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Post by fantom on Jul 5, 2017 20:52:12 GMT -6
I had a discussion on a topic that was a little creepy. First let me say, I am naïve to no ends. I had a friend who knew a fellow coach was no good (rape/boys). He knew. I did not get a chance to ask him how he knew. But he knew. So question is what are those signs? When do you know you have somebody on staff who shouldn't be anywhere near a school or kids? What do you mean by "he knew"? How did he know? Was he right? |
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Post by spos21ram on Jul 5, 2017 21:17:52 GMT -6
What do you mean by "he knew"? How did he know? Was he right? signs. I do not know how he knew. Again, I didn't get a chance to ask. Yeah, he was right. nailed it. And he knew LONG before anybody else did. I hope he doesn't tell too many people "he knew"....if you knew or even if just a hunch and did nothing then you're gonna be in some hot water. |
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Post by fantom on Jul 5, 2017 21:18:35 GMT -6
What do you mean by "he knew"? How did he know? Was he right? signs. I do not know how he knew. Again, I didn't get a chance to ask. Yeah, he was right. nailed it. And he knew LONG before anybody else did. Ask him. |
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Post by NC1974 on Jul 5, 2017 21:38:31 GMT -6
There are behaviors that could be considered "grooming" behavior, in which a predator is trying to make a prospective victim feel special. Thankfully, I've never had direct experience with this. I do think programs should have clear expectations for coaches' behavior to make sure predators don't have easy access AND to make sure good coaches don't get accused of being something they are not. Just some basic expectations that I have seen over the years:
- never be alone with one player/student in a closed office or room
- don't have kids over to your house (unless it's all kids and multiple adults/coaches)
- don't carry on private email/text conversations with individuals, instead use all team messages
These are just a few and may or may not fit every situation.
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Post by coachfloyd on Jul 6, 2017 5:07:54 GMT -6
Teachers are mandated reporters. It's not your job to investigate just report.
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Post by seabass on Jul 6, 2017 10:58:53 GMT -6
Teachers are mandated reporters. It's not your job to investigate just report. Humans should be mandated reporters! |
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Post by coachfloyd on Jul 6, 2017 13:00:37 GMT -6
Teachers are mandated reporters. It's not your job to investigate just report. Humans should be mandated reporters! Agreed. I'm talking legally to not lose your job, teaching certificate, and freedom. |
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Post by seabass on Jul 6, 2017 16:02:39 GMT -6
Humans should be mandated reporters! Agreed. I'm talking legally to not lose your job, teaching certificate, and freedom. I get it....It's just so hard for me to imagine keeping something like that yourself. I know it happens all the time, just hard to fathom a grown up allowing another grown up to hurt a kid like that. Disgusting! |
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Post by option1 on Jul 7, 2017 15:11:38 GMT -6
Did anyone give the HC a heads-up? I'm not seeing a logical progression here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 19:59:59 GMT -6
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Post by s73 on Jul 7, 2017 20:41:04 GMT -6
Unfortunately, had some stuff in my professional career I was a witness to that I had to report that evolved into an arrest. The signs I saw were lots of alone time in our office with a female student, walking in & feeling an awkward silence between the student and teacher, lots of flirtation, mentioning a student several times in a more personal context (good kid, pretty girl, etc, repeatedly).
Rides home under the guise of " I don't care if we're not supposed to gives kids rides home if its raining or dark I'm going to do it" (trying to sound like a hero, but really ulterior motives).
Sharing stories of their own questionable behavior to feel their colleagues out for their reactions & minimizing that behavior when the colleagues give them the old WTF face.
It's not too hard to see. Generally, if something seems out of place it probably is.
He!!, when I was in 8th grade my teacher (and unfortunately FB coach) seemed really flirty w/ all the pretty girls in our class. I was walking home 1 day & saw him pull up beside her & offer her a ride home. She didn't take it, but I can remember right then as a 13 year old thinking this guys got issues.
Sure enough he was arrested just a few years later. If a 13 year old can figure it out it's not too tough if you are really willing to be honest with yourself.
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