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Post by fshamrock on Jan 31, 2017 13:56:40 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. I think some of the "lesser talent" guys are bull$hitters, but a good many honestly think they have lesser talent...there's something about the kids on your team that makes them look less impressive to you, because you are around them all the time. It's like when you were in school and you thought the girls from the other high school were hotter, they probably weren't, just different than what you saw everyday i've known guys who had undefeated state champ seasons with several d-1 players, but they admit that every game in warmups they'd be looking over at the other team saying "holy crap look at THAT dude, and the one over THERE"......then proceed to win my 40...it's a brain thing
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 31, 2017 14:06:02 GMT -6
I rage irrationally about twitter coaches and the twitter coach lifestyle up to and including tweeting quotes then not putting who actually said the stinking thing...so the tweet will read "everybody has a plan until they get hit"...or..."I have a dream today!"..but then won't say anything else..no - Mike Tyson or - Martin Luther King Jr
other twitter coaches set up scenarios on their team for the purposes of tweeting about it....like the guy who made all of the assistant coaches wear cat t-shirts...so he could tweet pictures about how they all wore cat shirts, like "man look at what our crazy/silly staff gone and did right?"...but in real life it was mandatory and not fun at all, guys had to so spend their own money on a stupid t-shirt
i'm all for managing the perception of your program, it's downright necessary...but when you're making everybody else's life miserable to make yourself look good on social media, your probably just being a jerk.
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Post by wiscohscoach on Jan 31, 2017 14:41:34 GMT -6
I rage irrationally about twitter coaches and the twitter coach lifestyle up to and including tweeting quotes then not putting who actually said the stinking thing...so the tweet will read "everybody has a plan until they get hit"...or..."I have a dream today!"..but then won't say anything else..no - Mike Tyson or - Martin Luther King Jr other twitter coaches set up scenarios on their team for the purposes of tweeting about it....like the guy who made all of the assistant coaches wear cat t-shirts...so he could tweet pictures about how they all wore cat shirts, like "man look at what our crazy/silly staff gone and did right?"...but in real life it was mandatory and not fun at all, guys had to so spend their own money on a stupid t-shirt i'm all for managing the perception of your program, it's downright necessary...but when you're making everybody else's life miserable to make yourself look good on social media, your probably just being a jerk. "This is a rant on social media about social media." - WiscoHSCoach
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Post by newt21 on Jan 31, 2017 15:14:55 GMT -6
For me personally, it's when anybody-parents, other coaches, whoever talk down to me because I coach middle school ball and act like I don't know my ace from my elbow because if I did "I wouldn't be coaching middle school ball".
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Post by rsmith627 on Jan 31, 2017 15:23:04 GMT -6
For me personally, it's when anybody-parents, other coaches, whoever talk down to me because I coach middle school ball and act like I don't know my ace from my elbow because if I did "I wouldn't be coaching middle school ball". I get that from guys in other programs because I coach JV. Cool bro, let me know when your program wins a conference game, and I'll just coach little ol' JV in a power program. I've had more fun doing JV here than when I was a varsity OC in one of those lousy programs too.
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Post by jg78 on Jan 31, 2017 15:27:26 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. We are semi loaded this upcoming year and will be fully loaded the following. I think coaches say it more than you think, but will rarely say it outside their circle. Does it mean our team will win a state championship? No. Depends how loaded our opponents are. Exactly. Winning is all about your team relative to the competition. Sometimes a great team doesn't win a title b/c it runs up against another great team in the championship, and sometimes good (but not great) teams win a championship when the competition is down. The mountain you have to climb is different every year. Sometimes it's higher, and sometimes it's lower.
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Post by coachdlo on Jan 31, 2017 16:33:03 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. A coach here in MO that set the record for most state titles consecutively won (6) admitted at a clinic yesterday the reason he has won so many titles is that he has been lucky/blessed to have great players the last 6 years. Some guys in there were pissed because they thought he was holding back some secret he wouldn't tell everybody. He wasn't lying, he's been blessed to have a few D1/D2 kids that were just flat out better than his competition. They literally only run a 4-3 over cover 0 on defense, and DTDW and Power I on offense. One of the few times I've heard a coach admit they won because of players/talent and not scheme. Knowing who this team is.. He's not wrong. They are blessed with talent. But the numbers (players out) he produces for such a small town.. (!!) those dudes are bought into what he's doing. But agree.. Sometimes, "It's the Jimmy's and the Joe's not the X's and O's"
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Post by carookie on Jan 31, 2017 17:03:17 GMT -6
For me personally, it's when anybody-parents, other coaches, whoever talk down to me because I coach middle school ball and act like I don't know my ace from my elbow because if I did "I wouldn't be coaching middle school ball". Ehh, don't stress it. I coached with guys who coached in the NFL and D1, I heard other coaches derided as "just HS coaches" a number of times. Sometimes that was followed by a beating from the team coached by "just HS coaches". What are you gonna do? Unless you are Nick Saban or Bill Belichick then someone out there has a better football coaching resume than you at a higher level than you've been at.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 31, 2017 19:27:32 GMT -6
Tomorrow. I absolutely despise what Signing Day has become, as well as the changes in recruiting that it represents.
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 31, 2017 21:09:19 GMT -6
Tomorrow. I absolutely despise what Signing Day has become, as well as the changes in recruiting that it represents. Ya man...18 of the 20 or so kids that will be "signing" for us tomorrow (all sports) are kids whose parents dumped 60 grand on 10 years of private lessons, and are about to drop another 60 on private small college...just so they can tell their golf buddies that the kid is playing college ball...it's a racket
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Post by gian3074 on Jan 31, 2017 21:41:43 GMT -6
Coaches (college coaches mostly) who put winning above everything else. I wish I had more high school coaching experience to be able to offer something more detailed about high school football.
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Post by s73 on Jan 31, 2017 22:54:22 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. I think some of the "lesser talent" guys are bull$hitters, but a good many honestly think they have lesser talent...there's something about the kids on your team that makes them look less impressive to you, because you are around them all the time. It's like when you were in school and you thought the girls from the other high school were hotter, they probably weren't, just different than what you saw everyday i've known guys who had undefeated state champ seasons with several d-1 players, but they admit that every game in warmups they'd be looking over at the other team saying "holy crap look at THAT dude, and the one over THERE"......then proceed to win my 40...it's a brain thing I COMPLETELY agree with this. I think you see your guys everyday & know the mistakes they make regularly in practice and all you see of the other team is the BIG tough looking kids. Especially nowadays. I personally see some really impressive kids in uniform & almost forget they are only 16-17 years old. They look like men. But...I see my guys with their helmets off and see them in school acting like doofus's at lunch or what have you & they seem like kids. I have actually made it one of my goals for next season to remind myself that regardless of looks, all of my opponents are still playing with kids who still live with mom and dad.
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Post by fantom on Jan 31, 2017 23:20:52 GMT -6
I think some of the "lesser talent" guys are bull$hitters, but a good many honestly think they have lesser talent...there's something about the kids on your team that makes them look less impressive to you, because you are around them all the time. It's like when you were in school and you thought the girls from the other high school were hotter, they probably weren't, just different than what you saw everyday i've known guys who had undefeated state champ seasons with several d-1 players, but they admit that every game in warmups they'd be looking over at the other team saying "holy crap look at THAT dude, and the one over THERE"......then proceed to win my 40...it's a brain thing I COMPLETELY agree with this. I think you see your guys everyday & know the mistakes they make regularly in practice and all you see of the other team is the BIG tough looking kids. Especially nowadays. I personally see some really impressive kids in uniform & almost forget they are only 16-17 years old. They look like men. But...I see my guys with their helmets off and see them in school acting like doofus's at lunch or what have you & they seem like kids. I have actually made it one of my goals for next season to remind myself that regardless of looks, all of my opponents are still playing with kids who still live with mom and dad. Keep in mind that even the most talented teams have a lot of guys who are just supporting cast- good HS players who aren't D.1 guys.
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 1, 2017 6:19:17 GMT -6
Tomorrow. I absolutely despise what Signing Day has become, as well as the changes in recruiting that it represents. Ya man...18 of the 20 or so kids that will be "signing" for us tomorrow (all sports) are kids whose parents dumped 60 grand on 10 years of private lessons, and are about to drop another 60 on private small college...just so they can tell their golf buddies that the kid is playing college ball...it's a racket Here its more about the photo op, hullabaloo, and the actual signing. The kids want their 15 minutes. Of the 30+ kids who have "signed" over the past 3 years, almost half of them never end up even enrolling in the school. Our biggest year, 13 kids 2 years back, only 1 went back for the spring semester...and he's the one we never thought would make it, AND he's about to finish his AA degree at juco, AND he is signing to a D2 university today!!
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Post by blb on Feb 1, 2017 6:56:29 GMT -6
-A few years ago we averaged 35.8ppg and only threw the ball 5-6 times a night. We ran the puke out of the ball and I had those comments about "coach you gotta be more balanced." We were basically a power team a few years ago and some people always talked about how conservative and boring we were. That continued even after a reporter wrote a story that showed that over a five year period we were the highest scoring team in the state.
At one school we broke the scoring record three years in a row. One of those years we also broke record for passing yards and TD passes.
After I left one of my assistants was talking to a neighbor when subject of my departure came up.
"Oh, him," she said, "He's that coach that just keeps running the same play over and over."
People are crazy, etc.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 1, 2017 7:12:04 GMT -6
We were basically a power team a few years ago and some people always talked about how conservative and boring we were. That continued even after a reporter wrote a story that showed that over a five year period we were the highest scoring team in the state.
At one school we broke the scoring record three years in a row. One of those years we also broke record for passing yards and TD passes.
After I left one of my assistants was talking to a neighbor when subject of my departure came up.
"Oh, him," she said, "He's that coach that just keeps running the same play over and over."
People are crazy, etc.
I took flack 2 years ago for running inside zone 90% of the time. I had a beast RB who could score from anywhere on the field on any touch. We won by an average of 30 points all year. Fans are stupid and make me rage.
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 1, 2017 7:41:48 GMT -6
Ya man...18 of the 20 or so kids that will be "signing" for us tomorrow (all sports) are kids whose parents dumped 60 grand on 10 years of private lessons, and are about to drop another 60 on private small college...just so they can tell their golf buddies that the kid is playing college ball...it's a racket Here its more about the photo op, hullabaloo, and the actual signing. The kids want their 15 minutes. Of the 30+ kids who have "signed" over the past 3 years, almost half of them never end up even enrolling in the school. Our biggest year, 13 kids 2 years back, only 1 went back for the spring semester...and he's the one we never thought would make it, AND he's about to finish his AA degree at juco, AND he is signing to a D2 university today!! Also, in a lot of cases, the schools themselves like the publicity of signing kids, especially local kids so that it makes the news. At a previous stop, we had a player commit to a JUCO for basketball and he wasn't going to do the "signing day" thing...but it was the college that told him he had to...
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Post by blb on Feb 1, 2017 7:50:28 GMT -6
Tomorrow. I absolutely despise what Signing Day has become, as well as the changes in recruiting that it represents.
I agree with you, but around here because of Schools of Choice administrators feel obligated to do press conferences to publicize that their schools are getting kids schollies or risk losing them (and the $7k foundation money each represents) to other districts.
Sad but true.
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Post by mrjvi on Feb 1, 2017 8:27:05 GMT -6
The school I just retired from has signings for kids. The kid might have a partial scholarship to a school no one has heard of but it's still a signing press event. I would never attend them. Like some have said, many don't even stay there or go all 4 years and never touched the field. That's OK but too much fanfare, IMO.
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Post by Defcord on Feb 1, 2017 8:56:51 GMT -6
-We had tryouts for baseball yesterday and 6 kids didn't have physicals yet. And they have been constantly reminded by our HC since fall ball that A.) they have to have a physical to practice and B.) Physicals last for one calendar year.
I have seen this in coaching football and baseball at a couple of the schools I have been at.
It's abundantly frustrating to have kids and parents that don't have that stuff ready on day 1.
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 1, 2017 9:04:49 GMT -6
I don't have a major problem with signing day...except at least be classy about it. Don't rip off a Florida shirt, then rip off a Florida St. shirt, and then announce you're going to USC. Just simply say you're going to USC and leave it at that.
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Post by dytmook on Feb 1, 2017 9:13:06 GMT -6
A little ceremony is nice for all the kids. Makes the parents happy, get a little media attention, good program marketing cheap. But the whole big deal on ESPN and that junk can go.
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 1, 2017 10:37:51 GMT -6
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Post by **** on Feb 1, 2017 10:48:38 GMT -6
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Post by CoachSP on Feb 1, 2017 10:52:54 GMT -6
Signing day pet peeve: The phrase, "I'll take my talents to..."
Everyday coaching pet peeve: Kids wanting to "focus" on one sport in high school.
Misc.: That "stop running the same play" nonsense.
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Post by coolhandluke on Feb 1, 2017 11:01:56 GMT -6
People who think that defense is nothing more than just "flying around."
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Post by paydirt18 on Feb 1, 2017 12:43:16 GMT -6
clinics * coaches that insist on public speaking with an entire pack of dip in their mouths * coaches that punctuate every sentence with a call for acknowledgement "aight", "mmmmkay", etc I totally agreed with this.
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Post by paydirt18 on Feb 1, 2017 12:49:31 GMT -6
At one school we broke the scoring record three years in a row. One of those years we also broke record for passing yards and TD passes.
After I left one of my assistants was talking to a neighbor when subject of my departure came up.
"Oh, him," she said, "He's that coach that just keeps running the same play over and over."
People are crazy, etc.
I took flack 2 years ago for running inside zone 90% of the time. I had a beast RB who could score from anywhere on the field on any touch. We won by an average of 30 points all year. Fans are stupid and make me rage. I feel your pain. I currently have a kid who is a master with our jet option stuff, he literally averages 280 yards per game rushing the ball. I get that stuff too.....why do you run the same play???etc. I have to bit my tongue with these fans - if it aint broke, don't fix it right?
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Post by **** on Feb 1, 2017 13:05:57 GMT -6
People who think that defense is nothing more than just "flying around." Wait a minute... should I be telling my kids something different?
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Post by dytmook on Feb 1, 2017 13:21:54 GMT -6
I took flack 2 years ago for running inside zone 90% of the time. I had a beast RB who could score from anywhere on the field on any touch. We won by an average of 30 points all year. Fans are stupid and make me rage. I feel your pain. I currently have a kid who is a master with our jet option stuff, he literally averages 280 yards per game rushing the ball. I get that stuff too.....why do you run the same play???etc. I have to bit my tongue with these fans - if it aint broke, don't fix it right? I don't get it asked it but my answer would be, "because it works".
Had one of those grandparents behind me at a JV once. He keeps calling the same things....Look we can't protect to run hitch or block them on power. It's not gonna matter what I call, we're going to get our butts kicked.
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