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Post by coachklee on Jul 28, 2017 14:36:12 GMT -6
They are fun, but 1st and goal from the 2 and having to pass the ball is kind of silly. ...and Boot / Waggle only goes so many times although we did get decent at having our SEs work hard on their Out routes this summer. |
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Post by carookie on Jul 28, 2017 14:41:02 GMT -6
I am not sure how 7 on 7 is handled in other states, but in Texas there is definitely a correlation between spring 7 on 7 success and fall success. Not saying a 7 on 7 state champion is going to win the fall ring, but teams that qualify for the state tournament tend to win their district or make the playoffs in the fall. In recent years the teams that make it deep in the fall playoffs have done well in spring 7 on 7. Well yeah that makes sense, and its the case in most places. Teams that have talented athletes/football players tend to win football game and 7-on-7s alike. That being written, there always seem to be a couple teams every year that do significantly better in passing league than in the regular season; often times those teams run a defense and offense specifically designed to be successful in 7-on-7, but not in the regular season. Do these teams outnumber the actual better teams? No. Do they usually beat those top tier teams? No. But we notice them more because they are outplaying their expected football talent and because what they are doing schematically has little to no bearing on their regular season. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Jul 28, 2017 15:47:20 GMT -6
I've been reticent to reply to this thread. We do a lot of these. We go to the tournaments. We consider these important (we throw the rock around/we get the ball thrown at us a lot). We want to win the tournaments. We can get worked up over the refs.
On the flip side, we only do stuff we do in the season. We know the trophies are plastic trophies. We know it's not real football.
We do them because:
We can't go to a summer camp
We like that it's a chance for competition
It gets our kids work
We can practice against other people
It gives our kids something to aim at
I used to put a lot of stake in 7 on 7, but now I just view it as just part of the process. If your program needs the confidence of winning to help carry over into the season, then by all means tout that trophy. If you go 2x2, motion to 3x2, then sprint the other side to run a double check route into the boundary on the 5 yard line to win; I'll probably let you know that you're a DA.
Take what you want from it, give what you can honestly give, then put the pads on for real in August.
It ain't going away.
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Post by coachcrabb2 on Jul 30, 2017 12:59:07 GMT -6
NO!
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Post by scotdaking on Oct 6, 2017 18:10:32 GMT -6
Funny reactions to the post. Mostly ignorant. The o line/d line coach says he is not a fan....duh. The coach that says there are no trophies or tournaments has never been to Texas where games are played in Cowboys stadium and Waco and Houston where real trophies are earned by the winners. And to the coach that claims this isn't real football. I will submit to you those are real receivers running real routes from the real HC's playbook. I am willing to bet those coaches who frown on 7 on 7 or think their LBs & DBs won't get acclimated to the quick game or favor their kids playing baseball or basketball to get better at football are not advancing a winning script.
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Post by Chris Clement on Oct 6, 2017 19:57:46 GMT -6
That last sentence doesn't make any sense.
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Post by gators41 on Oct 9, 2017 17:53:11 GMT -6
Rush Propst Likes it, therefore I do.
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Post by Chris Clement on Oct 9, 2017 20:31:23 GMT -6
Who?
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Post by gators41 on Oct 10, 2017 8:05:17 GMT -6
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Post by coachcb on Oct 10, 2017 9:20:29 GMT -6
I can take it or leave it.. I'm a Wing-T guy so only about 10-20% of our package is actually drop back passes. It is nice to get those extra reps at those schemes but that can be frustrating in 7-7 as well. Defenses typically do not show us the coverages we see in a season. We went to one 7-7 session and teams lived in C2 against us which didn't do our QB or WRs much good. We had to throw up about a dozen posts in a row before the DC started playing something we'd actually see. We got to throw the ball around and work on those basic fundamentals but the QBs didn't get the reads that they would during the season.
I would talk to DCs prior to these sessions and ask them to give us the same looks they would during the season (C1, C3, Quarters, CO, etc..) but they are hell-bent on getting their defense reps at coverages that are "competitive" for 7-7 or staying in their base to get turns.
But it's kind of funny when a team aligns in a soft C2 against what 31 personnel and we smoke them..
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