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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 13:46:13 GMT -6
Hypothetically speaking:
You are the coordinator for a specific unit (offense, defense or special teams) that is under performing on the field due to various factors (mental errors, poor execution or players simply not knowing what they should be doing on a given play). All of these factors combined are resulting in poor production, poor field position, giving up scores, etc.
When you are on the sideline speaking to that unit as a whole, how do you address these issues with your players? What do you focus on and what methods do you use to motivate them?
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Post by somecoach on Oct 16, 2017 16:38:27 GMT -6
First thing as a play caller I look for is to simplify things.
Sometimes we get too creative and give these kids too much to do in a given night.
Next I look at what is specifically going wrong. Is it a schematic adjustments? i.e. is the defense stunting past the run blocking, should a guy come off the double team to pick up a blitzer?
As for addressing the kids, imo berating them just makes them shut down. They know they !@#$ed up getting in their face and yelling about it isn't coaching.
I like to keep positive and just fix what went wrong.
As for motivation, that just comes down to the situation/ motivation of the week.
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Post by blb on Oct 16, 2017 17:01:47 GMT -6
Hypothetically speaking: You are the coordinator for a specific unit (offense, defense or special teams) that is under performing on the field due to various factors (mental errors, poor execution or players simply not knowing what they should be doing on a given play). All of these factors combined are resulting in poor production, poor field position, giving up scores, etc. When you are on the sideline speaking to that unit as a whole, how do you address these issues with your players? What do you focus on and what methods do you use to motivate them?
Motivation comes from coaching kids in drills so they believe they're getting better fundamentally and technique-wise.
Then you have to prepare them during the week for what they're going to see from other team, practicing situations, and what they have to do to be successful (assignments, keys-responsibilities, etc.), so they have confidence.
If you are having all those issues you cited - the unit (and perhaps team) is poorly prepared to play the game.
On the sideline during the contest is too late.
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Post by 54695469 on Oct 16, 2017 21:45:02 GMT -6
Hypothetically speaking: You are the coordinator for a specific unit (offense, defense or special teams) that is under performing on the field due to various factors (mental errors, poor execution or players simply not knowing what they should be doing on a given play). All of these factors combined are resulting in poor production, poor field position, giving up scores, etc. When you are on the sideline speaking to that unit as a whole, how do you address these issues with your players? What do you focus on and what methods do you use to motivate them?
Motivation comes from coaching kids in drills so they believe they're getting better fundamentally and technique-wise.
Then you have to prepare them during the week for what they're going to see from other team, practicing situations, and what they have to do to be successful (assignments, keys-responsibilities, etc.), so they have confidence.
If you are having all those issues you cited - the unit (and perhaps team) is poorly prepared to play the game.
On the sideline during the contest is too late.
Exactly! Way too late! You should have completely changed the culture of your program over the course of the previous off-season. Truly successful coaches spend the entire off-season reading books and replying to forums about ways to do this. If you did not change the culture of your program last off-season this could be the reason for your struggles. Be sure to stay on top of the coming off-season's fads and buzzwords so that you don't have a similar issue next year! |
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Post by newhope on Oct 17, 2017 8:06:45 GMT -6
If all those things are going on, motivation isn't your problem. You can say anything you want, but if they don't know what they're doing, it ain't going to help.
Coach 'em up in practice rather than worrying about what to say to them on the sidelines.
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Post by gators41 on Oct 17, 2017 8:38:13 GMT -6
Hypothetically speaking: You are the coordinator for a specific unit (offense, defense or special teams) that is under performing on the field due to various factors (mental errors, poor execution or players simply not knowing what they should be doing on a given play). All of these factors combined are resulting in poor production, poor field position, giving up scores, etc. When you are on the sideline speaking to that unit as a whole, how do you address these issues with your players? What do you focus on and what methods do you use to motivate them? I heard it described like this... They will do it because they 1. Fear you or 2. Respect you Very simple, very good. |
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Post by coachcb on Oct 17, 2017 8:56:44 GMT -6
blb: "On the sideline during the contest is too late." This is dead-on. You can make minor game time adjustments but anything major (technique..) needs to be addressed during the week. For example, this last week, our DL was struggling against certain blocks because of their alignment. We made simple adjustments: moved the NT to a 1 tech (versus a shade on the center) and the DT from a 3 tech to a 4i tech. These easy, early adjustments allowed them to be more successful as there was no change in the skills that were being taught. But, on the flip side, the offense aligned in this exotic formation: .....Y..G..C..G..T..T ...Z...............H..X ...........Q...F We hadn't seen it before and we did our best to make a simple adjustment to it but over coverage rules and front didn't mesh well and we ended up out-leveraged on one side of the formation or the other. Now, I could have pulled the kids aside in a time out, tossed out a better solution but it would have been more complicated and strayed away from what we had repped all year. We would have been better off on the chalk board but gotten smacked around worse because we hadn't practices the necessary skills.
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 17, 2017 10:01:24 GMT -6
Motivation is fear, respect, or love.
Execution is knowing what to do and how to do it.
Two different things. Both can lead to poor/under performance.
So for execution we are going to go back and zero in on what we can control.
Alignment
Assignment
Fundamentals.
Penalty free plays.
This has to be done at practice daily.
In terms of something we did on offense to give an object measure try this: Chart the following:
Fumble/dropped passes
Penalties
Sacks (any neg play)
Turnovers
We found if we could keep that number under 12% of the total snaps for the day (game day too) we performed well on O.
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Post by pistola on Oct 17, 2017 10:12:47 GMT -6
Motivation comes from coaching kids in drills so they believe they're getting better fundamentally and technique-wise.
Then you have to prepare them during the week for what they're going to see from other team, practicing situations, and what they have to do to be successful (assignments, keys-responsibilities, etc.), so they have confidence.
If you are having all those issues you cited - the unit (and perhaps team) is poorly prepared to play the game.
On the sideline during the contest is too late.
Exactly! Way too late! You should have completely changed the culture of your program over the course of the previous off-season. Truly successful coaches spend the entire off-season reading books and replying to forums about ways to do this. If you did not change the culture of your program last off-season this could be the reason for your struggles. Be sure to stay on top of the coming off-season's fads and buzzwords so that you don't have a similar issue next year! why are you even on here? what are you getting out of this message board? |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 17, 2017 10:30:02 GMT -6
Exactly! Way too late! You should have completely changed the culture of your program over the course of the previous off-season. Truly successful coaches spend the entire off-season reading books and replying to forums about ways to do this. If you did not change the culture of your program last off-season this could be the reason for your struggles. Be sure to stay on top of the coming off-season's fads and buzzwords so that you don't have a similar issue next year! why are you even on here? what are you getting out of this message board? He is being sarcastic and making fun of culture changing coaches. I thought it was funny. |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 17, 2017 10:33:15 GMT -6
Motivation is fear, respect, or love. Execution is knowing what to do and how to do it. Two different things. Both can lead to poor/under performance. So for execution we are going to go back and zero in on what we can control. Alignment Assignment Fundamentals. Penalty free plays. This has to be done at practice daily. In terms of something we did on offense to give an object measure try this: Chart the following: Fumble/dropped passes Penalties Sacks (any neg play) Turnovers We found if we could keep that number under 12% of the total snaps for the day (game day too) we performed well on O. I was just about to reply to this thread, "forget motivation and execute", but you beat me to it. Motivation is important. But the most fired up ball player who continually messes up isn't beating the player who does it right. |
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Post by pistola on Oct 17, 2017 10:36:59 GMT -6
why are you even on here? what are you getting out of this message board? He is being sarcastic and making fun of culture changing coaches. I thought it was funny. i understand what he is doing.. its what he does over and over and over and over.. he might have it saved in his drafts actually back to the OP best case scenario you can identify what the actual problem is. IF its something I can fix within the scheme then make the adjustment. but like stated there is only so much you can change before you get worse from it If the kids are flat/mentally checked out.. then it really is team to team.. my kids will respond differently to things than yours one year the kids respond to a little chewing, the next they might shut down |
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Post by fantom on Oct 17, 2017 10:44:01 GMT -6
why are you even on here? what are you getting out of this message board? He is being sarcastic and making fun of culture changing coaches. I thought it was funny. Might have been funnier if, at some point, he'd post about something else. |
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Post by Coach Vint on Oct 17, 2017 11:06:54 GMT -6
What is your process after a series? After every series we bring our guys to the benches arranged in a V. Skill on one bench, line on the other. Starters sitting, backups standing behind their position. We talk about what do you see. What is causing you problems, and how do we correct it. When things aren't going well we are obviously searching for play calling solutions, but with our kids we are talking to them about fixing mistakes. What do we need to tell them to perform at our best level?
Last week we played awful up front in the first quarter. Our kids were going through the motions. We weren't coming off the ball and were getting out-efforted. On the sideline we talked about at technical issues with our footwork and not getting off the ball. We challenged them to raise their level of play. They did. At halftime we reiterated that we were capable of playing better. We drew up their fronts, and showed them how we made mistakes and what we had to do to fix them. When you win 42-0 and feel like you lost, you know you have some things to fix during the week.
Our mentality is that we can score on any play against anybody. We focus on being our best, and constantly striving to find out how good we can be. The worst feeling is when you are overmatched physically to the point that you can't gain a dang yard. I have been there.
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 17, 2017 12:16:08 GMT -6
Our mentality is that we can score on any play against anybody. We focus on being our best, and constantly striving to find out how good we can be. The worst feeling is when you are overmatched physically to the point that you can't gain a dang yard. I have been there. Yeah that's the worst, the flip side defensively is when you are playing against a bunch of guys you just can't tackle...you feel like an idiot saying "guys we gotta tackle better" over and over....but there's really not much else to say |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 17, 2017 12:35:03 GMT -6
Our mentality is that we can score on any play against anybody. We focus on being our best, and constantly striving to find out how good we can be. The worst feeling is when you are overmatched physically to the point that you can't gain a dang yard. I have been there. Yeah that's the worst, the flip side defensively is when you are playing against a bunch of guys you just can't tackle...you feel like an idiot saying "guys we gotta tackle better" over and over....but there's really not much else to say Run fits. Fit the run better. I don't really expect our best tackler to just one on one tackle good rb's in open spaces and not give up some yards. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 14:55:21 GMT -6
What is your process after a series? After every series we bring our guys to the benches arranged in a V. Skill on one bench, line on the other. Starters sitting, backups standing behind their position. We talk about what do you see. What is causing you problems, and how do we correct it. When things aren't going well we are obviously searching for play calling solutions, but with our kids we are talking to them about fixing mistakes. What do we need to tell them to perform at our best level? Last week we played awful up front in the first quarter. Our kids were going through the motions. We weren't coming off the ball and were getting out-efforted. On the sideline we talked about at technical issues with our footwork and not getting off the ball. We challenged them to raise their level of play. They did. At halftime we reiterated that we were capable of playing better. We drew up their fronts, and showed them how we made mistakes and what we had to do to fix them. When you win 42-0 and feel like you lost, you know you have some things to fix during the week. Our mentality is that we can score on any play against anybody. We focus on being our best, and constantly striving to find out how good we can be. The worst feeling is when you are overmatched physically to the point that you can't gain a dang yard. I have been there. Our process after each series is exactly as you describe above. Everyone together going through fronts, alignment of the player opposite you and any personnel changes you're seeing. After that they break off on to their positional coaches for any position specific adjustments that need to be made. We run our base plays well enough and can execute them well on a consistent basis for the most part. Seems we have some players who are new this year that don't really understand the playbook well enough so that's something we need to address in practice. |
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