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Post by option1st on Oct 2, 2017 7:03:01 GMT -6
We gave up 69 points in the first half last week.....gulp. They put their 2's in halfway through the second and we couldn't stop them. That's all they could do. Second half they come out with their 3's and final score 76 - 28.
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Post by blb on Oct 4, 2017 5:17:59 GMT -6
Where do you guys draw the line of "running up the score" and "playing to win? I have posted this more than once before so pardon the redundancy.
We were going to play our "game deciders" until the game was decided - which to me meant one team was up three scores in 4th Quarter or "Mercy Rule" (running clock) was in effect.
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 4, 2017 13:46:20 GMT -6
We dropped 76 on a playoff opponent. We had 64 at the half. We had back ups in. It was 42 rip in the first quarter and we were subbing already. We knelt it before halftime. It was a running clock the whole second half by agreement between both teams. They got a score late to avoid the shutout.
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Post by blb on Oct 4, 2017 15:44:51 GMT -6
We dropped 76 on a playoff opponent. We had 64 at the half. We had back ups in. It was 42 rip in the first quarter and we were subbing already. We knelt it before halftime. It was a running clock the whole second half by agreement between both teams. They got a score late to avoid the shutout.
How does this happen?
I'm not condemning you groundchuck , just seriously puzzled.
Twice in my head coaching career we were ahead 42-0 at half. That's the worst it's gotten. Never been behind that bad myself, thank the Football Gods.
Once our JVs were ahead 50-something to nothing at half time because other team insisted on throwing passes to us and not tackling returner, allowing Punt Return for TD, and not defending our base offense.
Would've been worse but our kicker couldn't make a PAT. In fact once he hit the scoreboard which was in the left corner of field behind EZ by the track (true story, have no idea how you can do that, but he did).
FWIW the other team did not change their offense or defense in 2nd Half. Wound up 60-something to nothing in spite of our efforts to not score when we had the ball, a running clock, and playing our backups as much as possible (we only had 22 kids so that was limited).
But that was a JV game, not a playoff game!
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 5, 2017 10:20:13 GMT -6
We dropped 76 on a playoff opponent. We had 64 at the half. We had back ups in. It was 42 rip in the first quarter and we were subbing already. We knelt it before halftime. It was a running clock the whole second half by agreement between both teams. They got a score late to avoid the shutout.
How does this happen?
I'm not condemning you groundchuck , just seriously puzzled.
Twice in my head coaching career we were ahead 42-0 at half. That's the worst it's gotten. Never been behind that bad myself, thank the Football Gods.
Once our JVs were ahead 50-something to nothing at half time because other team insisted on throwing passes to us and not tackling returner, allowing Punt Return for TD, and not defending our base offense.
Would've been worse but our kicker couldn't make a PAT. In fact once he hit the scoreboard which was in the left corner of field behind EZ by the track (true story, have no idea how you can do that, but he did).
FWIW the other team did not change their offense or defense in 2nd Half. Wound up 60-something to nothing in spite of our efforts to not score when we had the ball, a running clock, and playing our backups as much as possible (we only had 22 kids so that was limited).
But that was a JV game, not a playoff game!
Our JVs can't dress for the varsity game. I've had 6 DBs at a couple of game this year (we start 5). If I had to 'sub' in a another DB, it would have been a WR. I've been at the small school setting in a couple of these and when we put in the subs, they often were starters on the other side of the ball. We were up 63-21 in the 4th running buck sweep with a 9th grader (Varsity) who ran 11 flat 100m. He was our 3rd HB. When he ripped off a 70 TD untouched, there was a 'holding' call that kept if from getting to 70. In subvarsity games, sometimes you can't help it. When you get matched up in Region/League play with a team that just isn't very good/struggle with numbers, sometimes you can't stop the dominoes from falling. We kind of had a JV game like groundchuck had; they kept turning the ball over and decided that the second half was flag football. After a while we would just take a knee on the PAT. |
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Post by coachcb on Oct 5, 2017 11:39:05 GMT -6
We've demolished some teams at the youth, middle school and sub-varsity level but have only have one huge blow-out in a varsity game. We were up on a team 56-0 at half simply because they kept turning the ball over and we just kept scoring. We won the game 63-21 as they kept their starters in against our 3rd string in the fourth quarter and punched it in a few times.
Now that was a situation where you truly can't win... If we kept our studs in the game to protect our little guys, we risk having them get injured for the next week, long after the game was decided. But, our younger players got beat down by their starters which was just as bad.
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Post by jbutch17 on Oct 9, 2017 14:11:18 GMT -6
This is a debate? Coach your team, handle your situation, and provide a positive example for your kids. If you have the lead 56-0, 56-7, & 56-28 really aren't that different, if there's a fault with all of us, it's substitutions without a mandate (running clock) just play additional skill guys and get betters. These off the side Pizzing contests mean little about meaningless scores late in a decided game.
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Post by carookie on Oct 12, 2017 23:14:27 GMT -6
Then there is this:
Up big, 4th qtr, 4 minutes left. Thinking to just run the clock and be a good sport. They put everyone up on the line and kill my RB (jerk move).
Okay, I'll run a quick bubble, free things up, get the first, take a knee. Told my players, "nobody be a hero we are up big don't get hurt". Qb takes the snap, decides he can pick up the first on his own takes off. Gets the first, gets tackled, breaks his arm.
Our all league guy who carried the offense, knocked out for the season heading into the playoffs.
Tried not to run up the score.....failed bigger than you couldve imagined.
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Post by jbutch17 on Oct 17, 2017 6:19:27 GMT -6
Then there is this: Up big, 4th qtr, 4 minutes left. Thinking to just run the clock and be a good sport. They put everyone up on the line and kill my RB (jerk move). Okay, I'll run a quick bubble, free things up, get the first, take a knee. Told my players, "nobody be a hero we are up big don't get hurt". Qb takes the snap, decides he can pick up the first on his own takes off. Gets the first, gets tackled, breaks his arm. Our all league guy who carried the offense, knocked out for the season heading into the playoffs. Tried not to run up the score.....failed bigger than you couldve imagined. Why does he have the option (or think he has the option to run on the bubble? |
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Post by carookie on Oct 17, 2017 8:08:22 GMT -6
Then there is this: Up big, 4th qtr, 4 minutes left. Thinking to just run the clock and be a good sport. They put everyone up on the line and kill my RB (jerk move). Okay, I'll run a quick bubble, free things up, get the first, take a knee. Told my players, "nobody be a hero we are up big don't get hurt". Qb takes the snap, decides he can pick up the first on his own takes off. Gets the first, gets tackled, breaks his arm. Our all league guy who carried the offense, knocked out for the season heading into the playoffs. Tried not to run up the score.....failed bigger than you couldve imagined. Why does he have the option (or think he has the option to run on the bubble? Our QBs always have the option to run on 1st or 2nd down if they see it. I guess I shouldve made it more clear not to run in that case although he picked up the yards the final outcome was not what we wanted. |
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