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Post by famar on Mar 19, 2017 21:57:05 GMT -6
I coach in a state that doesn't allow for Spring Football. I wanted to know, for you guys that do have it, how do you manage to do it with your multi-sport athletes? What time frame (what month or months) does it cover?
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Post by Coachbragg on Mar 19, 2017 23:21:00 GMT -6
I coach in a state that doesn't allow for Spring Football. I wanted to know, for you guys that do have it, how do you manage to do it with your multi-sport athletes? What time frame (what month or months) does it cover? In Oregon, our "Spring Ball" isn't allowed until the day after Memorial Day. Unfortunately, it's also the first day allowed for all sports and June in Oregon is when summer basketball is played. I'm at a small school where everyone plays every sport (I encourage it) so it comes down to do I make the kids do double duty during June or just wait until July? Neither option is great, just try to make the best of the situation. I've tried to just stick to weight training until basketball is over but very few kids believe you can lift and not "mess up your shot".
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Post by realdawg on Mar 20, 2017 5:45:46 GMT -6
In NC this year we were given the option of unlimited days with limited numbers of players (21) beginning April 1st or 10 days with unlimited numbers after spring sports regular season is over. Neither can be made "mandatory." We choose the 10 days for several reasons. Number 1 it encourages our players to play baseball or run track (they are in the Wt room during the school day). And we have several key players doing that. Number 2 all of our coaches in the building are coaching a spring sport except our HC. Number 3. We like the feeling of it being like a real practice and the continuity of getting 10 consecutive days. In neither option is body to body contact allowed.
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Post by jg78 on Mar 20, 2017 9:25:46 GMT -6
We usually have a 2-3 week gap between the end of spring sports and the end of the school year. Gives us some time to get a few practices in.
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Post by goldenbull70 on Mar 20, 2017 10:10:03 GMT -6
In NC this year we were given the option of unlimited days with limited numbers of players (21) beginning April 1st or 10 days with unlimited numbers after spring sports regular season is over. Neither can be made "mandatory." We choose the 10 days for several reasons. Number 1 it encourages our players to play baseball or run track (they are in the Wt room during the school day). And we have several key players doing that. Number 2 all of our coaches in the building are coaching a spring sport except our HC. Number 3. We like the feeling of it being like a real practice and the continuity of getting 10 consecutive days. In neither option is body to body contact allowed. Also in NC and this pretty much describes us as well except for number 2, just the head coach, myself and one other coach are in the building, most guys are at middle schools, or working other jobs so we figured it would be easier to get them all here for the 10 days.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Mar 20, 2017 11:19:45 GMT -6
I coach in a state that doesn't allow for Spring Football. I wanted to know, for you guys that do have it, how do you manage to do it with your multi-sport athletes? What time frame (what month or months) does it cover? Here, you can't start "official" spring ball till all the spring sports your school participates in are over. Now when I was in school, we started "spring" ball, helmets only. On May 1st, went 2:15-3:15 during the athletic period, no special teams, really some indo and team against shields. I actually don't think we were suppose to use shields but we were in bfe so nobody cared.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Mar 20, 2017 11:26:44 GMT -6
And if u ran track, u just missed a week of it, 2 weeks if you qualified for state .
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Post by rosey65 on Mar 22, 2017 6:14:29 GMT -6
In FL, it goes almost year-round. We have a month of sanctioned, full-pad practice in May, culminating in a live game before the end of the school year. I think baseball is the only sport going on once spring ball starts, we dont have more than 1 or 2 kids who play, and baseball takes priority.
We start spring workouts around the 1st week of february, primarily focusing on weight lifting and 7-on-7. We have a few kids in wrestling and basketball, so they miss a week or two. Most of our skill kids are pushed, by us, to run track. They get their lifting in once track practice is over. We schedule our 7-on-7 games around the track meets. It really isn't a big deal. We work to accomodate, and it helps teaches the kids to be flexible with their time.
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Post by veerwego on Mar 22, 2017 7:08:21 GMT -6
In SC, we have spring practice in May. 10 days in pads, but can have other days without. Lacrosse is over at the end of April, so we only have issues with attendance if your baseball team makes a strong playoff run or you have individuals that qualify for the upper or lower state track meets and then the subsequent state meet a week later. This also can be an issues for two-sport coaches. 8th graders (rising 9th) cannot participate against the varsity kids so unless you have a 9th grade staff, they do not get much done (some come watch the older kids practice, after the first 3 days of no pads practices).
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 23, 2017 7:44:06 GMT -6
In SC, we have spring practice in May. 10 days in pads, but can have other days without. Lacrosse is over at the end of April, so we only have issues with attendance if your baseball team makes a strong playoff run or you have individuals that qualify for the upper or lower state track meets and then the subsequent state meet a week later. This also can be an issues for two-sport coaches. 8th graders (rising 9th) cannot participate against the varsity kids so unless you have a 9th grade staff, they do not get much done (some come watch the older kids practice, after the first 3 days of no pads practices). Middle school kids (7th/8th) can't do anything contact practicing in the spring. They also can't participate in ANY drills with high school age kids.
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 23, 2017 19:59:13 GMT -6
Since nobody's brought it up, can I assume none of your fall interscholastic players play club football on some team in the spring?
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Post by fugulookinat on Mar 23, 2017 20:05:29 GMT -6
No club football in Texas. Only Class 6A and 5A schools are allowed to have padded spring practices. Most schools wait until the beginning of May to start spring ball to allow for track and baseball to get through their district competitions.
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 23, 2017 20:11:59 GMT -6
I coach in a state that doesn't allow for Spring Football. I wanted to know, for you guys that do have it, how do you manage to do it with your multi-sport athletes? What time frame (what month or months) does it cover? We have just about the whole month of May, to decide when we want to do 10 days of spring ball we typically push it as late as we can i dont like to do things on fridays so we usually go Mon-Thurs 4 practices Mon-Thurs 4 practices Memorial day... then tues and wed that week to make 10 total We usually get the baseball guys back out that second full week the weaker track kids after memorial day and the better track kids who keep qualifying try to come out and practice a little at the end of their track practice last year we had a great 4x100 team and they all quit on the track coach (no one could stand him) other years he had let football kids come out and participate in spring ball as long as they did their track stuff first (they barely practiced... 3 days a week max, and super short practices) last year he decided he would forbid them from coming to spring ball they called his bluff and said bye i got called in to principals office, was told i cant let those specific boys practice until their season was over i said ok, i explained it to the boys, they sat out 1 more practice qualifying meet was the next day, they didnt show up so they didnt qualify and they practiced football the next day ugly situation and not ideal, not a fan of quitting but i didnt like the way their old coach handled it they werent missing track to do football, he wanted them to just sit there...oh also, they werent allowed to go to tutoring or study hall after school or make up school work
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Post by 44dlcoach on Mar 23, 2017 21:33:47 GMT -6
My old place put a rule in that if you didn't finish a season you weren't allowed to go to any "off season" practices for the next sport until the official start. So like if a kid quit football he wasn't allowed to go to any open gyms for basketball ow wrestling until football season ended.
That said we don't start our 10 days of spring practice until after the state championships of track and baseball so kids aren't in a position of having to pick between the two.
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Post by coachklee on Mar 24, 2017 5:34:40 GMT -6
I coach in a state that doesn't allow for Spring Football. I wanted to know, for you guys that do have it, how do you manage to do it with your multi-sport athletes? What time frame (what month or months) does it cover? We have just about the whole month of May, to decide when we want to do 10 days of spring ball we typically push it as late as we can i dont like to do things on fridays so we usually go Mon-Thurs 4 practices Mon-Thurs 4 practices Memorial day... then tues and wed that week to make 10 total We usually get the baseball guys back out that second full week the weaker track kids after memorial day and the better track kids who keep qualifying try to come out and practice a little at the end of their track practice last year we had a great 4x100 team and they all quit on the track coach (no one could stand him) other years he had let football kids come out and participate in spring ball as long as they did their track stuff first (they barely practiced... 3 days a week max, and super short practices) last year he decided he would forbid them from coming to spring ball they called his bluff and said bye i got called in to principals office, was told i cant let those specific boys practice until their season was over i said ok, i explained it to the boys, they sat out 1 more practice qualifying meet was the next day, they didnt show up so they didnt qualify and they practiced football the next day ugly situation and not ideal, not a fan of quitting but i didnt like the way their old coach handled it they werent missing track to do football, he wanted them to just sit there...oh also, they werent allowed to go to tutoring or study hall after school or make up school work So that's BS by the track coach & the admin! Where's the F those guys button?!?
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 24, 2017 8:47:30 GMT -6
No club football in Texas. In all of Texas? I think an inquiry via the American Football Association would turn up some. Most of them would be for younger or older players, but I'm sure many would be of the age range being discussed here, and of them a good proportion in the spring. One of the NFL replacement officials in 2012 was said to also officiate HS club football in Texas. A 2014 post by GoLobos included "the Spring leagues that are popping up in the larger areas of the state. While not necessarily Varsity players, JV and below are playing games throughout the Spring". And that's just from Googling "club football in Texas".
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Post by fugulookinat on Mar 26, 2017 21:21:25 GMT -6
No club football in Texas. In all of Texas? I think an inquiry via the American Football Association would turn up some. Most of them would be for younger or older players, but I'm sure many would be of the age range being discussed here, and of them a good proportion in the spring. One of the NFL replacement officials in 2012 was said to also officiate HS club football in Texas. A 2014 post by GoLobos included "the Spring leagues that are popping up in the larger areas of the state. While not necessarily Varsity players, JV and below are playing games throughout the Spring". And that's just from Googling "club football in Texas". Youth leagues, 6 yr olds thru 12 yr olds. Small schools don't have enough players to have a team, and large schools go through spring ball. I don't know of a single town or school that has club football. Some have club "Futbol" , but no pigskin.
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Post by coachdawhip on Mar 26, 2017 21:27:19 GMT -6
GA 13 days to have 10 practices. Padded and No padded any time with a ball counts. Spring Game.
It depends on how good ur track team, baseball and soccer team is. Could start in feb have until last day of school 2 be done.
Our track team is the depending state champs, so my QB, star DB and others will miss the 1st 5 practices most likely.
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 26, 2017 23:40:40 GMT -6
GA 13 days to have 10 practices. Padded and No padded any time with a ball counts. Spring Game. It depends on how good ur track team, baseball and soccer team is. Could start in feb have until last day of school 2 be done. Our track team is the depending state champs, so my QB, star DB and others will miss the 1st 5 practices most likely. Good problem to have!
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Post by macdiiddy on Mar 27, 2017 10:20:02 GMT -6
No club football in Texas. Only Class 6A and 5A schools are allowed to have padded spring practices. Most schools wait until the beginning of May to start spring ball to allow for track and baseball to get through their district competitions. Just out of curiosity, what is the logic in only allowing big schools the advantage of having padded practices in the spring? Doesn't seem very equitable.
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Post by fugulookinat on Mar 27, 2017 18:36:41 GMT -6
No clue....... I've coached both in large (5A/6A) districts as well as 2A districts. I'm not sure what the logic is, other than the conflict between spring ball and Baseball for the smaller schools. Baseball season doesn't end in Texas until June. This would pull kids out of baseball and into spring ball in many of the smaller schools. Larger schools have fewer athletes that are participating in both sports. My best guess.
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 27, 2017 21:31:30 GMT -6
In all of Texas? I think an inquiry via the American Football Association would turn up some. Most of them would be for younger or older players, but I'm sure many would be of the age range being discussed here, and of them a good proportion in the spring. One of the NFL replacement officials in 2012 was said to also officiate HS club football in Texas. A 2014 post by GoLobos included "the Spring leagues that are popping up in the larger areas of the state. While not necessarily Varsity players, JV and below are playing games throughout the Spring". And that's just from Googling "club football in Texas". Small schools don't have enough players to have a team, But that's where I'd expect players from 2 or more schools to form a club team. If that's not happening in Texas at JV at least, what was GoLobos writing about? Was it a phenomenon that came & went in a year or two?
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 28, 2017 9:26:22 GMT -6
april 24th first day of spring ball in florida. 20 official practices 5 days of adjustment to pads, just like fall practice. no contact. 20th day is normally a spring game. ive seen guys do mon/tues/thurs/friday(we have early day in many parts in florida-kids get out an hour earlier,for teacher meetings, etc). ive seen guys do mon-thursday, no fridays, the 4 days a week thing teams get an extra few days after spring game, or they play their spring game later. like after memorial day. ive also seen teams go 10 practices and play as early as possible. not sure why,
in terms of sports, track state finals are the first weekend in may, usually. baseball state finals are around week 2 in may.
track kids mostly play football, baseball not so much.
7 on 7 is now the way teams are getting away with coaching football in the offseason. it is semi sanctioned in the state. pay some money for kids and coaches and now the football comes out in january and they can work on "7 on 7" skills legally and under the guise of fhsaa. alot of guys do it anyways, but this is the right way to do it and not catch the fine from the state.
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Post by coachddwebb on Mar 28, 2017 10:00:13 GMT -6
In Arizona the number of days change just about every year from 15 days to 18 days. We start spring practice the beginning of May and end sometimes before finals the end of May. This year we have 18 days, so May 1 to May 19, from 4:15-6:15pm. The guys that are in track will miss days because of meets but that is about it.
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