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Post by wolverine55 on May 4, 2017 13:04:42 GMT -6
Since we're talking about tardiness, when a kid strolls in 10 minutes late with a bag of McDonald's I'll usually rage. Oh yeah!! I had a girl show up 15 minutes late this morning with a gigantic muffin and a 24 ounce coffee. I told her to either put it in her locker of the garbage. "I woke up late! I'm starving!" "That's a Lil Suzy problem, not a Mr. Coachcb problem. Garbage or locker, your pick. You've got three minutes to figure it out." Had a teacher get frustrated with a student one time for constantly bringing in a McDonald's soda into his room. Our students are actually allowed drinks, but it has to have a "screw top" lid. Anyway, the teacher told him to throw it away, next day same thing, and same thing for the next few days. Well, after several days, the teacher noticed the student was gently placing the soda next to or in the trash can and then grabbing it on his way out. So, when the student did the same thing again, the teacher went over, hocked a loogie into it...and then gently placed it back in the trashcan! Student saw it, so no harm was done but still funny!
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Post by coachcb on May 4, 2017 13:29:52 GMT -6
Oh yeah!! I had a girl show up 15 minutes late this morning with a gigantic muffin and a 24 ounce coffee. I told her to either put it in her locker of the garbage. "I woke up late! I'm starving!" "That's a Lil Suzy problem, not a Mr. Coachcb problem. Garbage or locker, your pick. You've got three minutes to figure it out." Way to much time.... The {censored} student in me would have scarfed down the muffin and chugged the drink in those 3 minutes and smiled at you. They've tried to pull that chit with me in the past. I must be the only teacher that doesn't allow anything but water in the room.. I had a student show up one day with four pop tarts and tried to hoover down all of them when I told him to take them to the locker. He was in detention with me for two hours for it.
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Post by coachcb on May 4, 2017 14:12:44 GMT -6
Oh yeah!! I had a girl show up 15 minutes late this morning with a gigantic muffin and a 24 ounce coffee. I told her to either put it in her locker of the garbage. "I woke up late! I'm starving!" "That's a Lil Suzy problem, not a Mr. Coachcb problem. Garbage or locker, your pick. You've got three minutes to figure it out." Had a teacher get frustrated with a student one time for constantly bringing in a McDonald's soda into his room. Our students are actually allowed drinks, but it has to have a "screw top" lid. Anyway, the teacher told him to throw it away, next day same thing, and same thing for the next few days. Well, after several days, the teacher noticed the student was gently placing the soda next to or in the trash can and then grabbing it on his way out. So, when the student did the same thing again, the teacher went over, hocked a loogie into it...and then gently placed it back in the trashcan! Student saw it, so no harm was done but still funny! Ha! I'm trying to convince our school board to completely ban all food and drinks (except for water) outside of the lunch room next year. I walk past another teacher's room and can actually hear the kids getting fatter and lazier with every crunch of the potato chips they're stuffing in their faces.
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Post by rsmith627 on May 4, 2017 14:18:50 GMT -6
Had a teacher get frustrated with a student one time for constantly bringing in a McDonald's soda into his room. Our students are actually allowed drinks, but it has to have a "screw top" lid. Anyway, the teacher told him to throw it away, next day same thing, and same thing for the next few days. Well, after several days, the teacher noticed the student was gently placing the soda next to or in the trash can and then grabbing it on his way out. So, when the student did the same thing again, the teacher went over, hocked a loogie into it...and then gently placed it back in the trashcan! Student saw it, so no harm was done but still funny! Ha! I'm trying to convince our school board to completely ban all food and drinks (except for water) outside of the lunch room next year. I walk past another teacher's room and can actually hear the kids getting fatter and lazier with every crunch of the potato chips they're stuffing in their faces. Problem with across the board bans like that is you're always going to have teachers who won't enforce them. Makes a headache for those of us who do enforce the rules.
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Post by larrymoe on May 4, 2017 14:23:30 GMT -6
Ha! I'm trying to convince our school board to completely ban all food and drinks (except for water) outside of the lunch room next year. I walk past another teacher's room and can actually hear the kids getting fatter and lazier with every crunch of the potato chips they're stuffing in their faces. Problem with across the board bans like that is you're always going to have teachers who won't enforce them. Makes a headache for those of us who do enforce the rules. Or when you have an across the board ban like that and not only do some teachers not enforce, but neither do your admins.
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Post by rsmith627 on May 4, 2017 14:24:51 GMT -6
Problem with across the board bans like that is you're always going to have teachers who won't enforce them. Makes a headache for those of us who do enforce the rules. Or when you have an across the board ban like that and not only do some teachers not enforce, but neither do your admins. I've heard of these spineless admin types. Have never had the misery of working for them though.
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Post by larrymoe on May 4, 2017 14:26:42 GMT -6
Or when you have an across the board ban like that and not only do some teachers not enforce, but neither do your admins. I've heard of these spineless admin types. Have never had the misery of working for them though. We've went through 3 principals in the past 7 years. 1st was a hardass and would back you on anything. 2 was wishy washy, but generally had your back. Last would let kids stab him in the eye if it meant mommy and daddy wouldn't call in and complain.
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Post by coachcb on May 4, 2017 14:40:27 GMT -6
Ha! I'm trying to convince our school board to completely ban all food and drinks (except for water) outside of the lunch room next year. I walk past another teacher's room and can actually hear the kids getting fatter and lazier with every crunch of the potato chips they're stuffing in their faces. Problem with across the board bans like that is you're always going to have teachers who won't enforce them. Makes a headache for those of us who do enforce the rules. We're having a serious issue with that this year. We had a rumble in the library yesterday because the librarian actually lets them use their cell-phones during study hall... The kids were texting nasty chit to one another and fists flew because of it. A table was flipped over, a laptop was chucked across the room, etc..etc.. She is an absolute idiot. several of us have already talked to the administration about banning cell phones across the board next year. They got to the moon with an abacus; the kids can get through high school without Snapchat.
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Post by gccwolverine on May 4, 2017 15:18:48 GMT -6
Oh yeah!! I had a girl show up 15 minutes late this morning with a gigantic muffin and a 24 ounce coffee. I told her to either put it in her locker of the garbage. "I woke up late! I'm starving!" "That's a Lil Suzy problem, not a Mr. Coachcb problem. Garbage or locker, your pick. You've got three minutes to figure it out." #BreakfastShaming Don't know about Lunch Shaming? Google it. It will perfectly explain why we're {censored}. Ehhhh..... A kid should be able to eat lunch and shouldn't be punished because mom or dad are unfit to make sure the lunch balance is paid up.
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Post by larrymoe on May 4, 2017 15:32:16 GMT -6
#BreakfastShaming Don't know about Lunch Shaming? Google it. It will perfectly explain why we're {censored}. Ehhhh..... A kid should be able to eat lunch and shouldn't be punished because mom or dad are unfit to make sure the lunch balance is paid up. So, who pays for that?
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Post by gccwolverine on May 4, 2017 16:36:00 GMT -6
Ehhhh..... A kid should be able to eat lunch and shouldn't be punished because mom or dad are unfit to make sure the lunch balance is paid up. So, who pays for that? We do and you know what.... I'm ok with that. It's a kid, it's not his/her fault, and they certainly can't learn or be educated when they don't know when or where their next meal is coming from. It's one of those "for the greater good" deals and this is one I'm ok with taking a hit on.
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Post by larrymoe on May 4, 2017 16:53:21 GMT -6
We do and you know what.... I'm ok with that. It's a kid, it's not his/her fault, and they certainly can't learn or be educated when they don't know when or where their next meal is coming from. It's one of those "for the greater good" deals and this is one I'm ok with taking a hit on. Ya, giving people free stuff sure has worked for the past 50 years. Let's take more of my money to support kids that aren't mine!! I'll end my hijack now.
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Post by fantom on May 4, 2017 17:37:58 GMT -6
One thing that I learned to do that kept me nearly sane during my long career was to not worry about what happens in other classrooms. I enforced all school rules, even if I didn't especially like them, but what happens in another room is not my business. Sure, kids tried, "But Mrs. ___ lets us wear hats". What's that got to do with me? I have enough problems of my own without worrying about somebody else's.
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Post by gccwolverine on May 4, 2017 17:51:36 GMT -6
We do and you know what.... I'm ok with that. It's a kid, it's not his/her fault, and they certainly can't learn or be educated when they don't know when or where their next meal is coming from. It's one of those "for the greater good" deals and this is one I'm ok with taking a hit on. Ya, giving people free stuff sure has worked for the past 50 years. Let's take more of my money to support kids that aren't mine!! I'll end my hijack now. I feel sorry for you. That when faced with hungry kids at school your thought is "that's going to cost me money and it's not my kid" and not "that's a shame let's find a way to help this kid."
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Post by Defcord on May 5, 2017 9:49:06 GMT -6
I am not trying to start a riot in here, but why do people care if someone eats in class?
These boards have been getting hot lately...end of the school year tension building up!
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Post by newt21 on May 5, 2017 9:51:28 GMT -6
I am not trying to start a riot in here, but why do people care if someone eats in class? These boards have been getting hot lately...end of the school year tension building up! Because they don't share! A hungry coach is NOT a happy coach!
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Post by Coach Vint on May 5, 2017 9:58:12 GMT -6
I am not trying to start a riot in here, but why do people care if someone eats in class? These boards have been getting hot lately...end of the school year tension building up! Because they don't share! A hungry coach is NOT a happy coach! And a hungry offensive line coach is downright angry!
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Post by Defcord on May 5, 2017 10:00:57 GMT -6
I am not trying to start a riot in here, but why do people care if someone eats in class? These boards have been getting hot lately...end of the school year tension building up! Because they don't share! A hungry coach is NOT a happy coach! Ha. I am always trying to lose weight so I am glad they don't share.
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Post by fantom on May 5, 2017 10:01:53 GMT -6
Because they don't share! A hungry coach is NOT a happy coach! And a hungry offensive line coach is downright angry! Getting hungry is a rookie problem. An experienced OL coach will ALWAYS have food stashed somewhere.
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Post by Coach Vint on May 5, 2017 10:19:12 GMT -6
And a hungry offensive line coach is downright angry! Getting hungry is a rookie problem. An experienced OL coach will ALWAYS have food stashed somewhere. That is absolute truth!
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Post by goldenbull70 on May 5, 2017 10:23:43 GMT -6
Getting hungry is a rookie problem. An experienced OL coach will ALWAYS have food stashed somewhere. That is absolute truth! Yes sir, I will second that. I have my fridge in my office and it stays stocked with Gatorade, water and a soda or two and have snacks here and there in my office. I have kids always say now coach we know you have snacks in here. I say I do and they are for me because this is like my second home. LOL!!
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Post by jgordon1 on May 5, 2017 12:18:17 GMT -6
I am not trying to start a riot in here, but why do people care if someone eats in class? These boards have been getting hot lately...end of the school year tension building up! That's what I say..If a kid is not making a mess, I don't care. Too many people are uptight. I have two rules in my class be on time and do not disrupt the learning of others
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Post by rsmith627 on May 5, 2017 12:22:57 GMT -6
I am not trying to start a riot in here, but why do people care if someone eats in class? These boards have been getting hot lately...end of the school year tension building up! That's what I say..If a kid is not making a mess, I don't care. Too many people are uptight. I have two rules in my class be on time and do not disrupt the learning of others Agree. The only time it's an issue is if you roll in late with a big bag of food, or don't clean up after yourself. I have bigger battles to fight. Also, I'll pull out a snack sometimes myself. No double standards here.
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Post by coachmonkey on May 5, 2017 12:46:08 GMT -6
One thing that I learned to do that kept me nearly sane during my long career was to not worry about what happens in other classrooms. I enforced all school rules, even if I didn't especially like them, but what happens in another room is not my business. Sure, kids tried, "But Mrs. ___ lets us wear hats". What's that got to do with me? I have enough problems of my own without worrying about somebody else's. Great teachable moment. I deal with a lot of discipline and we have a lot of students who first thing they say, "Well, so and so did whatever" and I tell them never compare yourself with so and so as that will only lead to misery and suffering in your own life. You knew the expectations and broke them. Even if every other kid in the class did to, you got nailed for breaking the clearly posted expectations. I thought it was just a kid problem, but I see adults are guilty of it too.
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Post by mkuempel on May 5, 2017 13:02:01 GMT -6
Had a teacher get frustrated with a student one time for constantly bringing in a McDonald's soda into his room. Our students are actually allowed drinks, but it has to have a "screw top" lid. Anyway, the teacher told him to throw it away, next day same thing, and same thing for the next few days. Well, after several days, the teacher noticed the student was gently placing the soda next to or in the trash can and then grabbing it on his way out. So, when the student did the same thing again, the teacher went over, hocked a loogie into it...and then gently placed it back in the trashcan! Student saw it, so no harm was done but still funny! Ha! I'm trying to convince our school board to completely ban all food and drinks (except for water) outside of the lunch room next year. I walk past another teacher's room and can actually hear the kids getting fatter and lazier with every crunch of the potato chips they're stuffing in their faces. Here is the only issue I have with food in school. We have an early morning lifting PE class, 6:30-7:30 AM each day and a Character Development and Leadership class that follows from 7:30-8:10 AM each day. I teach both, between those two classes, I encourage kids to eat food and we sell them Gatorade Protein bars and shakes for $1 each, some of these kids are in both classes and some don't bring $1 for Gatorade, but will bring Pop Tarts that they threw in their bag the night before, a PB&J sandwich, a couple yogurts, fruit, whatever, because, as a football coach I'm telling them to eat, get their three squares and as many snacks in as they can. Most of these kids have practice after school and might not eat supper until 7:30-8 PM. I understand we're probably not talking about the same students here, the kids I'm talking about aren't bringing in McDonald's ten minutes after class starts, but I think if you give them the opportunity and draw a line, it can be done. My #1 rule is, Don't do dumb things. I think most can agree showing up 10 minutes late with McDonalds is dumb, is eating a Gatorade Protein Bar and drinking a shake at 7:45 AM during class as breakfast a dumb thing to do? I understand it gets grey sometimes, but I am lenient so the kids that I want, get the food that I think they need.
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Post by carookie on May 6, 2017 15:36:44 GMT -6
I am not trying to start a riot in here, but why do people care if someone eats in class? These boards have been getting hot lately...end of the school year tension building up! Thank you. You know what I tell my students, as long as its not a massive feast and you pick up after yourself I don't care if you eat. Most just have a small snack, and if its something I like you better believe I help myself to some. The issue is many teachers don't have the classroom management skills to handle this and their classes become a mess, or the blame food as being a distraction, so we create across the board rules aimed at supporting the lowest common denominators while punishing the worst. If they can't handle food in their room thats fine, they should ban it; me I can handle it without it being a distraction...and if it were I would have no problem taking it away when needed.
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Post by silkyice on May 6, 2017 17:35:11 GMT -6
We do and you know what.... I'm ok with that. It's a kid, it's not his/her fault, and they certainly can't learn or be educated when they don't know when or where their next meal is coming from. It's one of those "for the greater good" deals and this is one I'm ok with taking a hit on. The problem is that once parents find out they don't have to pay for lunches, don't you think that a ton of them will quit paying for lunches? The problem becomes unmanageable. Also, doesn't everyone have a free and reduced lunch program? I do agree with the fact that you shouldn't shame a kid if he doesn't have lunch. Also, don't have a problem with them running a negative balance to some limit ($20-$50, whatever). If they don't have the money and their parents are just deadbeats, then shouldn't DHR get involved? Not the best solution, but if you won't feed your child... Lastly, if the lunchroom wants to let everyone eat and then sneak the kid leftovers, more power to them. And don't think I am heartless, I have bought plenty a meal for a kid. I just don't think that the school/gov't should do that, especially when we already have programs in place to help!
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Post by Defcord on May 6, 2017 18:17:04 GMT -6
We do and you know what.... I'm ok with that. It's a kid, it's not his/her fault, and they certainly can't learn or be educated when they don't know when or where their next meal is coming from. It's one of those "for the greater good" deals and this is one I'm ok with taking a hit on. The problem is that once parents find out they don't have to pay for lunches, don't you think that a ton of them will quit paying for lunches? The problem becomes unmanageable. Also, doesn't everyone have a free and reduced lunch program? I do agree with the fact that you shouldn't shame a kid if he doesn't have lunch. Also, don't have a problem with them running a negative balance to some limit ($20-$50, whatever). If they don't have the money and their parents are just deadbeats, then shouldn't DHR get involved? Not the best solution, but if you won't feed your child... Lastly, if the lunchroom wants to let everyone eat and then sneak the kid leftovers, more power to them. And don't think I am heartless, I have bought plenty a meal for a kid. I just don't think that the school/gov't should do that, especially when we already have programs in place to help! I have to say no, I don't think a ton of parents will scheme the school for a $1.50 a day free lunch if they find out a kid forgot his lunch money and got a free lunch. Maybe a few will but those kids probably need a lot more help than the free lunches their parents are sneaking for them.
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Post by Defcord on May 6, 2017 18:24:41 GMT -6
Way to much time.... The {censored} student in me would have scarfed down the muffin and chugged the drink in those 3 minutes and smiled at you. They've tried to pull that chit with me in the past. I must be the only teacher that doesn't allow anything but water in the room.. I had a student show up one day with four pop tarts and tried to hoover down all of them when I told him to take them to the locker. He was in detention with me for two hours for it. I give 5 minute detentions. Just enough to inconvienece the kid. Two hours with the shittbird is more of a punishment to me than them.
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Post by silkyice on May 6, 2017 18:35:51 GMT -6
The problem is that once parents find out they don't have to pay for lunches, don't you think that a ton of them will quit paying for lunches? The problem becomes unmanageable. Also, doesn't everyone have a free and reduced lunch program? I do agree with the fact that you shouldn't shame a kid if he doesn't have lunch. Also, don't have a problem with them running a negative balance to some limit ($20-$50, whatever). If they don't have the money and their parents are just deadbeats, then shouldn't DHR get involved? Not the best solution, but if you won't feed your child... Lastly, if the lunchroom wants to let everyone eat and then sneak the kid leftovers, more power to them. And don't think I am heartless, I have bought plenty a meal for a kid. I just don't think that the school/gov't should do that, especially when we already have programs in place to help! I have to say no, I don't think a ton of parents will scheme the school for a $1.50 a day free lunch if they find out a kid forgot his lunch money and got a free lunch. Maybe a few will but those kids probably need a lot more help than the free lunches their parents are sneaking for them. We must be talking about two different things then. Agree, if a kid gets one free lunch, parents aren't going to scheme that. I was talking about a kid who never pays and says his parents didn't give him money and got free lunch everyday. Which brings up another problem. I am a kid and my parents give me $10 for lunch that week. But I know that if I tell the lunch lady that I have no money that she will give me lunch anyways. Hmmm. Maybe I just keep that $10 every week.
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