CoachSP
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Post by CoachSP on Mar 23, 2017 10:02:18 GMT -6
The "Things that make you Rage" thread from a while back had me thinking.
I'll preface by saying that I'm a young guy in the business, and I coach freshman baseball during the spring. In baseball, it is pretty easy to disagree with a call and be quick to criticize umpires; however, in a freshman or JV game, I have been learning that it is not necessary to pick every battle (or any, for that matter). Two years ago, I thought differently and looked foolish a time or two.
The purpose is to get your young players some experience. Also, one looks stupid arguing with an umpire/official in a game that does not count. I know this is a football board (I coach Varsity Football, as well) but I figured this is something that happens in all sports. After stepping back and observing other young guys like myself, I wonder if it takes us a while to get the player mentality/hot hotheadedness/cockiness out of us. In other words, I find that we (me included) sometimes cross the line between competitive coach and cocky young guy.
I was talking to a coworker about this and pose the question to you guys: Do you guys find that young coaches struggle with no longer thinking like a player and becoming the adult in the room?
Bonus question: What are some of the other habits/mannerisms that young coaches have that gets under the skin of veteran guys?
Every day is a learning experience.
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Post by cwaltsmith on Mar 23, 2017 10:10:28 GMT -6
I think coaches over coach or think like a coach entirely too much. This is a little different than your situation and I dont wanna high jack the thread but its along the same lines. I think as coaches we try to scheme and be smart way to much. My dad has been in the box on the headset with me since I got first HC job. Its not bc hes a guru that can disect defenses or tell me where the 3 tech is. His job was to be the guy at home watching the game. He might say he stupid, your RB that is averaging 8 yds per carry hasnt ran the ball in 9 plays. Or I might be running the ball down someones throat and the coach in me thinks hey this is good time to play action (which isnt completely wrong), but he would kindly remind me to don't fix what aint broke and continue to run ball.
Agree with young guys being to knee jerk as well. A ballgame is long. 1 missed block in the 1st quarter will not decide a game
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Post by raisingcanes on Mar 23, 2017 10:32:55 GMT -6
I have been thinking about this for a couple of months now. I'm a young guy but had a couple of years where I didn't coach(LY was first year back). I can see where I was way too intense. Probably because I thought the only things that mattered were the football/baseball side of it. There were definitely times where I was way too serious and didn't give me or our players a break.
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Post by dubber on Mar 25, 2017 8:50:46 GMT -6
The fact you are thinking about this means you are maturing....
I look back on my 23 year old coaching days and cringe....kinda like when I go back and read my Huey posts from 06'
Young guys live in absolutes more, and while you can't violate your principles, things are rarely black and white.
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Post by coachklee on Mar 25, 2017 9:51:40 GMT -6
I guess I was lucky to have a limited role of coaching OL & DL & a role as Special Teams Coordinator my 1st 4 years as an 18-21 year old coach so my interactions with officials were limited.
Additionally, the next 5 years of coaching had me involved with teams that went a combined 11-32...crappy Win / Loss experience...However, I was mentored by decent coaches & learned quickly in order to survive that & keep guys motivated you have to find the positives of your players, focus on what they can do & what you can control as a coach. Rarely did an officials call ever have a real impact on the game as the score was so lopsided so we focused on coaching our guys. That's the whole focus on the process & not the outcome...this paid huge dividends as I kept learning & more importantly show a very level head when I 1st meet new players (they've remarked how I'm rarely a "yeller", especially on game day).
I won't say I was never that young, cocky 20 something coach, but in many ways I've been lucky to "move-up" gradually as I naturally matured from a rookie assistant at 18 to a varsity DC at 32.
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Post by coachbro13 on Mar 25, 2017 20:33:48 GMT -6
As a young coach, I did feel like a bad habit I had was trying to be the "know it all" at some points during the season and would get easily frustrated with coaching decisions during games. I need to work on keeping that level head.
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Post by carookie on Mar 26, 2017 10:28:00 GMT -6
One thing I did a lot as a young coach was yell and cuss. Part of it was because I didn't know any better, part of it was because most of my coaches were "yell and cuss" guys, and part of it was because I thought using foul language would help the kids relate to me more.
I'm still pretty loud, at least my assistant principal always says he can hear me over all the voices from his office, but its more because I am loud and enthusiastic. Luckily I grew out of the yell and cuss stuff pretty quick.
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Post by **** on Mar 26, 2017 14:54:19 GMT -6
I've seen 50 year old men rip officials and look like phukin idiots.
It's not just young guys.
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