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Post by olcoach53 on Sept 8, 2017 12:23:04 GMT -6
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Post by carookie on Sept 8, 2017 16:33:07 GMT -6
I'm looking to see what the story is with this. Was the kid just trying to time the snap? Did the coach put out a hit on the opposition's guard? If not I imagine he wouldn't have resigned, but who know communities can be reactionary.
The offense was NOT in victory formation, so on the surface I could see there being a feasible explanation for this.
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Post by fantom on Sept 8, 2017 16:58:34 GMT -6
I'm looking to see what the story is with this. Was the kid just trying to time the snap? Did the coach put out a hit on the opposition's guard? If not I imagine he wouldn't have resigned, but who know communities can be reactionary. The offense was NOT in victory formation, so on the surface I could see there being a feasible explanation for this. I can't imagine that he'd time the snap to run into a lineman rather than to hit a gap.
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Post by insidethestripes on Sept 9, 2017 17:14:41 GMT -6
I'm looking to see what the story is with this. Was the kid just trying to time the snap? Did the coach put out a hit on the opposition's guard? If not I imagine he wouldn't have resigned, but who know communities can be reactionary. The offense was NOT in victory formation, so on the surface I could see there being a feasible explanation for this. You're seeing what you want to see then... This is a pre-meditated battery.
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Post by carookie on Sept 9, 2017 17:34:17 GMT -6
I'm looking to see what the story is with this. Was the kid just trying to time the snap? Did the coach put out a hit on the opposition's guard? If not I imagine he wouldn't have resigned, but who know communities can be reactionary. The offense was NOT in victory formation, so on the surface I could see there being a feasible explanation for this. You're seeing what you want to see then... This is a pre-meditated battery. I'm not seeing anything different than anyone, I am simply asking for context.
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Post by fantom on Sept 9, 2017 19:53:00 GMT -6
I played in the days when it was acceptable to take a free shot at an OL when somebody went offsides. That play would have been unacceptable then and it's unacceptable now.
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Post by insidethestripes on Sept 9, 2017 20:03:39 GMT -6
You're seeing what you want to see then... This is a pre-meditated battery. I'm not seeing anything different than anyone, I am simply asking for context. Not everything needs context.
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Post by carookie on Sept 9, 2017 20:49:53 GMT -6
I'm not seeing anything different than anyone, I am simply asking for context. Not everything needs context. The coach resigned, did he call for this directly? Was he misinterpreted? That is the context I am looking for. I get in society today we like to just jump on everyone and pass blame instantly and strive outdo each other with our level of outrage, but I think it is better to be patient and get as much information as possible. The context I am looking for is whether the coach said "hit the guard early" or something to the effect, or if the player acted on his own. Did he say time the snap and the player misinterpreted? I mean heck I have seen linemen take a knee on victory play because they misinterpreted what the coach meant. This coach no longer has a job because of this player's action; isn't it fair to ask what role the coach directly played? Or should we just say- the players action was egregious enough that his coach should instantly have to resign?
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Post by insidethestripes on Sept 9, 2017 21:31:00 GMT -6
Not everything needs context. The coach resigned, did he call for this directly? Was he misinterpreted? That is the context I am looking for. I get in society today we like to just jump on everyone and pass blame instantly and strive outdo each other with our level of outrage, but I think it is better to be patient and get as much information as possible. The context I am looking for is whether the coach said "hit the guard early" or something to the effect, or if the player acted on his own. Did he say time the snap and the player misinterpreted? I mean heck I have seen linemen take a knee on victory play because they misinterpreted what the coach meant. This coach no longer has a job because of this player's action; isn't it fair to ask what role the coach directly played? Or should we just say- the players action was egregious enough that his coach should instantly have to resign? Gee whiz... I hope the poor coach wasn't misinterpreted.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 10, 2017 7:46:56 GMT -6
The coach resigned, did he call for this directly? Was he misinterpreted? That is the context I am looking for. I get in society today we like to just jump on everyone and pass blame instantly and strive outdo each other with our level of outrage, but I think it is better to be patient and get as much information as possible. The context I am looking for is whether the coach said "hit the guard early" or something to the effect, or if the player acted on his own. Did he say time the snap and the player misinterpreted? I mean heck I have seen linemen take a knee on victory play because they misinterpreted what the coach meant. This coach no longer has a job because of this player's action; isn't it fair to ask what role the coach directly played? Or should we just say- the players action was egregious enough that his coach should instantly have to resign? Gee whiz... I hope the poor coach wasn't misinterpreted. I think it is completely fair to ask what carookie is asking. Namely, why did 3 coaches resign after this incident? It can be insinuated that they had something to do with it, he is looking for confirmation or further details. What is wrong with that??
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Post by dbeck84 on Sept 10, 2017 15:14:51 GMT -6
I don't have any real knowledge on the situation, but I believe I found another article which said the coaches issued a written apology that wasn't really an apology at all. Made light of the entire situation and refused to admit any wrongdoing. The other teams on the schedule refused to play unless the coaches resigned.
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 10, 2017 15:34:27 GMT -6
Not everything needs context. The coach resigned, did he call for this directly? Was he misinterpreted? That is the context I am looking for. I get in society today we like to just jump on everyone and pass blame instantly and strive outdo each other with our level of outrage, but I think it is better to be patient and get as much information as possible. The context I am looking for is whether the coach said "hit the guard early" or something to the effect, or if the player acted on his own. Did he say time the snap and the player misinterpreted? I mean heck I have seen linemen take a knee on victory play because they misinterpreted what the coach meant. This coach no longer has a job because of this player's action; isn't it fair to ask what role the coach directly played? Or should we just say- the players action was egregious enough that his coach should instantly have to resign? It's JFL, there is no "job".
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Post by fantom on Sept 10, 2017 18:37:39 GMT -6
Gee whiz... I hope the poor coach wasn't misinterpreted. I think it is completely fair to ask what carookie is asking. Namely, why did 3 coaches resign after this incident? It can be insinuated that they had something to do with it, he is looking for confirmation or further details. What is wrong with that?? It may need context to find out why the coaches resigned. I don't think that there's any way to see it as anything other than a dirty play. though.
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Post by carookie on Sept 10, 2017 19:09:16 GMT -6
I think it is completely fair to ask what carookie is asking. Namely, why did 3 coaches resign after this incident? It can be insinuated that they had something to do with it, he is looking for confirmation or further details. What is wrong with that?? It may need context to find out why the coaches resigned. I don't think that there's any way to see it as anything other than a dirty play. though. Thats what I meant; moreover was it a dirty play ordered by the coach specifically, not at all, or was it something where the player interpreted what the coach said as to hit him cheap? The offense was not in victory formation so that why I believe the coach could have said one thing, and the player interpreted it to do what he did.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 19:09:19 GMT -6
something to the tune evil can only succeed when good men do nothing. Every public figure in our game has spent their time acting like they have stolen something, when it is their house that has broken into. And we have let some issues enter our game that have no business being there, but that is my personal opinion.
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