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Post by coachb5806 on Mar 8, 2017 11:59:54 GMT -6
Here's another thought.......ever give your kids a day off? Like on a Tuesday? We did once. it was our 2nd year here. We were 0-2 in our league, had played #1 and #2 in league the previous 2 weeks. We really needed to win the last 2 league games. Our kids were spent. We drug through our Wednesday practice. I pulled our staff aside and we decided to give them Thursday completely off, no morning session (we go before school at 6:45 on-thurs in season). Told the kids see you Friday at 4:30. We came out and won 47-13. We played very, very well. I think that little recharge for our kids in that situation was great. That being said, I love what was previously mentioned about in season practices. We practice in season to get ready for Friday. We plan out practice for the entire week in our Saturday meetings. For us, practice is essential. We go 3:30 to 6. As the season progresses, and we have less to refine, we try to get them out by 5:30. But our kids and parents know not to expect anything before 6.
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Post by blb on Mar 8, 2017 12:00:16 GMT -6
I impressed the importance of practice upon our kids by telling them that I knew we would have some bad practices during the season, but it wasn't going to be today, because we were going to get two good hours of practice in even if it took us six.
That seemed to have a positive effect on their concentration and effort.
We also told them that if it wasn't important we wouldn't be doing it, and the most important thing in the program was whatever we were doing at the time.
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Post by eaglemountie on Mar 20, 2017 8:05:27 GMT -6
I think the thought that a single practice or a couple of select practices throughout the season will not make you exponentially better but the difference in a team that has good practices and practice habits from week 1 to week 10 is easy to see.
I'd definitely take my chances with the lesser talented team that practiced its tail off all year in week 10 vs a more talented squad that went through the motions...
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Post by eaglemountie on Mar 20, 2017 8:13:54 GMT -6
Here's another thought.......ever give your kids a day off? Like on a Tuesday? We gave them that incentive once on the deal that they won the Friday night before...
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Mar 21, 2017 4:29:57 GMT -6
What I think is useless is practice where coaches and kids are standing around scratching their balls, no purpose, things not really being accomplished. I'd agree that those practices have no benefit and the argument could be made that they're actually a detriment. That said, this past year we played a team from a ghetto area that has ATHLETES. I knew nothing about them until they walked out onto the field and I thought, "We're about to witness a massacre." They had 28 kids and only one of them was not athletic, although he was 6'6", 340 lb jelly roll. The rest looked like they were straight out of the combine or an Under Armour advertisement. One of the other assistants looked at me and said, "I hope all of our kids went to Mass today." As their backs & receivers warmed up I thought they were going to air attack & hang 100 on us. But once the game started, after 3 plays it was, "This is a joke and a waste of our time." The other team was so poorly coached that they were just awful. Their kids were just terrible. After the game I spoke to their AD who said that the coach had a hard time getting kids to practice every day so they only practice 3 days a week. It's funny because here in MO, we had a team just like that almost overthrow the best program in the state for the state title! It's all about personnel IMO. If you have 3-4 legit D1 guys on your team (like these guys) and you're playing against a bunch of 2A farm kids (like they played against), you're gonna look like a genius every Friday night.
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Post by famar on Mar 21, 2017 13:45:38 GMT -6
Did somebody say practice?
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Post by benloe on Mar 21, 2017 14:36:37 GMT -6
Organized, diciplined football teams are hard to beat. I'm guessing most of them practice rather effectively.
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Post by s73 on Mar 21, 2017 17:20:19 GMT -6
I think my favorite mantra of all time when it comes to coaching football is "Work smarter, not harder".
I have tried to embody this philosophy in my coaching for as long as I have been a coach.
I try to mainstream techniques as much as possible, mass teach whenever we can, and cut as much fat as possible from our playbook/ practices. I think this has been very good to us and has helped us to make the most of what we have.
JMO.
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Post by s73 on Mar 21, 2017 17:30:37 GMT -6
Here's another thought.......ever give your kids a day off? Like on a Tuesday? I would never do this for 2 reasons (not saying it's wrong, just not for me). 1 - I think it's hard to go a day, then take a layoff & then go a day again & expect kids to be sharp due to the lack of cohesion of practicing every other day. JMO. 2 - What if a kid is sick? He practices Monday gets Tuesday off is sick Wednesday now he's at walkthroughs? I think that would be a pretty tense deal for me. Always crossing my fingers on that one. Just makes practices almost "unmissable" if that's even word. Again, JMO.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 22, 2017 8:46:47 GMT -6
I'll agree to the theme of the thread but I will offer another consideration; perception is reality.
This can be manifested on 2 different fronts: from within the program and from without.
A practice that is 1:40 or one that is 2:40 can feel both too short/rushed and too long. As mentioned, it all depends on the efficiency of how the practice is structured and run. When looking for when the end point of practice should be, find that period/time where both the kids and coaches lose focus. Also look for periods/times where tempo of practice slows with the express purpose being to slow down. Then cut those periods/times out.
The other side of the spectrum to consider is where are the expectation levels from the OUTSIDE in terms how much practice time is necessary. If you're chasing the Jones and the Jones are perceived to be doing more work than you, then you better have a compelling reason and that reason better be producing results. I have personally witnessed a couple of programs that were very successful, championship successful, have coaches end up in the hot seat because it was perceived that they didn't work as has and the program next door.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 22, 2017 9:13:12 GMT -6
dang i need a secretary
that would be 'withOUT the express purpose to slow down'
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Post by cwaltsmith on Mar 22, 2017 9:32:18 GMT -6
I impressed the importance of practice upon our kids by telling them that I knew we would have some bad practices during the season, but it wasn't going to be today, because we were going to get two good hours of practice in even if it took us six.
That seemed to have a positive effect on their concentration and effort.
We also told them that if it wasn't important we wouldn't be doing it, and the most important thing in the program was whatever we were doing at the time. I wonder how many practices would change if this was truely every coaches outlook. I think it should be!... It seems alot of times that coaches conduct practice like its always been conducted simply bc thats the ways its always been done. Whatever is the most important thing should be worked on until you as the coach are satisfied and then move on down the line. I think practices would change drastically if more coaches would take this approach
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