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Post by coachchambers on May 3, 2017 18:21:24 GMT -6
As a former college player myself, I know that I struggled with the motivation to do drills and conditioning type of stuff for the summer, but being a gym rat I never missed a lift. I just had an idea that would be like a side coaching job to do summer workouts for area football players who are collegiate athletes. I have a loose idea in my head on what all would be done drill wise and running wise. I would steer clear of lifting untill I get my S&C certification, but what do you guys think? any input/critisim is definitely welcome!
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Post by fantom on May 3, 2017 18:59:41 GMT -6
How many college athletes don't stay on campus and work with the S&C coaches during the summer?
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Post by coachstrongfootball on May 3, 2017 20:14:55 GMT -6
Quite a few don't stay on campus D3/NAIA level. Especially freshman and sophomores. Some will go home for May and come back, etc... With that being said, most at the college level will stick to a specific program whether it be on campus or back home. Many S&C coaches get pissed off when "random guys back home" train their players during the summer. Just what I have witnessed. I don't handle any of the S&C as we are lucky enough to have full-time strength staff at our school.
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Post by coachchambers on May 3, 2017 20:41:55 GMT -6
Quite a few don't stay on campus D3/NAIA level. Especially freshman and sophomores. Some will go home for May and come back, etc... With that being said, most at the college level will stick to a specific program whether it be on campus or back home. Many S&C coaches get pissed off when "random guys back home" train their players during the summer. Just what I have witnessed. I don't handle any of the S&C as we are lucky enough to have full-time strength staff at our school. Wouldn't be strength stuff just yet, mostly conditioning stuff. I.e. running, drill work. I would only do the strength side of things for the freshman going in so that they are not going into camp weak. |
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Post by coachchambers on May 3, 2017 20:43:01 GMT -6
And even then, I would still have them run their program if they decided they wanted to do strength with me. It is as simple as taking them throught their workout making sure they do correct form.
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Post by coachstrongfootball on May 4, 2017 14:27:49 GMT -6
Yeah I think you are on the right track. Might have something there.
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Post by coachchambers on May 4, 2017 14:59:48 GMT -6
One of my high school coaches, who I am close friends with, will be my partner in it. Do not know right now when we will be starting this.
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Post by fantom on May 5, 2017 7:36:54 GMT -6
I'm retired from teaching so I've looked at possible ways to make a buck from my coaching expertise. Some questions that I think that you should ask of yourself (Don't bother answering me. I'm not a potential customer):
1. Is there a market? Are there enough potential customers in your area? Are there enough who are willing to pay? How much are they willing to pay?
2. Why pay you? What do you personally bring to the table that would convince people to hire you?
3. How will you get the word out to potential customers?
4. Where will you hold your workouts? If you're planning to do it at your partner's school are you sure that the school will allow it? I have a buddy who was running a basketball camp at his school until the school started charging him rent for the gym.
5. When will you hold your workouts?
6. Insurance- do you need it and can you get it? I have no idea if this is a real problem but I can see a scenario where Johnny Slapdyk gets hurt and blames you for "wrecking his career".
7. With all of these considerations, is there the potential to make enough money to be worth the time and effort? I decided that it wasn't.
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Post by coachchambers on May 5, 2017 14:10:03 GMT -6
I'm retired from teaching so I've looked at possible ways to make a buck from my coaching expertise. Some questions that I think that you should ask of yourself (Don't bother answering me. I'm not a potential customer): 1. Is there a market? Are there enough potential customers in your area? Are there enough who are willing to pay? How much are they willing to pay? 2. Why pay you? What do you personally bring to the table that would convince people to hire you? 3. How will you get the word out to potential customers? 4. Where will you hold your workouts? If you're planning to do it at your partner's school are you sure that the school will allow it? I have a buddy who was running a basketball camp at his school until the school started charging him rent for the gym. 5. When will you hold your workouts? 6. Insurance- do you need it and can you get it? I have no idea if this is a real problem but I can see a scenario where Johnny Slapdyk gets hurt and blames you for "wrecking his career". 7. With all of these considerations, is there the potential to make enough money to be worth the time and effort? I decided that it wasn't. I really appreciate the input! Those are all very real points, and some I had not taken into consideration quite yet. 1. Yes there is a market, in our area, it is loaded with NAIA, some D3, loads of D2, and a few D1 players with no affordable place around. I really would not charge a whole lot, maybe 10-20 bucks a session, just because I am not really in it for the money. 2. I am currently in college, and my first year of coaching is coming up, but I am pursuing a Bachelors in Human Development/Education and my minor is Health and Human Development, and I will eventually obtain a S&C certification. I played for 12 years and I have a good idea as to what it takes to succeed in football. My friend has coached fjor four years, is an upstanding member of our community, teaches fourth grade, and is the teams Strength coach and DC. We would really sell the affordability. 3. Word of mouth and a website. 4. School is cool with it, its a football town that likes to see their alums succeed. 5. Evenings 6. This is one I did not think of, I would assume we would get a form for them to sign but I am not sure about insurance. 7. I think eventually we could build up quite a good reputation on helping players succeed. |
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Post by **** on May 5, 2017 15:28:55 GMT -6
So you're a personal trainer
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Post by coachchambers on May 5, 2017 17:15:45 GMT -6
No I am not.
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Post by **** on May 5, 2017 18:46:14 GMT -6
It sounds like you want to be a personal trainer that only works with college football players. |
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Post by coachchambers on May 6, 2017 15:35:59 GMT -6
Am I not aloud to be a high school teacher and coach and do this on the side during the summer? haha this would not be a full time gig.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 7, 2017 13:39:16 GMT -6
Am I not aloud to be a high school teacher and coach and do this on the side during the summer? haha this would not be a full time gig. Being allowed to do it would be based on district rules and such. I will say though, it doesn't seem in the best of taste if you charged your own ex players to work with you. I will be honest, I don't know if there is a market for it. I don't see $10-$15 value to watch someone do some COD drills and run some cone drills. |
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Post by carookie on May 7, 2017 14:07:42 GMT -6
I coached with a guy who worked with MANY players in the offseason- HS guys going to college, NCAA guys getting ready for the combine, or guys who didn't get drafted but are trying out for pro teams (Canada or NFL).
In most cases, the work he did with players who were currently part of a college team was a supplement to what their coaches had given them to do as part of their offseason workouts. Moreover, these cases were very rare and consisted primarily of players who had known him previously.
Of course the biggest selling point was that he had coached in the NFL and been a D1 coordinator, people pay for a resume.
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