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Post by aceback76 on Feb 28, 2017 19:14:06 GMT -6
You can find the Cool Clinic Lecture notes from 2012 & 2014 from Earl Browning:
Earl Browning
earl.browning@twc.com
502-425-2937
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Post by caleb59seal on Feb 28, 2017 21:21:05 GMT -6
You can find the Cool Clinic Lecture notes from 2012 & 2014 from Earl Browning: Earl Browning earl.browning@twc.com 502-425-2937 Thank you I just emailed him.
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Post by spreadattack on Mar 1, 2017 8:20:20 GMT -6
Not easy to find but you can find playbooks from some of Belichick's defensive coordinators shortly after they left NE (like Eric Mangini, Romeo Crennel, etc) and you see basically the same framework/calls/etc. Also Saban's playbooks have evolved but there is a lot of Belichick overlap in terms of terminology, structure, calls and philosophy. Give or take 60-70% of what Saban does is the same as Belichick's defenses; he's just evolved it since. And excellent point from fantom about Belichick coaching his coaches. It's been posted here before but there was a good article on how he hires young coaches to start out, and that's often the pool he ends up hiring position coaches and ultimately coordinators from. www.masslive.com/patriots/index.ssf/2016/12/bill_belichick_patriots_coachi.html
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Post by caleb59seal on Mar 1, 2017 14:55:16 GMT -6
Not easy to find but you can find playbooks from some of Belichick's defensive coordinators shortly after they left NE (like Eric Mangini, Romeo Crennel, etc) and you see basically the same framework/calls/etc. Also Saban's playbooks have evolved but there is a lot of Belichick overlap in terms of terminology, structure, calls and philosophy. Give or take 60-70% of what Saban does is the same as Belichick's defenses; he's just evolved it since. And excellent point from fantom about Belichick coaching his coaches. It's been posted here before but there was a good article on how he hires young coaches to start out, and that's often the pool he ends up hiring position coaches and ultimately coordinators from. www.masslive.com/patriots/index.ssf/2016/12/bill_belichick_patriots_coachi.htmlI have always have thought it's scouting that super eaters them... Sounds like I need to learn how to scout... Do you know of any books that would help or general methods used. It sounded like BB has an extensive scouting reports...
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Post by karjaw on Mar 2, 2017 6:48:03 GMT -6
Coaches Two years ago I was speaking at a clinic and when I finished I was having a conversation with the creator of the clinic and I looked above me and I saw these coaches going into a small room. I asked the creator what was that all about and he began to tell me that he has connections to the Belicheck and that once a year BB coaches get together at his college and meet and discuss football. I asked if I could sit in on their discussions and he told me Yes. I went upstairs and took a place at a desk in a small classroom and sat and listened to each one of them talk. There was only 7 of us in the room and they started the day with defense. 1 by 1 they would get up and share information. Each Coach had worked for or is currently working for BB and spoke on a topic and the others would sit and discuss.
The defensive scheme stuff they were discussing was stuff I NEVER HEARD BEFORE. Items discussed: Peyton manning attack
Joe Flacco attack
Designing blitzes based on post snap actions Etc.
I began to write furiously and no one said a word until BB defensive backs Coach saw me writing like crazy. He said: "Who are you?" I told him who I was and who let me come up here. He said: "You can stay, but no notebook" He came over to me and took the notebook from me. now I was in this room with just my memory. He began to go over how BB chooses his players and what he does with his rookies. He had a top 10 list for qualities: This is what I could remember from that list: 1. Football IQ 2. Character 3. Work ethic All the way to 10 and what I do remember was not one of the 10 qualities had to do with Athleticism. When I asked him why his response was "because all of them are athletic at our level. We want the ones who know football and we do not have to teach them. If they can not learn a concept in one shot then their gone." He then went into an example with Willie McGinnest and hiw they were in one of the superbowls and getting killed because the offense did something that they did not prepare for and it was Willie who made the adjustments on the fly and came over to the DC and said we got them now we made the adjustment and he said people think it is us Coaches, but it was Willie who did it.
He then went on Tom Brady and BB: 1. First RB meeting BB comes in and says I want you all to meet "God" and BB points to TB. -He is everything and you only mean something to me if you can protect GOD. -I can get anyone to run the ball, but if you Cannot protect God your gone.
2. Told all of the Rookies that if you think your going to make the team as a starter think again. Special Teams is where your going to make it. So start kissing up to that Coach. They went on and on and on. Here is what I discovered: -This was the best clinic I have ever been to and we use all of the defensive stuff they discussed and offensive stuff they discussed and the best part it was not exclusive to one type of offense or defense. It was things that could be done with all schemes. -if FB IQ is number one on their list then it had better be number one on mine and we have seen our kids performance go through the roof with this. -Mental training stuff they shared was incredible..if you saw it you would understand why they won this year's superbowls. -BB also believes that if your best athlete is your hardest worker your in great shape to win. -Patriots never had any of their players out work their contracts as soon as they to they get rid of them. Just some thoughts Coach Wright
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Post by caleb59seal on Mar 2, 2017 8:04:58 GMT -6
Coaches Two years ago I was speaking at a clinic and when I finished I was having a conversation with the creator of the clinic and I looked above me and I saw these coaches going into a small room. I asked the creator what was that all about and he began to tell me that he has connections to the Belicheck and that once a year BB coaches get together at his college and meet and discuss football. I asked if I could sit in on their discussions and he told me Yes. I went upstairs and took a place at a desk in a small classroom and sat and listened to each one of them talk. There was only 7 of us in the room and they started the day with defense. 1 by 1 they would get up and share information. Each Coach had worked for or is currently working for BB and spoke on a topic and the others would sit and discuss. The defensive scheme stuff they were discussing was stuff I NEVER HEARD BEFORE. Items discussed: Peyton manning attack Joe Flacco attack Designing blitzes based on post snap actions Etc. I began to write furiously and no one said a word until BB defensive backs Coach saw me writing like crazy. He said: "Who are you?" I told him who I was and who let me come up here. He said: "You can stay, but no notebook" He came over to me and took the notebook from me. now I was in this room with just my memory. He began to go over how BB chooses his players and what he does with his rookies. He had a top 10 list for qualities: This is what I could remember from that list: 1. Football IQ 2. Character 3. Work ethic All the way to 10 and what I do remember was not one of the 10 qualities had to do with Athleticism. When I asked him why his response was "because all of them are athletic at our level. We want the ones who know football and we do not have to teach them. If they can not learn a concept in one shot then their gone." He then went into an example with Willie McGinnest and hiw they were in one of the superbowls and getting killed because the offense did something that they did not prepare for and it was Willie who made the adjustments on the fly and came over to the DC and said we got them now we made the adjustment and he said people think it is us Coaches, but it was Willie who did it. He then went on Tom Brady and BB: 1. First RB meeting BB comes in and says I want you all to meet "God" and BB points to TB. -He is everything and you only mean something to me if you can protect GOD. -I can get anyone to run the ball, but if you Cannot protect God your gone. 2. Told all of the Rookies that if you think your going to make the team as a starter think again. Special Teams is where your going to make it. So start kissing up to that Coach. They went on and on and on. Here is what I discovered: -This was the best clinic I have ever been to and we use all of the defensive stuff they discussed and offensive stuff they discussed and the best part it was not exclusive to one type of offense or defense. It was things that could be done with all schemes. -if FB IQ is number one on their list then it had better be number one on mine and we have seen our kids performance go through the roof with this. -Mental training stuff they shared was incredible..if you saw it you would understand why they won this year's superbowls. -BB also believes that if your best athlete is your hardest worker your in great shape to win. -Patriots never had any of their players out work their contracts as soon as they to they get rid of them. Just some thoughts Coach Wright I would love to know what offense and defense stuff you use from that meeting...
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Post by spreadattack on Mar 2, 2017 13:07:11 GMT -6
That's a pretty good story. Would love if some of those details could be posted.
Only other thing I'd add is OL coach Scarnecchia had a great anecdote from one of his clinics. Shows the group a one-back set, DL in an over front alignment to the tight-end, says you are in 6-man protection. Then shows the Mike walking down to mug the playside A gap, looking like he's going to blitz. Then he asks the group how they'd deal with it. A couple of coaches say they'd half slide it, some say full slide and put the RB on the playside DE, others say they'd flip the protection to the tight-end side and half slide that way, some others talk about base blocking it and having guys combo. Then he took a survey and had coaches raise their hands -- some raised their hands for slide protection, some for man and moving the RB up, etc.
Then Scarnecchia said, "It doesn't matter which one of those you choose. They all can work, they all have problems. The important thing is when that Mike walks up into the A gap every guy on the field and every guy on the sideline too knows exactly what you're going to do and how you're going to block it."
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Post by jg78 on Mar 5, 2017 9:43:09 GMT -6
I have plenty of respect for Belichick, but I'm anxious to see how he does when Brady retires.
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Post by jg78 on Mar 5, 2017 9:54:19 GMT -6
I think this is an awesome example of a great coaching philosophy. There are a bunch of sound ways to play football. But it's what the players know and execute that matters. When your QB is on his a$$ it doesn't make any difference that your RG should have protected the A gap instead of the B gap.
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Post by joe83843 on Mar 5, 2017 22:26:53 GMT -6
I'll do my best to answer both questions, though I can answer your first better than your second. Also, a large chunk of this info. is found in "The Education of a Coach." Read that book if you haven't. It's worth your time.
I know xs and os wise both Alabama and the Pats have had a huge number of interceptions/pick 6 type plays compared to a lot of teams the last 1-2 seasons. I'm pretty sure they're isolating a tendency in the opponent's play calling each time, and then designing a play for that specific situation that almost always results in a pick as long as the offense runs the play they think they're going to run. I could be wrong, and I'm sure that doesn't account for all of them, but that would be my guess as to why that's happening.
What does he do different? A bunch of stuff, but most of all he's eaten, slept, and breathed football his entire life from the second he wakes up to the second he goes to sleep. His dad was a high level scout/coach, and his entire life has been consumed by it. Two stories illustrate this point... 1) Before she died his mom, who taught French, found his old French notebook from jr. high. She got super excited about what might be in it, but was soon disappointed when she opened it up to find (you guessed it) page after page of football plays he came up with in french class. 2) A year or two ago a local reporter asked Nick Saban where he was going to take BB to eat before they watched film of potential Pats draft picks together. Coach Saban laughed and said "You don't know Bill. We'll order food in and eat it while we're watching film."
This obsession has extended to a point where you can tell he's learned a ton of stuff that most people don't think deals with football specifically, but he learns it anyway so he can apply it to the Pats and make his team better. I've noticed it in two subjects I find very fascinating (psychology and math/statistics). As an example, he knows the greatest draft picker in the world will never be 100% effective, so he often trades down to accumulate more picks, then drafts guys with those picks he knows will compete their asses off. He won't be 100% effective with those picks, but he knows enough about math to know that increasing his number of picks increases his chances of getting the types of players he wants. If he's 100% wrong on a guy he can cut him, and if he's not maturing as quickly as he'd like he can cut him OR hold onto him for a season or two and see what he develops into. Do this with 20+% more players than everyone else since you keep trading down, and you're going to be successful if you're smart about how you value athleticism vs. intangibles.
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Post by joe83843 on Mar 5, 2017 22:28:44 GMT -6
Not easy to find but you can find playbooks from some of Belichick's defensive coordinators shortly after they left NE (like Eric Mangini, Romeo Crennel, etc) and you see basically the same framework/calls/etc. Also Saban's playbooks have evolved but there is a lot of Belichick overlap in terms of terminology, structure, calls and philosophy. Give or take 60-70% of what Saban does is the same as Belichick's defenses; he's just evolved it since. And excellent point from fantom about Belichick coaching his coaches. It's been posted here before but there was a good article on how he hires young coaches to start out, and that's often the pool he ends up hiring position coaches and ultimately coordinators from. www.masslive.com/patriots/index.ssf/2016/12/bill_belichick_patriots_coachi.htmlI have always have thought it's scouting that super eaters them... Sounds like I need to learn how to scout... Do you know of any books that would help or general methods used. It sounded like BB has an extensive scouting reports... I'm sure his dad's book ("Football Scouting Methods" by Steve Belichick) would be a great place to start. I read it ages ago and remember there being lots of good stuff in there.
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Post by caleb59seal on Mar 6, 2017 15:45:35 GMT -6
I have always have thought it's scouting that super eaters them... Sounds like I need to learn how to scout... Do you know of any books that would help or general methods used. It sounded like BB has an extensive scouting reports... I'm sure his dad's book ("Football Scouting Methods" by Steve Belichick) would be a great place to start. I read it ages ago and remember there being lots of good stuff in there. Is there anything in the book I need to focus on... I am trying to increase my film watching skills so I thought that book would help...
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Post by breakerdog on Mar 6, 2017 18:21:06 GMT -6
It doesn't get talked about much, but he got a bachelors degree in Economics at Wesleyen when he was going to school.
Economics definition.
The theories, principles, and models that deal with how the market process works. It attempts to explain how wealth is created and distributed in communities, how people allocate resources that are scarce and have many alternative uses, and other such matters that arise in dealing with human wants and their satisfaction.
Is there any other education that fits an NFL coach / GM so well.
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Post by bruinfb on Mar 6, 2017 18:45:56 GMT -6
I'll do my best to answer both questions, though I can answer your first better than your second. Also, a large chunk of this info. is found in "The Education of a Coach." Read that book if you haven't. It's worth your time. I agree with everything in this post. Others have made other great points about Belichick as a coach. The other thing that I got from reading this book is that Belichick is an economist. Everything in the organization is about what has the most value toward putting a winning product on the field. As a GM, Belichick has an ability to look at players, salaries, and alternatives and measure what situation will give the team maximum value. I think most try to do it, he is just able to gauge the value better than most. For example, I don't think most NFL GM's would have made the trade with Chandler Jones... most guys look at that and say, he's a great pass rusher (a premium position in the NFL today) and he's in his prime. Most would say Jones was worth more than a bust of a player and a 2nd round pick. But what separates Belichick is that he doesn't view it like everyone else. He sees that the players that are replacing Jones are only half the equation... the monetary savings allowed the team to pick up multiple other players (Chris Long and Martellus Bennett combined to make about as much as Jones) and the replacements at DE got close to the same production, even if they weren't as individually as talented as Jones. It is amazing to witness. I doubt we will ever see a situation where a coach/GM and Owner and Great QB come together as they have over the last 15 years, it is extraordinarily difficult to do in the NFL.
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Post by coachwolfie on Mar 15, 2017 16:18:24 GMT -6
Not to sound like a smart aleck... But from what I can gather Ernie Adams is what separates Bill Belichick from everyone else. Now who is He? & What does He do??? I don't know... all I know is Ernie Adams is the Yin to Bill Belichick's Yang.
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Post by td4tc on Mar 15, 2017 17:06:57 GMT -6
Tom Brady
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Post by trenchwarfare58 on Mar 16, 2017 7:19:57 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Mar 16, 2017 7:37:52 GMT -6
I suppose it doesn't hurt that Bill Belichick's team plays the Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins and NY Jets twice a year, comprising 1/2 of their schedule doesn't hurt, eh?
If you want to study Belichick, Alex Kirby's "Big Book of Belichick" compiles all his candid thoughts on organization, players, strategy in an easy to digest format.
Belichick is afforded to leverage the Malcolm Butlers, Chandler Jones, Willie McGinest because he has enough (win) equity to stray outside conventional wisdom. Put up a 7-9 season and he'll get crucified for those same moves
The time in Cleveland is some of the most fascinating football history. The book "War Room" goes into several stories about Belichick's experiences there
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Post by jrk5150 on Mar 16, 2017 14:34:47 GMT -6
I suppose it doesn't hurt that Bill Belichick's team plays the Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins and NY Jets twice a year, comprising 1/2 of their schedule doesn't hurt, eh? Belichick is afforded to leverage the Malcolm Butlers, Chandler Jones, Willie McGinest because he has enough (win) equity to stray outside conventional wisdom. Put up a 7-9 season and he'll get crucified for those same moves There's a bit of chicken and egg thing to both of those. The AFC East was a better conference before Belichick started beating the crap out of them. Coincidence? Or is he in their heads and they do stupid stuff to try to catch the Pats, and it blows up on them? He was 5-11 his first year with the Pats. Then he won 3 of the next 4 Super Bowls. So which came first - the winning or the leverage? And did the leverage create the winning? Hard to say. But the fact is, he's won multiple titles with dramatically different teams and coaching staffs. The only constant is Brady. So yeah, you can say Brady. Then again, the list of multiple SB winning coaches with non-elite QB's is pretty short - Parcells (who never made a SB without Belichick on his staff) and Gibbs - any others? And you have plenty of HOF QB/coach combos who didn't win 5 Super Bowls...
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Post by natenator on Mar 16, 2017 18:35:19 GMT -6
I suppose it doesn't hurt that Bill Belichick's team plays the Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins and NY Jets twice a year, comprising 1/2 of their schedule doesn't hurt, eh? How does 6 games equal half their schedule?
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Post by brophy on Mar 16, 2017 19:43:02 GMT -6
I suppose it doesn't hurt that Bill Belichick's team plays the Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins and NY Jets twice a year, comprising 1/2 of their schedule doesn't hurt, eh? Belichick is afforded to leverage the Malcolm Butlers, Chandler Jones, Willie McGinest because he has enough (win) equity to stray outside conventional wisdom. Put up a 7-9 season and he'll get crucified for those same moves There's a bit of chicken and egg thing to both of those. The AFC East was a better conference before Belichick started beating the crap out of them. Coincidence? Or is he in their heads and they do stupid stuff to try to catch the Pats, and it blows up on them? He was 5-11 his first year with the Pats. Then he won 3 of the next 4 Super Bowls. So which came first - the winning or the leverage? And did the leverage create the winning? Hard to say. But the fact is, he's won multiple titles with dramatically different teams and coaching staffs. The only constant is Brady. So yeah, you can say Brady. Then again, the list of multiple SB winning coaches with non-elite QB's is pretty short - Parcells (who never made a SB without Belichick on his staff) and Gibbs - any others? And you have plenty of HOF QB/coach combos who didn't win 5 Super Bowls... well, to be fair, he was at NE with Parcells. The reason he went back there was because of his relationship with Kraft. He we pegged to be the NY Jets HC with his buddy Parcells running the show. He left Parcells in the lurch to take the NE job, which I think says something. In the end, I think the takeaway for High School coaches is 1) he has a solid relationship with his "boss". Mutual respect between them. He is afforded to do what he needs to without meddling and the expectations of excellence are a standard they share. Just because there is a HC vacancy and you want to be HC, doesn't necessarily mean you should take it. Belichick often remarks about how ownership in Cleveland would have undermined any success he built. 2) it helps that others in his division don't necessarily have ownership (administrators) that have been in power or maintained the same direction. 3) he has broken from the good ole boy network. Adams is nothing more than a former scout who Belichick respects, so he can call him on his {censored}. Don't surround yourself with sycophants. He also has respect for the investment he makes in his staff. You can't get something from nothing, so pushing guys into more and more responsibility helps them mature. He knows what he wants the program to look like and is smart enough not to do it ALL by himself, and wise enough to play the long game to develop guys he can eventually delegate to.
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Post by jrk5150 on Mar 17, 2017 7:27:30 GMT -6
Hard to say. But the fact is, he's won multiple titles with dramatically different teams and coaching staffs. The only constant is Brady. So yeah, you can say Brady. Then again, the list of multiple SB winning coaches with non-elite QB's is pretty short - Parcells (who never made a SB without Belichick on his staff) and Gibbs - any others? And you have plenty of HOF QB/coach combos who didn't win 5 Super Bowls... well, to be fair, he was at NE with Parcells. The reason he went back there was because of his relationship with Kraft. He we pegged to be the NY Jets HC with his buddy Parcells running the show. He left Parcells in the lurch to take the NE job, which I think says something. Not quite the way it went down but close enough. My recollection is that Parcells only named Belichick HC after he received a request for permission to talk to Belichick from the Pats. Basically, the NYJ HC position was a transparent and rushed attempt to prevent Belichick from going to NE. Not exactly a "buddy" move from Parcells to start the whole thing. Gee - run the whole show in NE the way you want it done for an owner with whom you have a relationship of mutual like and respect, or be a HC for your long-time boss who wasn't really looking to step down quite yet, will still be running the show as GM, and with at the time unstable ownership. And don't minimize that last part - Belichick had to be a little gun-shy about ownership since that's what ultimately did him in at Cleveland. I don't know the ins and outs of what happened there, but their record seemed to be progressing, right up until ownership dropped the Baltimore bomb mid-season 1995. Obviously, someone close to that situation could easily say that isn't quite how that went down... Anyway, bottom line - yeah, Parcells was good to Belichick. Of course, he got something out of it too, they were one of the best HC/AC tandems in the history of the NFL.
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Post by trenchwarfare58 on Mar 17, 2017 8:10:34 GMT -6
One other note I will make, from an X's and O's standpoint one of the things BB does well is constantly vary the looks he gives on defense. You rarely ever see him stay in the same defense for an entire game, even going back to the Super Bowl against Buffalo when he was with the Giants and showed a different look every possession to slow down Jim Kelly and Marchibroda. Even this year, especially late in the season, the Patriots would constantly rotate between a 3-4 and a 4-2 look and move guys like Sheard and Hightower all over the place to keep the QB thinking.
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