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Post by jrk5150 on Feb 28, 2017 7:39:52 GMT -6
I'll confess to ignorance about some of the process, been a long time since I signed LOL.
Is it the "signing" that is the problem? Can schools back out of signed NLI's?
I thought the issue was offers being verbally made and accepted, recruiting being shut down, and then come time for signing it's "nope, sorry, out of luck".
If there's a way that a school can weasel out of a signed NLI, then that's probably one of the solutions right there...
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Post by veerman on Feb 28, 2017 10:16:43 GMT -6
I'll confess to ignorance about some of the process, been a long time since I signed LOL. Is it the "signing" that is the problem? Can schools back out of signed NLI's? I thought the issue was offers being verbally made and accepted, recruiting being shut down, and then come time for signing it's "nope, sorry, out of luck". If there's a way that a school can weasel out of a signed NLI, then that's probably one of the solutions right there... Again though it goes both ways...I don't know many kids that "Shut Down" their recruiting after they "commit" to a college. Most if not all still go on college visits. The whole process is bad cause nothing is being committed to on either side, and until rules are changed then its only going to get worse. I hate that colleges do some of the things they do, and I don't think it's right, BUT they are not the only ones to blame here. The recruits are just as much to blame.
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Post by wingtol on Feb 28, 2017 10:31:02 GMT -6
I may not be a a smart man but I know what messing with Saban gets you...Life won't be like a box of chocolates.. I would bet 99.999999999% of High Schools could ban Bama from their campuses and it wouldn't matter one bit as they probably were never going to recruit a kid from those schools anyways!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 11:05:23 GMT -6
I may not be a a smart man but I know what messing with Saban gets you...Life won't be like a box of chocolates.. I would bet 99.999999999% of High Schools could ban Bama from their campuses and it wouldn't matter one bit as they probably were never going to recruit a kid from those schools anyways! Just to be safe I told our HC to ban Bama from our school and he agreed to. So Saban better not come knocking because he's going to get a small school door slammed in his face.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 28, 2017 11:06:30 GMT -6
Not sure the guys floating this idea around understand the recruiting process...or maybe you didn't hear it exactly right and there are more details. There currently are multiple signing days because as the rule stands, the NLI signing day is the 1ST day that a binding agreement can be made. So the first Wednesday in February is "Signing Day", but athletes can sign an NLI on Thursday, Friday, Saturday...etc. Athletes are not forced to sign on that day. They can sign whenever. They can wait a week..two weeks, a month.. Commitments would be more binding, I guess was a piece I missed on. Sure, there would be stipulations for both athlete and college (grades, injury, maybe coach leaving), but a school couldnt sign multiple kids to 1 position on "signing day," then drop the ones they didn't want 3 weeks later. I am going to be honest, I don't think schools can do this either. I haven't passed my NCAA recruiting cert test in a LONG LONG time, but oversigning generally doesn't lead to players "being dropped 3 weeks later" but rather a culling of the current roster to get to the 85 limit by August through various "questionable" means.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 28, 2017 11:19:48 GMT -6
I'll confess to ignorance about some of the process, been a long time since I signed LOL. Is it the "signing" that is the problem? Can schools back out of signed NLI's? I thought the issue was offers being verbally made and accepted, recruiting being shut down, and then come time for signing it's "nope, sorry, out of luck". If there's a way that a school can weasel out of a signed NLI, then that's probably one of the solutions right there... I don't believe they can weasel out of a signed NLI, but rather what happens is that they pull offer at the last minute and try some of that "greyshirting" nonsense.
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Post by airraider on Mar 7, 2017 17:35:39 GMT -6
I coached for this guy for 3 seasons as his OC. I coach in the same district that this took place, and it has been a wild weekend trying to process what took place Friday. Long story short, Alabama offered Brandon Harris... Harris ended up going to LSU for 3 years and earned and lost the starting QB job. He has just recently announced that he will be transferring this season. Well, after Bama offered him, they were told while on campus that they had some other kids they wanted to look at and his offer was not committable at that time. So, in 2015 Feaster made a comment on a local radio station that Alabama was not welcomed back on their campus, as he felt this was an unethical recruiting process and he was not going to help them do another Parkway kid like that. So, it came up again right after the news of Harris transferring and it made national news. The current principal is in his first year... Feaster is in his 6th... Supposedly the negative impact that the comments has brought the school was the reasoning for the firing... www.arklatexhomepage.com/sports/full-interview-with-david-feaster/659482387 airraider you mentioned you coached under him. What was your experience like? Care to shine some more light? He is an extremely intelligent coach. He teaches gifted math and his mental abilities do carry over to the field. His people skills sometimes lack whats needed to keep him in everyone's good graces. My first year under him I did not think I could make a 2nd, but ended up working for him for 3 after I learned how to take his dry sense of humor. I would no doubt work for him again.
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Post by airraider on Mar 7, 2017 17:47:15 GMT -6
I had a 4 star kid the last 2 seasons. He enrolled early at Texas A&M in Jan after receiving nearly 40 offers.
This time last year he was going to shut down his recruitment and commit to Georgia. This kid is such a high character kid, he had written a personal letter to all of the other programs that he had grown a personal relationship with.
He called Kirby Smart to commit and they told him they wanted him to come to camp that summer to evaluate him some more. I understanding wanting a kid on campus before you will take his commitment, but he had already been to Jr Day with them.
Long story short... it really upset the kid as he had kind of made it know around the school that he was going to be officially committing that day and he had to try to save face.
I brought him in and showed him their board on 247sports.com where they had offered over 300 kids. They had offers out on a couple of 5 stars at his same position.
I tried to explain to him that a school like that is not going to fill a spot with a kid ranked 6 or 7 on their list while the ones ahead of him are still a real possibility.
Does it suck? Absolutely... but we can't get mad at one college when a great many of them play the same game. And, on the other hand... it has become the cool thing for kids to commit 2 or 3 times in the process before they finally sign.
Its a broken system and it needs to be fixed for sure.
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