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Post by utchuckd on May 12, 2017 12:29:09 GMT -6
Do these things have a legit purpose or no? They've been showing up on the practice field (we're t-shirt/shorts, no pads for spring) and I have no idea if it's a distraction or if these kids would be a lost ball in high weeds without it. Their focus is all over the place now, and I can't imagine it being worse, but I've been wrong before.
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Post by carookie on May 12, 2017 12:34:02 GMT -6
They have no purpose other than to show that everyone one of us should have been smart enough to invent a stupid fad and made millions off of it. I know they are marketed as giving those with ADD something to do with their hands so their mind can stay focused, but c'mon.
The good thing is that by fall they will be a thing of the past.
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Post by coachmonkey on May 12, 2017 12:34:59 GMT -6
Just start using them as teachers and parents and the kids will stop. Simple solution.
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Post by realdawg on May 12, 2017 12:42:02 GMT -6
Our kids have them. Heck my own kid has one. But no way in hades they'd get to have it on the practice field. Where are they storing it while they are working? In their jock?
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Post by adawg2302 on May 12, 2017 14:49:01 GMT -6
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Post by IronmanFootball on May 12, 2017 15:11:53 GMT -6
at least they aren't classturbating?
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Post by carookie on May 12, 2017 15:38:02 GMT -6
I was talking with a couple kids earlier this week, and told them at least kendamas involved a challenge and trying to do something. Fidget spinners are just spinning something.
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Post by coachbdud on May 12, 2017 15:55:55 GMT -6
they're marketed as something to help ADD/ADHD kids "focus better in class" by keeping their hands occupied and burning off some nervous energy
in reality they're just annoying
saw a good pic on twitter where a teacher put a padlock through one
i just threaten to throw them on the roof
i have only seen "the dorky/nerdy" kids use them
never one of my football kids, let alone bring it out to the field
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Post by rsmith627 on May 12, 2017 17:04:46 GMT -6
They have no value other than pissing me off. Can't envision our kids bringing them out at throwing in a few weeks when we are working, but we also have a culture with insanely high expectations where pressure is greater on me as a JV coach than it was as a varsity OC at some stops.
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Post by **** on May 12, 2017 22:41:23 GMT -6
Every kid at the MS has one, zero kids at the HS do.
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Post by agap on May 12, 2017 23:08:08 GMT -6
Are we talking about class or football?
Some students need them in class. I have seen some focus a lot better when they have one.
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Post by wingtol on May 13, 2017 6:08:17 GMT -6
_ those things. Try working in an elementary school, they got so bad in one of our district schools they were banned. Teachers can treat them like cell phones by confiscating them and making parents come in and get them.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 13, 2017 7:22:16 GMT -6
Do these things have a legit purpose or no? They've been showing up on the practice field (we're t-shirt/shorts, no pads for spring) and I have no idea if it's a distraction or if these kids would be a lost ball in high weeds without it. Their focus is all over the place now, and I can't imagine it being worse, but I've been wrong before. High School?? Seriously?? I teach K-5, and they are quickly being banned from schools at our age because they are essentially TOYS. Props to the marketers though, brilliant marketing!! Identify an "iffy" condition (ADHD), and say "Oh, this will help". Combine this with the current "my baby can do no wrong and is a very delicate special flower that you don't understand" parenting and you have a cash cow. wingtol That is exactly our schools policy as of Yesterday. The original fidget cube, I could at least see some logic to it. It is small, and easily manipulated by one hand. Similar to clicking a pen. But this thing.... I see NO point. It is just a toy.
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Post by utchuckd on May 13, 2017 7:26:24 GMT -6
Not really, I slipped a middle school question in on y'all.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 13, 2017 7:30:21 GMT -6
Are we talking about class or football? Some students need them in class. I have seen some focus a lot better when they have one. How? And, if football is an extension of the classroom, wouldn't it stand to reason then that your athletes would be doing better in practice/games with spinners then?
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Post by CS on May 13, 2017 8:00:38 GMT -6
I tell my kids that if they have a doctors note that says they need it then they are more than welcome to use them.
My big problem with this fad is perfectly healthy kids are trying to convince me and probably themselves that they have ADHD.
I'm no phycologists but this seems problematic to me
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Post by carookie on May 13, 2017 12:46:03 GMT -6
I tell my kids that if they have a doctors note that says they need it then they are more than welcome to use them. My big problem with this fad is perfectly healthy kids are trying to convince me and probably themselves that they have ADHD.I'm no phycologists but this seems problematic to me Heck, school counselors have been doing that for over a decade now, it helps further justify their professional existence.
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Post by leighty on May 13, 2017 12:50:35 GMT -6
Do these things have a legit purpose or no? They've been showing up on the practice field (we're t-shirt/shorts, no pads for spring) and I have no idea if it's a distraction or if these kids would be a lost ball in high weeds without it. Their focus is all over the place now, and I can't imagine it being worse, but I've been wrong before. So tell them to keep that {censored} in tbe locker room and ask for forgiveness later.
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Post by 53 on May 13, 2017 20:48:15 GMT -6
Lucky bastards. My dad gave me my first fidget spinner when I was around 10. It was a sthil weed eater.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on May 14, 2017 6:32:07 GMT -6
I don't know if ADHD is "iffy". I understand it gets a bad rep, but I have it myself and I can assure you that it sucks for people who actually do have it. When I was in grade school (before ADHD was really known), I would go through folders every 3 months because I used to pick at the plastic covers of them without even realizing it.
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Post by 19delta on May 14, 2017 8:14:52 GMT -6
Middle school teacher here (6th/7th).
I have kids who have them. As long as they are doing their work, I don't mind if kids use them.
The biggest problem, IMO, is that the kids who are most easily distracted are the ones that have them.
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Post by larrymoe on May 14, 2017 8:54:57 GMT -6
I don't know if ADHD is "iffy". I understand it gets a bad rep, but I have it myself and I can assure you that it sucks for people who actually do have it. When I was in grade school (before ADHD was really known), I would go through folders every 3 months because I used to pick at the plastic covers of them without even realizing it. I don't know that anyone is doubting its existence, just doubting how many people are diagnosed as "having" it.
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Post by larrymoe on May 14, 2017 9:21:14 GMT -6
I tell my kids that if they have a doctors note that says they need it then they are more than welcome to use them. My big problem with this fad is perfectly healthy kids are trying to convince me and probably themselves that they have ADHD.I'm no phycologists but this seems problematic to me Heck, school counselors have been doing that for over a decade now, it helps further justify their professional existence. And it allows the school an out on shoving that kid through to graduation because of their "label". That and mommy and daddy can draw a check for their kid's "disability".
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Post by rsmith627 on May 14, 2017 9:25:38 GMT -6
Heck, school counselors have been doing that for over a decade now, it helps further justify their professional existence. And it allows the school an out on shoving that kid through to graduation because of their "label". That and mommy and daddy can draw a check for their kid's "disability". Only if they're broke. We don't get anything for Down syndrome. Most aren't getting money for ADHD because that stuff is all income based. That will vary by school (high poverty vs. low poverty) but for the most part probably isn't happening.
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Post by fantom on May 14, 2017 9:29:13 GMT -6
I know some people who have autistic kids. They say that these things help their kids and are pi$$ed that they've become a fad that have caused schools to ban them.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 14, 2017 9:51:05 GMT -6
I know some people who have autistic kids. They say that these things help their kids and are pi$$ed that they've become a fad that have caused schools to ban them. Keep in mind that in these cases, it isn't the spinners specifically "helping" these kids. It is simply that these kids have found a toy that they enjoy (in this case, the spinner).
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Post by larrymoe on May 14, 2017 9:54:18 GMT -6
And it allows the school an out on shoving that kid through to graduation because of their "label". That and mommy and daddy can draw a check for their kid's "disability". Only if they're broke. We don't get anything for Down syndrome. Most aren't getting money for ADHD because that stuff is all income based. That will vary by school (high poverty vs. low poverty) but for the most part probably isn't happening. Pretty much everyone in rural Illinois outside Chicago is broke.
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Post by clowndude on May 14, 2017 12:38:21 GMT -6
Middle school teacher here (6th/7th). I have kids who have them. As long as they are doing their work, I don't mind if kids use them. The biggest problem, IMO, is that the kids who are most easily distracted are the ones that have them. I teach 6th math. Not only have I never seen one positive example of the spinners helping, but I have literally---literally seen kids stare at then for several minutes at a time instead of doing their work. I take them up now if I see them and parents have to get them.
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Post by agap on May 14, 2017 12:52:31 GMT -6
I know some people who have autistic kids. They say that these things help their kids and are pi$$ed that they've become a fad that have caused schools to ban them. Keep in mind that in these cases, it isn't the spinners specifically "helping" these kids. It is simply that these kids have found a toy that they enjoy (in this case, the spinner). Do you teach?
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Post by tothehouse on May 14, 2017 13:16:23 GMT -6
What if you're a single wing team? You're QB gets to have one any time he wants.
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