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Post by coachstepp on Oct 10, 2017 11:08:23 GMT -6
That has actually been my approach, for the most part. We have had weeks where the blocking schemes/passing game has been consistent, but those have not been consecutive weeks. For instance, we spent most of the summer working zone blocking, with wide zone being our base run play. After our opening scrimmage (which took place right after camp), it was not as successful as he thought it should be, so we went to an air raid-type scheme, but instead of using zone blocking, we went to more of BOB scheme with iso run plays. It's been back-and-forth throughout the year, unfortunately. It's difficult for the players to improve because the scheme/technique fluctuates so much. Yeah I think I am with BLB on this one it doesn't sound like you are the OC, are you calling the plays on Friday nights? As an assistant all you can do is support and provide good sound advice when asked, but I have been in circumstances like that and it sucks when you are in it and all you can think about is how much it sucks, but when you get the chance to design the game plan and call the plays you will look back on these times and be glad you went through it. Because we have all been there we start watching film of a team and we see some other school run a cool play against our next opponent and man it looks good and it is awesome, so we draw it up on the board, look at it for a while, tag it in film, and think about putting that play in and maybe just installing more of their stuff into what we do and eventually after a couple of weeks of that we are a completely different offense and not better for it. So it's good to have these experiences and sometimes it's better than if you were at a perennial power just destroying teams and thinking that you can walk on water. I am certainly not the OC, and that is okay. I do not need that title. There have been games where he wants me to call plays, and there have been games that he has went to the other end of the sideline and told me what to call. Other times, he calls the plays. I have learned a lot about myself this season, and I'm looking at the experience as a positive one. He's a fantastic guy. We just simply have a difference in philosophy. As I do every season, I am going to evaluate the situation at season's end and weight my options. |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 10, 2017 11:12:32 GMT -6
Is there a way to maximize the carryover/consistency within his "do something new each week" philosophy, i.e., can you keep the same or similar blocking schemes but present them in different ways? If he's changing the passing game around can you get a few "core' concepts you can run from different looks/approaches, or at least group them into stretches or reads (flood read, curl/flat read, etc) so your QB can have a consistent picture even if the plays are changing? At minimum, can you find ways to keep the *techniques* consistent? The best "multiple" offenses I know look very different week to week but they are very consistent with the techniques they teach and use. Without more specifics it's hard to be much more help, but that may be a way to approach it and to even find some common ground with your HC. That has actually been my approach, for the most part. We have had weeks where the blocking schemes/passing game has been consistent, but those have not been consecutive weeks. For instance, we spent most of the summer working zone blocking, with wide zone being our base run play. After our opening scrimmage (which took place right after camp), it was not as successful as he thought it should be, so we went to an air raid-type scheme, but instead of using zone blocking, we went to more of BOB scheme with iso run plays. It's been back-and-forth throughout the year, unfortunately. It's difficult for the players to improve because the scheme/technique fluctuates so much. That is terrible. A tweak is fine. Deleting plays is fine. Adding a play or so is fine. Ditching what you do after one super early scrimmage is terrible. |
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Post by chi5hi on Oct 11, 2017 6:49:06 GMT -6
This past offseason I had a conversation with our Head Coach about being more involved in the offensive game planning. After several meetings, he decided to promote me to offensive coordinator, as he said it would take pressure off of him and free him up to focus on the organizational aspect of the program. We worked together on a system that we felt was best for our personnel, and we moved forward with it through the summer. We are now in our seventh week of the season, and we have basically run a different offense every game since our scrimmage eight weeks ago. My philosophy is to stick with the system, work the skills needed to be successful, and fine-tune/build the offense as we go. His philosophy is to run a scheme that appears to be a good counter to the defense we will see that week. He also takes this approach on the defensive side of the ball. We run a different defensive scheme each week, it seems. Has anyone else worked under a head coach with this philosophy before? Personally, I feel it stunts our growth, both as a team and individually. Yesterday, a player came up to me and said, "Coach, what offense are we running this week?" It really made my skin crawl. Thoughts? I'm curious. What offense did your team start the season? What different offenses did you run from week to week? |
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Post by coachstepp on Oct 11, 2017 7:07:15 GMT -6
This past offseason I had a conversation with our Head Coach about being more involved in the offensive game planning. After several meetings, he decided to promote me to offensive coordinator, as he said it would take pressure off of him and free him up to focus on the organizational aspect of the program. We worked together on a system that we felt was best for our personnel, and we moved forward with it through the summer. We are now in our seventh week of the season, and we have basically run a different offense every game since our scrimmage eight weeks ago. My philosophy is to stick with the system, work the skills needed to be successful, and fine-tune/build the offense as we go. His philosophy is to run a scheme that appears to be a good counter to the defense we will see that week. He also takes this approach on the defensive side of the ball. We run a different defensive scheme each week, it seems. Has anyone else worked under a head coach with this philosophy before? Personally, I feel it stunts our growth, both as a team and individually. Yesterday, a player came up to me and said, "Coach, what offense are we running this week?" It really made my skin crawl. Thoughts? I'm curious. What offense did your team start the season? What different offenses did you run from week to week? We started as a zone team, running wide zone with keepers off of that, out of multiple formations. We practiced that for six weeks from July through August. We did not play well in our first scrimmage of the year, and he made the switch to an air raid style offense that consisted of mostly man blocking schemes. I should add that the seven days prior to the scrimmage, we had 11 practices and an intrasquad scrimmage - 9 practices at mini-camp, 1 intrasquad scrimmage, and two full practices. The kids were dead! We stuck with the air raid offense for two games. Then we went to a single-wing type offense (which I agreed was much better than the air raid) because he realized we weren't very good in the passing game. We stuck with this for 1/2 of a game and went back to a spread offense, with gap-scheme runs. Since then, we have bounced back-and-forth from air raid, single wing, and spread w/ gap schemes. In my opinion, if we would have stuck with the offense we had practiced all summer, we would be much better on offense right now. Again, we are not very talented, so I understand why he is trying to give us a scheme advantage. That is in direct opposition with my philosophy, which is why I said it is simply a philosophical disagreement. I do not want to come off like I hate the guy or am being insubordinate. He's a good guy. I just disagree with him. Here was the kicker for me - I implemented the original offense - zone blocking scheme with PAP, with power/counter mixed in, along with some quick game concepts. We ran it all summer. We were getting better at it, but laid an egg during our scrimmage. After that game, he admitted to me that he had not taken the time to learn the zone offense, and he was not comfortable running it, so he wanted to go back to something he knew well. My response was that it was easier for one person (him) to learn the zone offense than 80 people (players/coaches) to learn a different system. He agreed, but made the change anyway. It's certainly his right (and job) to make those decisions. Again, I just disagreed.  |
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Post by coachstepp on Oct 11, 2017 7:10:03 GMT -6
chi5hi I'll add this: This week we play the best team on our schedule. Vegas would probably make them a 40+ point favorite. They're phenomenal. He texted me on Saturday and said he wanted to run quads the entire game and just throw screens and run the QB. Fortunately, he decided to go with our single wing stuff and try to chew the clock, and I completely agreed! 
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Post by blb on Oct 11, 2017 7:26:32 GMT -6
coachsteppAfter reading all your posts this thread, the topic is an oxymoron - your HC HAS no Philosophy of Offense. It is good you are being supportive despite your philosophical differences. I just don't see any chance of success in your situation.
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Post by coachstepp on Oct 11, 2017 8:35:46 GMT -6
coachstepp After reading all your posts this thread, the topic is an oxymoron - your HC HAS no Philosophy of Offense. It is good you are being supportive despite your philosophical differences. I just don't see any chance of success in your situation. Unfortunately, I believe you are correct. |
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