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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 9, 2017 15:22:32 GMT -6
I found it hilarious and sort of awkward at the same time...
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Post by silkyice on Feb 9, 2017 17:08:51 GMT -6
I hate the term "Grinding" when referring to this usually the ones doing crossfit style workouts that may be hard, but not actually get kids stronger Grinding is not something i want to do to my body, bones, or joints Grinding is meant for Pretty Ricky-esque dancing in music videos What you forget is that Pretty-Ricky-grinding-Crossfit workouts are one of the cornerstones of an effective Facemelter off-season regimen. #grindpayz #nodaysoff #gainz #trudat #realtalk
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Post by silkyice on Feb 9, 2017 17:11:13 GMT -6
on top of a bosu ball, on one leg, and resistance bands, while someone punches them in the stomach while simultaneously using an agility ladder (suspended above hurdles) ok, no lie...6 months ago, buddy was training for crossfit competition. The WOD was 1-legged box jumps with a weighted barbell on his back. 2nd rep in, my buddy doesnt make it up, falls...3 bruised ribs, torn labrum, gash on leg requiring 17 stiches. So he got stronger right?! #whatdoesntkillyoumakesyoustronger #duh
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Post by fantom on Feb 9, 2017 17:14:59 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't know wtf that was all about with Belichick. Maybe he was drunk? Or mocking everyone who was there...and not at work? Not mutually exclusive.
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Post by blb on Feb 9, 2017 17:24:30 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't know wtf that was all about with Belichick. Maybe he was drunk? Or mocking everyone who was there...and not at work? Not mutually exclusive.
I heard Belichick on the post-game radio show and he was positively giddy, to the point he was almost babbling.
Never seen or heard him that way.
Maybe it was how they won, or that he has now won more Lombardi Trophies than any other coach.
Must have carried over to the Tuesday Duck Boat ride through the adoring throngs.
Or just one too many Sam Adams.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 9, 2017 18:14:29 GMT -6
Coaches giving players written quizzes makes me rage. It's a phucin game that's supposed to be fun. You want to give me a quiz? Phuc that.
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Post by scottbailey on Feb 9, 2017 19:14:45 GMT -6
A coach here in MO that set the record for most state titles consecutively won (6) admitted at a clinic yesterday the reason he has won so many titles is that he has been lucky/blessed to have great players the last 6 years. Some guys in there were pissed because they thought he was holding back some secret he wouldn't tell everybody. He wasn't lying, he's been blessed to have a few D1/D2 kids that were just flat out better than his competition. They literally only run a 4-3 over cover 0 on defense, and DTDW and Power I on offense. One of the few times I've heard a coach admit they won because of players/talent and not scheme. That coach is on here somewhere. Doesn't post very often but I know he's a member. If I remember correctly, I was asked "if you had to narrow it down to one thing what do you attribute your success to"...or something along those lines. I gave two answers to the question and I don't think I held anything back with my response because this is what I believe. We have been "fortunate and blessed" with the caliber of kid we have had in our program for quite awhile now AND our community, parents and school administration allowed us to coach them in a very demanding (old school) manner and allowed us to STAY long enough for it to become the norm. That doesn't happen in every town/school.
I don't believe I held anything back in the clinic talk. It was advertised as a Q and A session and I thought I answered every question honestly and openly. I really don't believe there is any "secret" to our success...the "secret" might be there isn't any secret for all I know???
As for what gets me fired up, here is a story you guys will love. Just won our 6th state championship in a row and the only 6 football state championships in school history. During that stretch our offense has scored a lot of points running mainly double tight, double wing, double QB spin and never throwing it if possible. I am speaking to a local civic organization shortly after the season ended and the first question is "are we going to open the offense up next year?" The guy was serious, not joking at all. Our offense doesn't look like what they see on Saturday or Sunday so its not good enough I guess???
Scott Bailey Lamar HS Lamar, Mo.
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Post by dytmook on Feb 9, 2017 19:35:50 GMT -6
Well since I have a moment here are a few more:
Coach who thinks you have to be loud and yell because well that's what coaches do right. It works for some and not for others, but the guy I'm thinking of just sounds so forced its funny.
Other guy is guy who can't recognize something but just yells out looks/formations to yell. Our DC talked about moving a coach to the box because he will yell checks and formations that are completely wrong. Last year we played a team that was a double tight T team most the time. He would yell unbalanced and stuff like watch the wing motion. This was JV so I was tried to tell him, coach they literally couldn't be any more balanced and there is no tackle over. I know other guys like this, but he's 76 been shot and stabbed multiple times so we just try to laugh at him.
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 9, 2017 22:15:52 GMT -6
The fiddy school of credibility?
How about the guy with no sense of clock management?
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Post by 50slantstrong on Feb 9, 2017 23:20:25 GMT -6
Great thread topic. Can't believe I missed it last week. 7 on 7 clubs. There is a local 7-7 club that hand picks elite talent (kids that are going to UCLA, USC, etc) from the two counties my metro area encompasses. Their coach goes around gloating that he developed all of his players and he's the reason they're successful. Parents of lesser talented kids are ready to sign over a house payment to him because they believe he'll turn their kids into the next Southern California first round draft pick. There are several other clubs in the area whom are equally as deceitful. I have one more thing that makes me rage but it's extremely uncommon. A guy I work with is a former assistant coach who coached a couple of local underachieving schools. He tells me at least once a week he'd love to coach again but the programs in the area aren't run the way programs should be run. He also tells me he deserves to be a defensive coordinator and he can shut down any offense with his defense. I know this isn't a common rager for most people but it is for me and my personal day to day life because I have to listen to him everyday. I can't stand guys like that! Lots of expert pop warner coaches in my area. Not bashing on pop warner coaches, but the ones I come across are a bit nuts. Next time that guy talks like that, ask him why he doesn't take over a program and run it the right way. Ask him how he would defend a wing-t one week, a fly offense the next, a pro-style the next, and a spread RPO offense the next. What are his thoughts on hawk tackling and how the head is being taken out of the game. Whenever I ask these types of questions, I get blank stares and never see or hear from those guys ever again. Do that and I bet he stays away from you at work. But rest assured, he'll still tell everyone that you don't know jack. He's actually friendly with me I don't even get to the point where I make him think I'm questioning his "expertise". No lie - about an hour after I made my original post he made a comment to me that he turned down an offer to coach because he heard the OC at the school ran a single wing and single wing teams never win state titles these days. Anyway, I think my approach is best - in one ear, out the other and post the funny stuff in this thread.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 10, 2017 12:06:57 GMT -6
Incomplete clinic descriptions. "Read option/compliments.
Wish I knew what I was listening to ahead of time.
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Post by StraightFlexin on Feb 10, 2017 13:02:36 GMT -6
Skills for dollar coaches
We have some programs that will teach kids "next level skills", but only instill bad habits. We then spend the next two months re-teaching a kid how to run a route without patterning feet for 5 seconds like they are doing some type of ladder drill. News flash to parents, you shouldn't have to pay anyone to tell you if your kid is good. Hell for the right price I will tell any woman she is beautiful lol
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 11, 2017 5:39:39 GMT -6
To continue with my clinic whining, every RPO session has spent a ton of time talking about bubble screen and some coaches sit there like it's revolutionary.
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Post by blb on Feb 11, 2017 9:15:54 GMT -6
Coaches who call time outs when the clock is already stopped
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to decide whether to go for it-what to run on 4th Down.
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Post by fantom on Feb 11, 2017 9:51:59 GMT -6
Coaches who call time outs when the clock is already stopped or to decide whether to go for it-what to run on 4th Down. Or when somebody is missing on punt team. OK, I wouldn't say that it makes me rage. This isn't a stupid mistake but I do think that it's a mistake. Take the delay. Who cares? You're giving the ball away anyway.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 11, 2017 10:10:20 GMT -6
Coaches who call time outs when the clock is already stopped or to decide whether to go for it-what to run on 4th Down. Or when somebody is missing on punt team. OK, I wouldn't say that it makes me rage. This isn't a stupid mistake but I do think that it's a mistake. Take the delay. Who cares? You're giving the ball away anyway. I think a cousin to these two mistakes is when a coach calls a passing play on 3rd and long, has no check down routes, throws incomplete, and then goes for it on 4th.
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Post by blb on Feb 11, 2017 10:27:24 GMT -6
Coaches who call time outs when the clock is already stopped or to decide whether to go for it-what to run on 4th Down. Or when somebody is missing on punt team. OK, I wouldn't say that it makes me rage. This isn't a stupid mistake but I do think that it's a mistake. Take the delay. Who cares? You're giving the ball away anyway.
...or Extra Point.
Time outs are like gold, drives me crazy when coaches give them away because they aren't prepared or organized.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Feb 11, 2017 12:50:23 GMT -6
We coach our guys not to waste a timeout on punt team. Our protector counts to make sure we have 11 guys before calling the cadence, we tell him that if we are short just don't call it and we'll try to run somebody on in time but if we run out of time we'll just take the 5 yard penalty.
Of course one time about 7 or 8 years ago our protector didn't go out there when we called punt team. Never got a real clear answer on who actually called the cadence or how the ball got snapped, but it did and of course the punt was blocked. That made me rage.
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Post by fantom on Feb 11, 2017 13:01:58 GMT -6
We coach our guys not to waste a timeout on punt team. Our protector counts to make sure we have 11 guys before calling the cadence, we tell him that if we are short just don't call it and we'll try to run somebody on in time but if we run out of time we'll just take the 5 yard penalty. Of course one time about 7 or 8 years ago our protector didn't go out there when we called punt team. Never got a real clear answer on who actually called the cadence or how the ball got snapped, but it did and of course the punt was blocked. That made me rage. Which reminds me of one of the main things that makes me rage: Personnel mistakes in the kicking game.
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Post by dytmook on Feb 11, 2017 13:45:10 GMT -6
To continue with my clinic whining, every RPO session has spent a ton of time talking about bubble screen and some coaches sit there like it's revolutionary. Ugh and they completely ignore the blocking component. We get it throw where the player vacates.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 11, 2017 13:46:02 GMT -6
To continue with my clinic whining, every RPO session has spent a ton of time talking about bubble screen and some coaches sit there like it's revolutionary. Ugh and they completely ignore the blocking component. We get it throw where the player vacates. I actually picked up a couple good blocking tips from the Wisconsin-Platteville HC.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 11, 2017 15:54:41 GMT -6
How about the coach with a headset on friday nights that doesn't come to film on sundays that starts suggesting play calls?
Those guys get yelled at...
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Post by 50slantstrong on Feb 12, 2017 0:05:56 GMT -6
-Coaches who harp on the kids to play hard, and then lose their minds when one gets flagged for an aggressive penalty.
-Coaches who scream "catch the ball" after a drop without correcting flaw in the player's technique. Same goes to coaches screaming about players missing tackles and blocks.
If I'm ever a head coach, these literally might be the first things I address in my first staff meeting.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 12, 2017 7:24:49 GMT -6
-Coaches who harp on the kids to play hard, and then lose their minds when one gets flagged for an aggressive penalty. -Coaches who scream "catch the ball" after a drop without correcting flaw in the player's technique. Same goes to coaches screaming about players missing tackles and blocks. If I'm ever a head coach, these literally might be the first things I address in my first staff meeting. On competitive like all coaches, but insane competitive. I actually have a note in my game sheet every week that reminds me to coach, not yet. Not that I yell non coaching points like some guys but I do get a little more intense than some would like.
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 12, 2017 8:27:51 GMT -6
We coach our guys not to waste a timeout on punt team. Our protector counts to make sure we have 11 guys before calling the cadence, we tell him that if we are short just don't call it and we'll try to run somebody on in time but if we run out of time we'll just take the 5 yard penalty. Of course one time about 7 or 8 years ago our protector didn't go out there when we called punt team. Never got a real clear answer on who actually called the cadence or how the ball got snapped, but it did and of course the punt was blocked. That made me rage. Which reminds me of one of the main things that makes me rage: Personnel mistakes in the kicking game. Don't get me wrong; as a ST coach, players not knowing when to be on the field for kicking game assignments is probably my number 1 pet peeve. But, I agree on the timeout thing too. In fact, a couple years ago, I had a talk with one of my JV assistants, because he on his own volition called a timeout because we were missing an end on punt team. In addition to pointing out that I'll call the TOs if we need them, I simply asked, "Coach, does it really matter if we punt from the 35 instead of the 40 in a JV game?"
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Post by center on Feb 12, 2017 8:50:54 GMT -6
-Increased requirements for coaches: (Illinois for example)
Coaches take concussion awareness course and test online -Coaches take PED course and test online -Most schools have required community service -Many schools require athlete study hall for D and F grades, this may be in addition to eligibility code and what football program is already doing -Districts require that head coaches submit formal evaluation of assistant coaches -Some states are requiring clinic attendance to USA football, heads-up football type seminars. -Required attendance or viewing of rules meetings on annual basis.
-I am also hearing more districts that are asking their coaches their "plan" for involving parents and others in their program. What roles do parents, boosters, etc have for example.
All of the above have a purpose but when you combine them they are overwhelming for a coach. Not to mention any media/public relations stuff.
So now all you need to do is fundraiser, take care of stats and video and you are ready to actually teach a kid how to get into a stance.
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Post by olcoach53 on Feb 13, 2017 9:12:41 GMT -6
How about the coach with a headset on friday nights that doesn't come to film on sundays that starts suggesting play calls? Those guys get yelled at... We had a guy like that. Called him "Game Day" would only show up on Fridays, want to have input in everything and always asked for coaching gear ahead of everybody else. We tried to leave him at school one day but he showed up early. He ended up quitting in the middle of a game because we were trying to coach up his position group since he was never there and didn't know our game plan.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 13, 2017 9:44:59 GMT -6
How about the coach with a headset on friday nights that doesn't come to film on sundays that starts suggesting play calls? Those guys get yelled at... We had a guy like that. Called him "Game Day" would only show up on Fridays, want to have input in everything and always asked for coaching gear ahead of everybody else. We tried to leave him at school one day but he showed up early. He ended up quitting in the middle of a game because we were trying to coach up his position group since he was never there and didn't know our game plan. Our guy got so pissed that he took his headset off and was pissed off at the rest of the staff for being called out... Not sure how he could be upset...
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 13, 2017 10:45:34 GMT -6
-Other coaches telling my DBs 'Don't get beat deep', and that includes the HC -Being told IDGAS what you did at another school. Football wasn't invented at said school. I've learned a bunch of stuff from other places and it works. -coaches with headsets that talk into the mic to a person face to face. I don't need to hear you coach the LB on him missing a read, I need to hear the guy up top charting plays... move the mic out of the way -inside run, good on good trying to service each other and the OC wants to see a 3-1 box -ACs not having their stuff done when meeting time rolls around
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 13, 2017 10:55:46 GMT -6
How about the coach with a headset on friday nights that doesn't come to film on sundays that starts suggesting play calls? Those guys get yelled at... We had a guy like that. Called him "Game Day" would only show up on Fridays, want to have input in everything and always asked for coaching gear ahead of everybody else. We tried to leave him at school one day but he showed up early. He ended up quitting in the middle of a game because we were trying to coach up his position group since he was never there and didn't know our game plan. We don't have a coach like that but we have something worse, alumni on the sideline. When I took over the program which has a tradition of allowing a bunch of al bundys showing off their letterman jackets from 1992, I spoke to the ad about how I wanted a strict sideline. He said he supported me but warned that it would not be a popular community/public relations move to kick a bunch of people off the field who have been on the sideline for years. I completely understood and bit the bullet. We started off 0-4 and the al bundys and uncle ricos would yell at our kids and even try and coach them up. They're not the reason we were 0-4 but their presence was doing much more harm than good. The next week I spoke with the ad again, and he supported me and locked down the sideline. We lost again, going 0-5 but they (alumni) wanted me fired because I was unwelcoming to the tradition. We went onto win the next 7 games and lose in the semifinals of playoffs but that didn't seem to matter to those guys who felt slighted by me.
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