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Post by option1 on Jul 7, 2017 13:48:54 GMT -6
I've read lots of differing opinions and ideas about giving players playbooks, etc. But to what extent do you expect that your players will study all, or any of the resources available to them? To what extent does this knowledge of your players "attitude" have a role in in your gameplan and preparation for them? Do you punish players if they don't look at what you give them? We do a ton of stuff to try and give our kids a chance. We have supplied them with computers to access videos and information on hudl. We give it to them on paper in the event they don't have internet. We get permanent library passes approved by admin. We post daily information around the locker room. We even carry white boards/press boards on the practice field so they can get visual mental reps if they're not in. They do not study! I don't expect them to do it all at once but I do ask them to put in 5-10 mins a day. I tell them if they sleep, eat, and ch!t then they have 5-10 mins a day to show they care about what we're trying to do. This has really got to me this summer. Stuff like watching an average of 20% of a 7 minute video has been the standard so far. I put installs on Hudl and a handful of 37 players will even open it. Positive is I haven't had to spend money on the rewards offered I think I'm going to put a playbook up at the school locker room .5 mile away and every time there's a busted assignment I'm gonna make them jog up to the school and then come back and recite the rule before they can go back in. I wish we had less talented players that studied their butts off to use as example and threaten the better players playing time but those kids are just as bad or worse. FWIW, we are not a next man in type of place. We go from using 7-8 two way players to be competitive down to being obliterated with subs in. IDK, rant over...
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Post by carookie on Jul 7, 2017 14:13:38 GMT -6
I am not a big fan of chalkboard installs, mental reps, and things of that nature; I don't think there is as strong of a correlation between those things and what they do on the field to spend a lot of time on it. Some time, yes, but I have worked with coaches who behave as if a kid should be able to execute something simply because there was an X with a line drawn from it.
If we are what we repeatedly do, and football is won by the players who best execute rather than those who best remember what was drawn up, then I'd rather have them spend their football related time DOing those things they need to DO on the field.
Of course this is all relative typing because maybe my 'little bit' is more than another man's 'a lot'. To be more specific I expect them to study films anytime we are doing it as a whole (which is usually an hour review on Saturday's and a 35 minute install on Monday). I expect them to study their scouting packet as we go over it as a team, and to be ready to correctly answer any major tendency question I have in there. So however much they need to study to do that is on them- (but I doubt its more than 10 min all told).
That being written, I know there are some coaches who are big on film as a way to prepare kids for college ball. If your concern is preparing your kids to be in a college program (where they emphasize film work) then you should probably mandate and punish.
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Post by option1 on Jul 7, 2017 14:41:33 GMT -6
I am not a big fan of chalkboard installs, mental reps, and things of that nature; I don't think there is as strong of a correlation between those things and what they do on the field to spend a lot of time on it. Some time, yes, but I have worked with coaches who behave as if a kid should be able to execute something simply because there was an X with a line drawn from it. If we are what we repeatedly do, and football is won by the players who best execute rather than those who best remember what was drawn up, then I'd rather have them spend their football related time DOing those things they need to DO on the field. Of course this is all relative typing because maybe my 'little bit' is more than another man's 'a lot'. To be more specific I expect them to study films anytime we are doing it as a whole (which is usually an hour review on Saturday's and a 35 minute install on Monday). I expect them to study their scouting packet as we go over it as a team, and to be ready to correctly answer any major tendency question I have in there. So however much they need to study to do that is on them- (but I doubt its more than 10 min all told). That being written, I know there are some coaches who are big on film as a way to prepare kids for college ball. If your concern is preparing your kids to be in a college program (where they emphasize film work) then you should probably mandate and punish. Good post! I tend to agree with you on most aspects. I try to find a balance. I certainly do expect them to execute based on chalk talk. However, I often find myself standing in 100 + degree heat coaching elements of the game that I believe could be learned elsewhere. For example, we installed a cover 3 variation last week. Two days prior to field install I sent out basic alignment and rules as a Hudl install. Then sent out a brief video that repeated some of the Hudl info and showed game clip examples to put on our YouTube channel. Minimum expectation was to be familiar with the call and how to align. Nope! I'm by myself so we spend about 10 mins of rep time covering the basics. I do believe in mental reps. I think the more formations, runs and patterns they see the more everything else becomes instinctive. Still, we don't expect them to execute soley based on that. You make a great point about college prep. I do bring that up occasionally but I don't beat them over the head with it.
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Post by BrendanQB on Jul 7, 2017 15:20:33 GMT -6
I don't believe every single football player is into studying the game, but I believe they all should be. Once some of them get a taste of what mental prep can do for you on friday nights, they fall in love with studying. The edge it gives them during the game is insane so I try to preach to all my guys to study a certain thing each week. They play so much faster when they do it's insane.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jul 7, 2017 18:05:01 GMT -6
I see value in it, ask my guys to do it, and our top half usually do.
I don't do classroom time. We do classroom on the field with walk through if we are seeing something new. We get as many groups going as we can so kids aren't standing around. I know as a kid I didn't give a rip during chalktalk and neither do a lot of these guys.
What I do works for me and my boys. Gotta find what works for you.
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Post by chi5hi on Jul 7, 2017 18:49:19 GMT -6
I've read lots of differing opinions and ideas about giving players playbooks, etc. But to what extent do you expect that your players will study all, or any of the resources available to them? To what extent does this knowledge of your players "attitude" have a role in in your gameplan and preparation for them? Do you punish players if they don't look at what you give them? We do a ton of stuff to try and give our kids a chance. We have supplied them with computers to access videos and information on hudl. We give it to them on paper in the event they don't have internet. We get permanent library passes approved by admin. We post daily information around the locker room. We even carry white boards/press boards on the practice field so they can get visual mental reps if they're not in. They do not study! I don't expect them to do it all at once but I do ask them to put in 5-10 mins a day. I tell them if they sleep, eat, and ch!t then they have 5-10 mins a day to show they care about what we're trying to do. This has really got to me this summer. Stuff like watching an average of 20% of a 7 minute video has been the standard so far. I put installs on Hudl and a handful of 37 players will even open it. Positive is I haven't had to spend money on the rewards offered I think I'm going to put a playbook up at the school locker room .5 mile away and every time there's a busted assignment I'm gonna make them jog up to the school and then come back and recite the rule before they can go back in. I wish we had less talented players that studied their butts off to use as example and threaten the better players playing time but those kids are just as bad or worse. FWIW, we are not a next man in type of place. We go from using 7-8 two way players to be competitive down to being obliterated with subs in. IDK, rant over... Over the years I've tried all of this (except the jog to the playbook rules) and I don't even attempt it any anymore. Well, sometimes I drag a white board onto the practice field, but only the first week. What I do is a painstakingly thorough explanation of each install while on the field. We only have 5...so it takes just a few days to put in our entire run system. Now...if a kid comes to me and asks for something to read, I'll give it to him. Remember, these guys are young teenagers who simply want to run around and have some fun. The vast majority of them have no interest in learning the game up to a coaches level, and after high school the majority of them will never put on another jock strap. If you give them a list of study material (and some coaches I know give written tests) they're going to think they are taking ANOTHER CLASS...with tests and homework. Try to remember how you thought about things when you were 16. Teenagers don't want to invest as much work and emotions into the game as the coaches do. Learn that early in your career...it saves you from the ulcers! Make your game simple, easy to explain, and playable for kids their age...use the time you save from classroom stuff to make practice fun. They co-operate with that.
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Post by wingtol on Jul 8, 2017 6:33:17 GMT -6
No player on your team takes the game as serious as we do as coaches. None. Now some kids take it serious and look at stuff but I would say the vast majority do not. Asked one of our best lineman if he even watched football he said "Nope" I said not even the Super Bowl "Nope" Asked if he liked playing "Heck yeah I get to run around and hit people!".
Kids also tend to tune you out after a while if you're constantly bombarding them with info, stuff has to be simple and easy for them to understand. In my experience most players respond better to on field teaching/reps doing stuff not the playbook study aspect.
Also I get being frustrated at busted assignments but making a kid run a mile when it happens seems like you might not get much done in practice if kids are constantly running to read a rule. Hell NFL guys have busts all the time, show them why they were wrong and what they need to do to be right. I doubt a mile jog is going to cement a rule in there head.
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Post by flingt on Jul 15, 2017 14:14:33 GMT -6
I reference Madden when talking about routes, even though I don't play Video games but I know my players do, and they surprisingly can relate some route combos that way.
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Post by natenator on Jul 15, 2017 14:53:59 GMT -6
I've read lots of differing opinions and ideas about giving players playbooks, etc. But to what extent do you expect that your players will study all, or any of the resources available to them? To what extent does this knowledge of your players "attitude" have a role in in your gameplan and preparation for them? Do you punish players if they don't look at what you give them? We do a ton of stuff to try and give our kids a chance. We have supplied them with computers to access videos and information on hudl. We give it to them on paper in the event they don't have internet. We get permanent library passes approved by admin. We post daily information around the locker room. We even carry white boards/press boards on the practice field so they can get visual mental reps if they're not in. They do not study! I don't expect them to do it all at once but I do ask them to put in 5-10 mins a day. I tell them if they sleep, eat, and ch!t then they have 5-10 mins a day to show they care about what we're trying to do. This has really got to me this summer. Stuff like watching an average of 20% of a 7 minute video has been the standard so far. I put installs on Hudl and a handful of 37 players will even open it. Positive is I haven't had to spend money on the rewards offered I think I'm going to put a playbook up at the school locker room .5 mile away and every time there's a busted assignment I'm gonna make them jog up to the school and then come back and recite the rule before they can go back in. I wish we had less talented players that studied their butts off to use as example and threaten the better players playing time but those kids are just as bad or worse. FWIW, we are not a next man in type of place. We go from using 7-8 two way players to be competitive down to being obliterated with subs in. IDK, rant over... Over the years I've tried all of this (except the jog to the playbook rules) and I don't even attempt it any anymore. Well, sometimes I drag a white board onto the practice field, but only the first week. What I do is a painstakingly thorough explanation of each install while on the field. We only have 5...so it takes just a few days to put in our entire run system. Now...if a kid comes to me and asks for something to read, I'll give it to him. Remember, these guys are young teenagers who simply want to run around and have some fun. The vast majority of them have no interest in learning the game up to a coaches level, and after high school the majority of them will never put on another jock strap. If you give them a list of study material (and some coaches I know give written tests) they're going to think they are taking ANOTHER CLASS...with tests and homework. Try to remember how you thought about things when you were 16. Teenagers don't want to invest as much work and emotions into the game as the coaches do. Learn that early in your career...it saves you from the ulcers! Make your game simple, easy to explain, and playable for kids their age...use the time you save from classroom stuff to make practice fun. They co-operate with that. This is true right here and I also used to be one of those coaches. We really don't get film time as a group so the most I will do is give them 5-8 plays to view which they have to draw out along with a defensive call to bring to me before a game. If they don't do it? No biggie. I'm simply trying to use it as an exercise to improve their play recognition and understanding of our defense as a team concept. Long gone are the days where I obsess over these things. Instead, I lose my mind over practice attendance lol
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Post by **** on Jul 15, 2017 15:11:44 GMT -6
Our kids don't watch college and NFL.
They wouldn't give a phuk about studying a playbook.
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Post by wolverine55 on Jul 15, 2017 16:04:14 GMT -6
I reference Madden when talking about routes, even though I don't play Video games but I know my players do, and they surprisingly can relate some route combos that way. I was a lineman so I obviously never received QB coaching in college or high school, but I learned more about how slant/arrow, curl/flat, and four verts works from the EA Sports NCAA Football games than anywhere else.
In answer to the question, our HC will chew them out for not being on HUDL but me personally, no I don't expect them to study anymore...
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Post by tippecanoe41 on Jul 15, 2017 23:56:08 GMT -6
I'd love to start making decisions on starters based on who studies the most. But, when I start thinking like this, I have to remind myself that these players aren't like me. I was a guy who studied A LOT!!! Things made sense to me drawn out on paper and I made a lot of tackles on defense based on my study of game film of the opponent. However, I have to realize that not every kid watches game film the same way that I did. With this, I have to come to the realization that if they don't watch it the same way that I do/did, then they might as well not be watching it if it is going to give them bad ideas because they aren't watching it the way that I want them to--so if they don't understand football the way that I do, then they won't be watching film the way that I want them to, so why worry about trying to make it happen, etc. Also, I have to realize that I'm not at a school within a community where parents are going to stress it to their kids. Because of this, we'll end up with kids who have no chance of seeing the field watching a ton of film and kids who are on the edge of starters vs. subs watching very little. I can't change how athletic a kid is, no matter how much I want to.
Over the years, perhaps I've just decided (very much subconsciously, not to be so tough), but I know how often kids watch film, and I realize that if I don't specifically teach it to that kid (not just that position), then I can't possibly say that I've made sure that every kid has learned it. Like it or not, it's the fact. Because of this, I've just decided that I want to do as few things on offense and defense as possible, since I have to walk our team through every single aspect of it. Very few coverages, very few stunts, very few checks (both sides of the ball).
I can continue complaining about the fact that they haven't learned some obscure coverage based on their independent film study, or I can make them really good at 3 basic coverages that I teach them personally, no big deal. In high school, at least in the conference and sectional that I play in, it doesn't matter as long as I'm ready to say we do this one already, etc.
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Post by groundchuck on Jul 16, 2017 14:50:58 GMT -6
I looked the other day and only a few of the top kids watched anything so far. AND THAT IS OK. It's only July 16. I know when we get into the season the players who need to know will be watching. I coach our special teams and sent prospective long snappers a four minute playlist. They watched.
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Post by option1 on Jul 16, 2017 15:25:45 GMT -6
I did a defense only highlight from last season. Put some of the music they like and a couple animations. They watch the ch!t out of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 6:58:01 GMT -6
I've read lots of differing opinions and ideas about giving players playbooks, etc. But to what extent do you expect that your players will study all, or any of the resources available to them? To what extent does this knowledge of your players "attitude" have a role in in your gameplan and preparation for them? Do you punish players if they don't look at what you give them? We do a ton of stuff to try and give our kids a chance. We have supplied them with computers to access videos and information on hudl. We give it to them on paper in the event they don't have internet. We get permanent library passes approved by admin. We post daily information around the locker room. We even carry white boards/press boards on the practice field so they can get visual mental reps if they're not in. They do not study! I don't expect them to do it all at once but I do ask them to put in 5-10 mins a day. I tell them if they sleep, eat, and ch!t then they have 5-10 mins a day to show they care about what we're trying to do.
We tell our guys upfront that if they don't do the prep they don't play. They have hard / soft copies of the playbook, access to HUDL and Facebook groups where they can ask questions or view info / videos we post. We give them weekly instructions on what we're installing / repping that week and our positional coaches host optional classroom sessions if there is demand for them.
We ask they spend 30 mins a self study and film review. If it's obvious they're not putting in the work they don't get to play (although that decision is factored in alongside attitude, attendance and ability but personal prep is often used as the tiebreaker). HC has even named and shamed individuals in practice about their HUDL usage (staring FS hadn't logged in for 2 months!).
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Post by wingtol on Jul 20, 2017 7:11:53 GMT -6
Not sure if I have logged into hudl in the last two months either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 7:19:17 GMT -6
Not sure if I have logged into hudl in the last two months either.
Should have added - that was mid-season.
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Post by irishdog on Jul 20, 2017 7:22:42 GMT -6
Years ago when I first became a head coach I was into issuing playbooks (Technology BC). Stopped wasting my time with it when I went out to lunch with the staff and found a couple of our playbooks in the booth at the McDonalds. Over time I realized that very few of the boys I coached were not into football as much as I or the coaches were. Also... working in small Catholic schools for most of my career did not allow for much extra time for the boys to "study" football so I just incorporated that study time into our practice time.
When HUDL came out I thought "Wow, finally, I can get the team to watch more film!" No... not happening at my school. IF they watched "some" video I was thrilled. Most didn't however. So... at a team meeting I asked this one question, "How long are you guys on your cell phones?" Interestingly the numbers watching "some" film increased after that meeting.
Did spending more time on "studying" the game for our players when they were not on the field equate to more wins for us? No, not really. I'm sure it varies from school to school, and even coach to coach. But in the end you have to do what's best for your situation and roll with it.
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Post by bobdoc78 on Jul 20, 2017 7:32:40 GMT -6
We had more parents watching hudl than players. I put summer install for passing game everyone wanted it we got about 14%. Are coach's have watched no film all summer. How many know coach's know hudl changed the background to a dark color on video?
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Post by aceback76 on Jul 20, 2017 9:20:47 GMT -6
I've read lots of differing opinions and ideas about giving players playbooks, etc. But to what extent do you expect that your players will study all, or any of the resources available to them? To what extent does this knowledge of your players "attitude" have a role in in your gameplan and preparation for them? Do you punish players if they don't look at what you give them? We do a ton of stuff to try and give our kids a chance. We have supplied them with computers to access videos and information on hudl. We give it to them on paper in the event they don't have internet. We get permanent library passes approved by admin. We post daily information around the locker room. We even carry white boards/press boards on the practice field so they can get visual mental reps if they're not in. They do not study! I don't expect them to do it all at once but I do ask them to put in 5-10 mins a day. I tell them if they sleep, eat, and ch!t then they have 5-10 mins a day to show they care about what we're trying to do. This has really got to me this summer. Stuff like watching an average of 20% of a 7 minute video has been the standard so far. I put installs on Hudl and a handful of 37 players will even open it. Positive is I haven't had to spend money on the rewards offered I think I'm going to put a playbook up at the school locker room .5 mile away and every time there's a busted assignment I'm gonna make them jog up to the school and then come back and recite the rule before they can go back in. I wish we had less talented players that studied their butts off to use as example and threaten the better players playing time but those kids are just as bad or worse. FWIW, we are not a next man in type of place. We go from using 7-8 two way players to be competitive down to being obliterated with subs in. IDK, rant over... 1. Classroom sessions in which players SEE it on film, HEAR coaches talk about it, and WRITE it down (before going on the field & doing it over and over until it becomes "rote"). Players write their own playbooks (Coaches will take them up & grade them). 2. Written tests. 3. Film segments of practice. Coaches make up a sheet of "Correctable Mistakes" from those films to discuss with players in the film session. Corrected at next practice. 4. Players get "Tip" Sheet for each opponent. 5. Players have HUDL. ETC.
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Post by bobdoc78 on Jul 20, 2017 11:44:41 GMT -6
I am thinking of having players keep notebook. We would hold them. I first saw this in tubby raymonds wingt playbook. Just oline and players draw everything else.
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Post by aceback76 on Jul 20, 2017 11:48:09 GMT -6
I've read lots of differing opinions and ideas about giving players playbooks, etc. But to what extent do you expect that your players will study all, or any of the resources available to them? To what extent does this knowledge of your players "attitude" have a role in in your gameplan and preparation for them? Do you punish players if they don't look at what you give them? We do a ton of stuff to try and give our kids a chance. We have supplied them with computers to access videos and information on hudl. We give it to them on paper in the event they don't have internet. We get permanent library passes approved by admin. We post daily information around the locker room. We even carry white boards/press boards on the practice field so they can get visual mental reps if they're not in. They do not study! I don't expect them to do it all at once but I do ask them to put in 5-10 mins a day. I tell them if they sleep, eat, and ch!t then they have 5-10 mins a day to show they care about what we're trying to do. This has really got to me this summer. Stuff like watching an average of 20% of a 7 minute video has been the standard so far. I put installs on Hudl and a handful of 37 players will even open it. Positive is I haven't had to spend money on the rewards offered I think I'm going to put a playbook up at the school locker room .5 mile away and every time there's a busted assignment I'm gonna make them jog up to the school and then come back and recite the rule before they can go back in. I wish we had less talented players that studied their butts off to use as example and threaten the better players playing time but those kids are just as bad or worse. FWIW, we are not a next man in type of place. We go from using 7-8 two way players to be competitive down to being obliterated with subs in. IDK, rant over... Yes, but it is taught TO them in this manner (for the most part it's not "independent study"): 1. Do the "WHO" (assignment) and "WHY" (theory of play) in the classroom, and the "HOW" (to execute) on the field. 2. Classroom sessions in which players "SEE" it on film, "HEAR" coaches talk about it, and "WRITE" it down. Players write their own playbooks (Coaches will take them up & grade them). 3. Written tests (on playbooks). 4. Players go on the field & doing it over and over until it becomes "rote". 5. Film segments of practice. Coaches make up a sheet of "Correctable Mistakes" from those films to discuss with players in the film session. Corrected at next practice. 6. Players get "Tip" Sheet for each opponent. 7. Players have HUDL. ETC.
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Post by jgordon1 on Jul 20, 2017 14:49:37 GMT -6
well over the years, here is what works for me. I have all sorts of training videos and all that which I do give to the kids, some look at it some don't. to some kids it would be like me looking at a medical textbook..WTF
#1 I go over all the videos with the kids, #2 we do assignment and alignment EVERYDAY #3 DO NOT CHANGE YOUR DEFENSE TO THE CURRENT FLAVOR OF THE MONTH. we have changed very little #4 Find different ways to explain your defense #5 Have the upper classmen help the youngsters.. we call this creating a legacy #6 if a stud is too stupid to play it is YOUR fault
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Post by bober on Jul 20, 2017 18:23:03 GMT -6
We put in the work to give them the opportunity to watch what we put on hudl and use google forms to check understanding. Set an expectation that watching it is important and the kids usually buy into it. If we have some that don't then it may determine whether they play or not only if it is a close competition. But I look at it as it is our responsibility to get them prepared from the time practice starts to the end. If they aren't understanding it then they aren't capable or we aren't doing our job and need to fix our approach. If they buy into the idea of watching and learning it will make them better and our team. We have to sell them on this. But I know what it is like to be 14-18 and I enjoyed chasing other things on my off time.
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Post by coachklee on Jul 21, 2017 6:41:03 GMT -6
I've read lots of differing opinions and ideas about giving players playbooks, etc. But to what extent do you expect that your players will study all, or any of the resources available to them? To what extent does this knowledge of your players "attitude" have a role in in your gameplan and preparation for them? Do you punish players if they don't look at what you give them? We do a ton of stuff to try and give our kids a chance. We have supplied them with computers to access videos and information on hudl. We give it to them on paper in the event they don't have internet. We get permanent library passes approved by admin. We post daily information around the locker room. We even carry white boards/press boards on the practice field so they can get visual mental reps if they're not in. They do not study! I don't expect them to do it all at once but I do ask them to put in 5-10 mins a day. I tell them if they sleep, eat, and ch!t then they have 5-10 mins a day to show they care about what we're trying to do. This has really got to me this summer. Stuff like watching an average of 20% of a 7 minute video has been the standard so far. I put installs on Hudl and a handful of 37 players will even open it. Positive is I haven't had to spend money on the rewards offered I think I'm going to put a playbook up at the school locker room .5 mile away and every time there's a busted assignment I'm gonna make them jog up to the school and then come back and recite the rule before they can go back in. I wish we had less talented players that studied their butts off to use as example and threaten the better players playing time but those kids are just as bad or worse. FWIW, we are not a next man in type of place. We go from using 7-8 two way players to be competitive down to being obliterated with subs in. IDK, rant over... Yes, but it is taught TO them in this manner (for the most part it's not "independent study"): 1. Do the "WHO" (assignment) and "WHY" (theory of play) in the classroom, and the "HOW" (to execute) on the field. 2. Classroom sessions in which players "SEE" it on film, "HEAR" coaches talk about it, and "WRITE" it down. Players write their own playbooks (Coaches will take them up & grade them). 3. Written tests (on playbooks). 4. Players go on the field & doing it over and over until it becomes "rote". 5. Film segments of practice. Coaches make up a sheet of "Correctable Mistakes" from those films to discuss with players in the film session. Corrected at next practice. 6. Players get "Tip" Sheet for each opponent. 7. Players have HUDL. ETC. Written tests? What is an example question? What if you have guys that bomb it?
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Post by option1 on Jul 21, 2017 8:16:30 GMT -6
Yes, but it is taught TO them in this manner (for the most part it's not "independent study"): 1. Do the "WHO" (assignment) and "WHY" (theory of play) in the classroom, and the "HOW" (to execute) on the field. 2. Classroom sessions in which players "SEE" it on film, "HEAR" coaches talk about it, and "WRITE" it down. Players write their own playbooks (Coaches will take them up & grade them). 3. Written tests (on playbooks). 4. Players go on the field & doing it over and over until it becomes "rote". 5. Film segments of practice. Coaches make up a sheet of "Correctable Mistakes" from those films to discuss with players in the film session. Corrected at next practice. 6. Players get "Tip" Sheet for each opponent. 7. Players have HUDL. ETC. Written tests? What is an example question? What if you have guys that bomb it? I don't do written test anymore, although there is a "quiz" reminder during pre-game meals on Friday. When I did give "test" the questions were general alignment communication, coverage rules, etc. There were no "if-then" scenarios or "where do you fit vs. power". Questions were "what is your rule in cover 4?" The answer had to be 8x1 alignment, 21 reads, all of 1 vertical. I might ask "if you hear scoot from the safety, what do you do?", answer was slide over 1 gap. Our Friday stuff is just formation gameplan checks. I give them a formation they give me the check. I found there was a direct correlation to "bombed" test and player mistakes, even if they were kids that had to play for us. I used to kinda rub it in their face a little by saying something like "not surprised you blew the call since you also answered it wrong on the test." I stopped doing that because, well it never made any difference. I have my own "hit chart" for practice now. We have things scripted in order to get a certain amount of correct reps for the week. Used to be more random and although we definitely practiced what we should be doing I felt I needed a system to quantify the possibility for success/failure. If it's a gameplan coverage, check, pressure, etc and we don't hit that number in practice we don't run it. If we're not even close by Wed. it is scrapped. Aside from base, which has it's own check system, I go into a game with 6 or less calls.
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Post by aceback76 on Jul 21, 2017 9:11:51 GMT -6
Written tests? What is an example question? What if you have guys that bomb it? I don't do written test anymore, although there is a "quiz" reminder during pre-game meals on Friday. When I did give "test" the questions were general alignment communication, coverage rules, etc. There were no "if-then" scenarios or "where do you fit vs. power". Questions were "what is your rule in cover 4?" The answer had to be 8x1 alignment, 21 reads, all of 1 vertical. I might ask "if you hear scoot from the safety, what do you do?", answer was slide over 1 gap. Our Friday stuff is just formation gameplan checks. I give them a formation they give me the check. I found there was a direct correlation to "bombed" test and player mistakes, even if they were kids that had to play for us. I used to kinda rub it in their face a little by saying something like "not surprised you blew the call since you also answered it wrong on the test." I stopped doing that because, well it never made any difference. I have my own "hit chart" for practice now. We have things scripted in order to get a certain amount of correct reps for the week. Used to be more random and although we definitely practiced what we should be doing I felt I needed a system to quantify the possibility for success/failure. If it's a gameplan coverage, check, pressure, etc and we don't hit that number in practice we don't run it. If we're not even close by Wed. it is scrapped. Aside from base, which has it's own check system, I go into a game with 6 or less calls. Written tests in which they DRAW an assignment, or STATE a blocking rule, ID something on video, ETC. If they don't do well - they get "extra classroom work" with their position coach (no one ever gets "shot at sunrise")! Simple as that! I personally test the QB's, & I have those written up.
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Post by BrendanQB on Jul 21, 2017 13:01:39 GMT -6
I don't do written test anymore, although there is a "quiz" reminder during pre-game meals on Friday. When I did give "test" the questions were general alignment communication, coverage rules, etc. There were no "if-then" scenarios or "where do you fit vs. power". Questions were "what is your rule in cover 4?" The answer had to be 8x1 alignment, 21 reads, all of 1 vertical. I might ask "if you hear scoot from the safety, what do you do?", answer was slide over 1 gap. Our Friday stuff is just formation gameplan checks. I give them a formation they give me the check. I found there was a direct correlation to "bombed" test and player mistakes, even if they were kids that had to play for us. I used to kinda rub it in their face a little by saying something like "not surprised you blew the call since you also answered it wrong on the test." I stopped doing that because, well it never made any difference. I have my own "hit chart" for practice now. We have things scripted in order to get a certain amount of correct reps for the week. Used to be more random and although we definitely practiced what we should be doing I felt I needed a system to quantify the possibility for success/failure. If it's a gameplan coverage, check, pressure, etc and we don't hit that number in practice we don't run it. If we're not even close by Wed. it is scrapped. Aside from base, which has it's own check system, I go into a game with 6 or less calls. Written tests in which they DRAW an assignment, or STATE a blocking rule, ID something on video, ETC. If they don't do well - they get "extra classroom work" with their position coach (no one ever gets "shot at sunrise")! Simple as that! I personally test the QB's, & I have those written up. Maybe I can help give y'all a player-friendly option here. Not to self-promote too much but my iPhone app, QBIQ, is a way to test your kids on YOUR plays vs. YOUR OPPONENT'S defensive sets. It's unique because kids are always on their phones, so the appeal of taking a football test on their phone through an app feels familiar to them. Since it's on a familiar platform, they're more motivated to test themselves whenever they have a free 5 minutes.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 21, 2017 13:33:35 GMT -6
We do 20 40's on Monday for conditioning. Pancake blocks, great fakes, fumbles caused, fumbles recovered, and interceptions can get you one off or anything else I deem worthy. This only applies if we win. If we lose, you run the full 20.
But,
If you do your bonus assignment and text me a picture of it or hand it to me, you get 5 40's off no matter if we win or lose. No penalty for not doing the bonus assignment.
The bonus assignment is usually related to tell me about your individual opponent. The LT needs to tell me who will line up on him. Estimate their sizes and strengths. Their moves. Their techniques. Their tells, etc.
We usually release the next opponent films on Saturday after we watch film of our previous games.
We make cutups for the whole team to watch and release those as we make them. Usually on Sunday, but maybe Saturday, and sometimes we make extra ones throughout the week.
We watch these cutups together on Tuesday and usually Thursday and sometimes on Friday. The main cutup could be three films condensed to 30-50 plays of all special teams, defense, and offense.
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Post by option1 on Jul 21, 2017 14:02:41 GMT -6
I reference Madden when talking about routes, even though I don't play Video games but I know my players do, and they surprisingly can relate some route combos that way. So do I! I frequently have to remind them that "this ain't phuggin Madden! You can't compete out here with your thumbs!" I know what you mean though. The last football video game I played was Tecmo Bowl but apparently some of our calls share a name with plays from Madden. I'll tell them x is called so and so which is followed by players response of "ooooh dats my $h!t from Madden boy, we gonna be raw!"
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