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Post by husky44 on Mar 4, 2017 14:46:44 GMT -6
Coaches,
So I have been meeting this off season with those players who are returning next year and a theme is starting to emerge when I ask them a couple of questions about how to improve our practices. The kids are asking that we create more opportunities to compete. We do a a number of different things but obviously it is not enough.
1. 3rd down situation - 10 plays from various distances and out offense must make 6 of 10 first downs or they have some running. We put our next best players on defense.
2. On the 10 yard line and 3 or 4 downs to score. We put twelve on defense.
3. Once a week on Wed. at the end of practice we take 10 minutes to have our coaches create some type of competition - winners don't condition. Relays, strength tests, you name it.
I would love to get some more ideas from others about ways to generate more competition. Let's compile a list.
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 4, 2017 17:51:14 GMT -6
something i have been thinking about more and more
going to essentially score everything and have a winner and loser for everything
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Post by husky44 on Mar 4, 2017 18:18:06 GMT -6
something i have been thinking about more and more going to essentially score everything and have a winner and loser for everything So how would you do that? What examples can you come up with? |
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 4, 2017 18:22:51 GMT -6
something i have been thinking about more and more going to essentially score everything and have a winner and loser for everything So how would you do that? What examples can you come up with? Scoring Drills cant do this for skill acquisition by skill acquisition i mean learning new skills or fine tuning previously learned ones... this would be done at a slower pace... often with no opponent at all, or a controlled opponent... you are still doing so much teaching now when your player has the chance to DEMONSTRATE knowledge/skill that is when you can make a drill competitive and then keep score i coach OL, so with that example... working Steps i wouldnt score it if i add a defender and control the defender... wouldnt score it if i add a defender, and want the defender to go live now i can score it Drills done at full speed against a defender can be scored... they are applying it under game like situations inside run... scored winner or loser 1on1 or group pass pro... scored winner and loser you can make up whatever criteria you want for what constitutes a win for the O or a win for the D |
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 4, 2017 19:10:17 GMT -6
Here's what I try to do
I think every drill and every down can be a competition if the environment is created by the coaches i.e., hyping it up (my guys versus your guys, O vs D, OL vs DL, etc.). In other words, its not like coaches say "Ok this drill involves no competition, don't try your hardest!"
Think of kids prior into getting into a schoolyard fight. Other kids "hype" up the fight (so and so is going to fight at lunch) and it creates anticipation, excitement, suspense. Of course the fight hardly lives up to expectation but pre-fight, everyone wants to see it.
Real life example, Pacquiao and Mayweather, $100 million generated by promoters saying my guy is going to kick your guys ass etc.
I think coaches can utilize the same promoter-like mentality and really get kids competing every drill and every down! Of course this would mean I couldn't just wear my visor and keep my whistle in my mouth, I'd actually have to coach lol
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Post by CoachMcKie on Mar 6, 2017 8:11:39 GMT -6
We keep score in our inside period, team period, one on one period, and our team blitz period. This keeps the kids from going through the motions and makes each period fun and exciting. The losing team has to do 25 push ups at the end of the period.
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Post by jtimmerman53 on Mar 6, 2017 8:44:17 GMT -6
One thing that I love that I saw from I think the University of Houston was on Wednesday or Thursday they gather everyone around in a big circle and the coaches call out an offensive guy and defensive guy of equal size/strength/ability. The two guys basically go one on one who can put the other on their back and the winning side gets to keep this WWE type championship belt and carry it around at practice or school or even on the sidelines for games.
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Post by rosey65 on Mar 6, 2017 8:50:10 GMT -6
We platoon, so everything is inherently competitive. "'__side of the ball__' got you @$$ kicked this rep/drill/practice." We dont do much besides a constant attention to detail. We hype big plays, big hits, turnovers, pancakes...the usual stuff that gets hyped in a game. Coaches are talking trash, DB coaches running down field with INT's, OL coach running out and sarcastically brushing off a DL who got put on his back....we are pretty loose during team.
You dont score plays in a game, you dont score drives, or quarters, or even games. You execute every play, to the best of each persons ability, and the "score" handles itself.
The only thing we actually "score" is a "goal-to-go" scenario we run 2 or 3 times a week, and the loser has conditioning.
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Post by aceback76 on Mar 6, 2017 10:04:55 GMT -6
Coaches, So I have been meeting this off season with those players who are returning next year and a theme is starting to emerge when I ask them a couple of questions about how to improve our practices. The kids are asking that we create more opportunities to compete. We do a a number of different things but obviously it is not enough. 1. 3rd down situation - 10 plays from various distances and out offense must make 6 of 10 first downs or they have some running. We put our next best players on defense. 2. On the 10 yard line and 3 or 4 downs to score. We put twelve on defense. 3. Once a week on Wed. at the end of practice we take 10 minutes to have our coaches create some type of competition - winners don't condition. Relays, strength tests, you name it. I would love to get some more ideas from others about ways to generate more competition. Let's compile a list. Try the famous Bama "Challenge Drills" when players can challenge a starter for his position in some kind of "head-to-head" competition (depending on position). You can use your imagination to come up with the various "situations"! Note: We did a LOT of this with OLM & DLM, et. |
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Post by newt21 on Mar 6, 2017 10:20:39 GMT -6
We're a middle school team and we're a one-platoon team (players play both ways). Every Friday (game days are Wednesdays) for the last 20 or so minutes of practice we split our team into two "teams" and they scrimmage each other. The QB calls the offense (I'm there if they have a question as to what they should run, but I make them call it and they have to justify it more than "I think it'll work") and the defense runs our base defense. It's normally 10 and in or 20 to score. If the offense scores the defense (whole side) owes the offense 10 push ups and vice versa. Kids now look forward to practicing on Friday and it's not just a barrier between them and the weekend.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 6, 2017 10:41:09 GMT -6
2. We put twelve on defense. This happened alot to me at all times on scout defense the last two years. never seen so much 8 man front with two high safeties. |
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Post by macdiiddy on Mar 6, 2017 12:04:09 GMT -6
As far as individuals go, when we are trying to practice our skills and work on reading and defeating a block, and the effort starts to drop, I will simply add 5 pushups/updowns/situps.
Anything really.
It doesnt have to be a, I am going to run you into the ground because you suck mentality, but just a little short "punishment" for getting reached, or as the offensive lineman, not reaching the DL. This is easy and it goes a long way.
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Post by macdiiddy on Mar 6, 2017 12:05:03 GMT -6
2. We put twelve on defense. This happened alot to me at all times on scout defense the last two years. never seen so much 8 man front with two high safeties. No better defense then the 4-4-4 |
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Post by brophy on Mar 6, 2017 12:28:17 GMT -6
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Post by mbianco on Mar 6, 2017 20:14:08 GMT -6
We keep score in our inside period, team period, one on one period, and our team blitz period. This keeps the kids from going through the motions and makes each period fun and exciting. The losing team has to do 25 push ups at the end of the period. This is something I would like to do more of. Could you go into the details of how you do this? |
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Post by benloe on Mar 7, 2017 8:48:02 GMT -6
Offense vs. Defense
Offensive position Group vs. defensive position Group
Starter vs. back-up.
Team vs. coaches can be fun... "if the lineman catches the coach's punt, practice is over. If he doesn't, a cardio workout begins.
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Post by CoachMcKie on Mar 7, 2017 10:27:25 GMT -6
We keep score in our inside period, team period, one on one period, and our team blitz period. This keeps the kids from going through the motions and makes each period fun and exciting. The losing team has to do 25 push ups at the end of the period. This is something I would like to do more of. Could you go into the details of how you do this? Sure. We aren't that smart so we keep things simple. The offense has to get five yards i n inside period. If they get five yards then they get a point. If the defense stops them then they get a point. If the defense causes a fumble then they get five points. We have a coach keep track during the period. Losing side has push ups. For team the points go like this: Offense gets points for 5 yards rushing, +10 yards passing, +20 points scoring. Defense gets points for +5 for keeping rushing yards under 2, +5 for sack, +5 for pass break up, +10 for interception, +10 for fumble, +20 for scoring You can set the points and yardage however you like. We like to set the yardage higher for the offense because we want them to try for extra yardage. |
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Post by seabass on Mar 7, 2017 11:31:31 GMT -6
I think player's appreciate things being scored (when possible) because they want a clear cut winner or loser. Especially those guys that are on the bubble of being a 1 or 2. Scores aren't subjective. The score forces everyone to recognize the outcome.
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 7, 2017 18:43:52 GMT -6
I think player's appreciate things being scored (when possible) because they want a clear cut winner or loser. Especially those guys that are on the bubble of being a 1 or 2. Scores aren't subjective. The score forces everyone to recognize the outcome. This reminds me of a cheer competition I had to go watch, (gf is a coach and wanted me to record) her team literally was the last one to "perform" and by then, I'm pretty sure judges were mentally exhausted by then after numerous routines (pretty big disadvantage) I left the place thinking "Where's the defense?" No defense = not a real sport! |
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