales used to measure moderation have been re-calibrated. I am an Exercise Science major and a Health teacher. I have more than a working knowledge of nutrition. This flies in the face of everything I've taught and been taught. However, the more I live this lifestyle, the more benefits I see FOR ME. It isn't something that will necessarily work for everyone, and there are a multitude of ways to adapt this for you and your lifestyle. Much like football, weight loss is easy. But that doesn't mean what works needs to be copied exactly in order for it to work for you. Keep carbs at 30g a day, the rest is all you.......
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Post by ogre5530 on Feb 20, 2018 13:19:36 GMT -6
I lost 20 lbs last summer doing Keto!! I went back to Thursday team dinner and that derailed me a bit during the season. I'm back at it again and have dropped 14 since January!! I've always struggled with my weight loss plans before, but Keto has been by far the most successful thing I've ever done.
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Post by coachklee on Feb 20, 2018 17:10:39 GMT -6
I’ve read that article and numerous other ones. Remember I said I researched the diet because a coach on staff was telling me about it one day. And I’m not sitting here saying fat is the enemy but butter isn’t healthy if you’re eating it all the time. In moderation it has benefits. My biggest concern with this diet is the fact that it passes off harmful foods as “ok” because studies have shown that saturated fats aren’t as bad as we once believed. The coach on staff told our kids that bacon is good for you...it’s not. To clarify, I realize that eating these things every now and then is as dangerous as smoking a cigarette once a month. It’s not going to kill you today. But if you tell the average person they can eat all this sh!t food because it’s low in carbs and it’s healthy they’re going to. You see bacon or cheese on that list and have a snap reaction without understanding the configuration of the actual diet. Tell me what is bad about this meal plan: Meal #1: 4 whole omega 3 eggs 8 or 1 cup egg whites Meal #2: 50 gram (2 scoops) whey isolate shake 2 TBSB cold-milled ground flax 1/2 TBSB natural almond or cashew butter Meal #3: 6oz cooked chicken or white fish 1/2 TBSP olive or coconut oil 1-2 cups steamed broccoli, Brussel sprouts, or green beans Meal #4: 50 gram (2 scoops) whey isolate shake 2 TBSB cold-milled ground flax 1/2 TBSB natural almond or cashew butter Meal #5: 6oz cooked lean steak, ground beef, or salmon Large green leafy salad with 1 TBSP omega 3 oil and lemon vignette What on this is unhealthy? Answer: Absolutely nothing. Add a bit of bacon to meal #1 or to the salad with meal #5 Every now and again and it's still just as healthy. Keto done right will leave a person with less inflammation, more energy, better body composition, and improved bloodwork long-term. Negatives: It's difficult to stick for most people without strict planning and very minimal eating out (tough to find keto friendly options) and the constipation that can occur even with there being a lot of fiber in this diet. Aside from the absence of fruit that is similar to my current diet through weight watchers that I started on January 2nd & has helped me drop 20 pounds so far this year.
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Post by utchuckd on Feb 23, 2018 6:32:59 GMT -6
One highly over-looked thing is getting enough sleep. You can cover a LOT of bad choices getting plenty of good sleep. Last year I started making a concerted effort to get 7+ hours a night, in near total darkness. I've never been a morning person, but I pop right awake now ready to go. Shawn Stevenson has some good material on sleep (he's a little touchy-feely for me, but that's his schtick).
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Post by **** on Feb 23, 2018 6:42:57 GMT -6
Everything in moderation, including moderation.
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Post by newt21 on Feb 23, 2018 7:38:07 GMT -6
One highly over-looked thing is getting enough sleep. You can cover a LOT of bad choices getting plenty of good sleep. Last year I started making a concerted effort to get 7+ hours a night, in near total darkness. I've never been a morning person, but I pop right awake now ready to go. Shawn Stevenson has some good material on sleep (he's a little touchy-feely for me, but that's his schtick). Tell that to my toddler....
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 23, 2018 11:18:12 GMT -6
One highly over-looked thing is getting enough sleep. You can cover a LOT of bad choices getting plenty of good sleep. Last year I started making a concerted effort to get 7+ hours a night, in near total darkness. I've never been a morning person, but I pop right awake now ready to go. Shawn Stevenson has some good material on sleep (he's a little touchy-feely for me, but that's his schtick). Tell that to my toddler.... if he's teething, rub a little whiskey on his gums. or you can do like my wife and make him a benadryl smoothie
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