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Post by fantom on Aug 2, 2017 4:59:01 GMT -6
I'm as liberal as they come..... I coach my kids {censored} hard and expect physicality, toughness both physically mentally, and great {censored} effort. I hold my kids to the highest standard possible in terms of expectations.
Just shut up.
Shut up... The lefts response to any argument. Do not make this a political discussion.
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Post by aceback76 on Aug 2, 2017 5:15:15 GMT -6
I'm used to variances in player numbers from year to year. But this is getting to me. Last year, my 2nd as HC, we go 6-4, get a playoff game (lost it on a slant for TD with :04 left in the game). 4-6 the year before, my first year, and 2-8, 1-9, 1-9 the previous years. Doesn't sound like much but it's the 1st playoffs since 2007 and 1st winning season since '99. And the reward for doing well? Player numbers are down, coaches numbers are down. We typically have 33+ varsity players and right now I'm scrapping to get 26. I think I've got 11 seniors and 3 of those are transfers. I can't seem to build interest in playing football, it's almost like the better we do, the fewer players come out. When they were 1-9 4 years ago they had 37 on the roster. At a small school numbers like that are big. And the coaches. I lost my DC (lost his son), my OC (left for a better job, didn't get it, and now coaching at another school), my QB, and my DL coaches since the start of the year. I've got 2 coaches that haven't taken the time to get their district certs done so they aren't likely to be with us when we start next week. So it looks like my staff of 9 on-field coaches will be 5, maybe 6. Don't get me wrong, the players that are left are good players, kind of a weeding out of the pretenders, but this is something new to me. And the strange part - When it was early summer and we were doing football and weights and 7v7 we'd be lucky to get 15 kids to come out. Now that we're in the dead time, no football stuff, just agilities and running and weights, we're getting 26 each day. I have no idea what this season holds for us. Tough times don't survive, but tough people do!
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 2, 2017 5:18:34 GMT -6
I'm as liberal as they come..... I coach my kids {censored} hard and expect physicality, toughness both physically mentally, and great {censored} effort. I hold my kids to the highest standard possible in terms of expectations.
Just shut up.
Just curious... Do your players stand up during the National Anthem? How are your posts here relevant? They are also a blatant violation of the forum's rules.
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Post by fshamrock on Aug 2, 2017 5:44:21 GMT -6
I think it has a lot to do with the concussion scare for sure. I also think it has to do with a few other variables. Think of this from a kids perspective- We tell our kids to get out there and recruit there buddy's, and this is their selling point. "Hey bro, you should totally play football! Gonna need you to come to spring practice, go to spring football camp, hit the weight room, 3 to 4 times a week all summer, make it to the 7 on 7 camp, do 7 on 7 locally all summer, help us fundraise, help us put on a youth football camp, and then we have daily doubles in August! The good new is, we have one full week where we cant do anything so make sure to go out and have fun and be a kid during that time! Oh yeah, your other sports coaches are going to want you to attend camps and such too, better not do them if they interfere with football cause the coach will probably build up a resentment for you for not choosing football." So wadda ya think? Sound good?I think as coaches we've kind of brought in on ourselves. Over the years we added more and more over the summer and if you don't follow suit with everyone else, you're just going to be behind, it's that simple. I also think it's just a different world we live in now. Kids don't want to work hard, they're all so used to instant gratification, something else we've brought on ourselves in society but that's a whole other topic. Football is hard, so it's becoming less desirable. That being said, the numbers at our school and our league have dropped a large amount as well. I been preaching this to deaf ears for a while, it's just too much chit. When I played we all knew that two-a-days were gonna suck, but the rest of it was alright. In the summers, the rule in in texas was that coaches weren't allowed to run workouts, the weight room was just open between certain hours and we came in and worked out (i'll admit that these workouts were mostly biceps) We didn't have 7 on 7 We pretty much played touch football for a couple of weeks after the season ended, off season didn't really start until after Christmas We never had position meetings to watch film before or after school or any of that mess. Compare that to what the kids on our team are required to do now and I'm amazed that so many of these dudes decide to continue playing. Bringing me to my next point, I'm so sick of Social Media attention whores scoring a lot of likes and RT's by bashing on the "mellinials" and those dang "kids today with their pac-man video games and Dan Fogleberg Music"! I can't even count the number of kids I've worked with in the last few years alone that are tougher and smarter than anybody I even knew growing up. It's just lazy to take a whole group of people and slap a label on them as "entitled" and blame all your problems on that. Go shake your fists at some clouds you old codgers
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 2, 2017 5:50:26 GMT -6
I think it has a lot to do with the concussion scare for sure. I also think it has to do with a few other variables. Think of this from a kids perspective- We tell our kids to get out there and recruit there buddy's, and this is their selling point. "Hey bro, you should totally play football! Gonna need you to come to spring practice, go to spring football camp, hit the weight room, 3 to 4 times a week all summer, make it to the 7 on 7 camp, do 7 on 7 locally all summer, help us fundraise, help us put on a youth football camp, and then we have daily doubles in August! The good new is, we have one full week where we cant do anything so make sure to go out and have fun and be a kid during that time! Oh yeah, your other sports coaches are going to want you to attend camps and such too, better not do them if they interfere with football cause the coach will probably build up a resentment for you for not choosing football." So wadda ya think? Sound good?I think as coaches we've kind of brought in on ourselves. Over the years we added more and more over the summer and if you don't follow suit with everyone else, you're just going to be behind, it's that simple. I also think it's just a different world we live in now. Kids don't want to work hard, they're all so used to instant gratification, something else we've brought on ourselves in society but that's a whole other topic. Football is hard, so it's becoming less desirable. That being said, the numbers at our school and our league have dropped a large amount as well. I been preaching this to deaf ears for a while, it's just too much chit. When I played we all knew that two-a-days were gonna suck, but the rest of it was alright. In the summers, the rule in in texas was that coaches weren't allowed to run workouts, the weight room was just open between certain hours and we came in and worked out (i'll admit that these workouts were mostly biceps) We didn't have 7 on 7 We pretty much played touch football for a couple of weeks after the season ended, off season didn't really start until after Christmas We never had position meetings to watch film before or after school or any of that mess. Compare that to what the kids on our team are required to do now and I'm amazed that so many of these dudes decide to continue playing. Bringing me to my next point, I'm so sick of Social Media attention whores scoring a lot of likes and RT's by bashing on the "mellinials" and those dang "kids today with their pac-man video games and Dan Fogleberg Music"! I can't even count the number of kids I've worked with in the last few years alone that are tougher and smarter than anybody I even knew growing up. It's just lazy to take a whole group of people and slap a label on them as "entitled" and blame all your problems on that. Go shake your fists at some clouds you old codgers Great post, but don't get me going on millennials (I'm 31 so technically a millennial just barely), Gen X, and the Baby Boomers. I think if I ever get the chance to be a HC I am going to back off on some stuff. Sure we will lift and fundraise like everybody, but how much 7 on 7 do we really need to be doing? Do I really need kids in before school or during their lunch period for film? I've had some exchanges in here with some guys who think I'm crazy because I haven't done a chalk talk or classroom meeting in almost 3 years because I think they're boring. I can't imagine sitting through one again as a 16 year old. I can get the same things done out on the field. I'm happy to provide diagrams for the visual learners and my teams know that, but I've only had a small handful of kids ever ask.
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Post by canesfan on Aug 2, 2017 5:51:29 GMT -6
Our numbers are down. Which is mostly due to our senior class having 3 players.
But we've had our most successful three year run in school history, done major improvements to the program, got the school and community liking football, and numbers haven't increased the way I'd like.
We did have a great number for youth camp, so maybe the numbers will pick back up.
I'll say this. Our off-season target will be creating a video like the seahawk video to post online for our community. Our coaches teaching safe tackling to maybe soften the blowback the liberal media is giving this sport. Our parents will buy the kid a four wheeler or dirt bike but think football is too dangerous.
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Post by blb on Aug 2, 2017 6:11:14 GMT -6
Kids play football for two reasons:
1. Because it's fun 2. For the camaraderie
When it stops being fun they stop playing. We as coaches the last twenty years or so have made it more like work with all the demands we put on them in the Off-Season.
We used to look forward to first day of practice with great excitement. Now it's just another day on the football calendar where kids have to be at school three-four weeks before everybody else.
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Post by wolverine55 on Aug 2, 2017 6:55:41 GMT -6
Unfortunately, I think there is a lot of truth in that. At a previous coaching job, we had our first full padded practice of the season and 3-4 kids called in sick that day. One of our other assistants said something like, "Jesus Christ! How can you miss the first day of pads?!" And our HC replied, "Because the first day of pads, isn't the first day of pads anymore..." And he was right: counting camps and a couple workout days we padded up for, the "first padded practice" was like the tenth day we had been in pads all summer.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 2, 2017 7:44:01 GMT -6
Unfortunately, I think there is a lot of truth in that. At a previous coaching job, we had our first full padded practice of the season and 3-4 kids called in sick that day. One of our other assistants said something like, "Jesus Christ! How can you miss the first day of pads?!" And our HC replied, "Because the first day of pads, isn't the first day of pads anymore..." And he was right: counting camps and a couple workout days we padded up for, the "first padded practice" was like the tenth day we had been in pads all summer. But Damn that Travel Baseball and AAU basketball....
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Post by gccwolverine on Aug 2, 2017 19:37:02 GMT -6
I'm as liberal as they come..... I coach my kids {censored} hard and expect physicality, toughness both physically mentally, and great {censored} effort. I hold my kids to the highest standard possible in terms of expectations.
Just shut up.
Just curious... Do your players stand up during the National Anthem? I really don't see how this applies to anything what so ever but they do..... but if they didn't want to that'd be their {censored} right and I'd support it just like I'd support the one's who choose to stand. I was at the college level 2 years ago for 2 season and last year a year after I left I had 2 former players that I coached on the DL who chose not to stand the local media made a big deal of it I saw it and I reached out to both of them just letting them know they were still loved and supported by me and I understood where they were comming from.
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