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Post by nicku on Aug 30, 2017 8:29:16 GMT -6
I have to add another to this list: I'm trying to get my DL to start watching their KEY for movement and not the ball. We've struggled with our hands to target and being able to react to the block in front of us. So now every time it's a 3rd down, everyone on our sideline, including a few coaches are constantly yelling out "watch the ball", even though I'm trying to get our guys to stop doing that. I'm going to bring it up to some of the coaches sometime (to be fair, they don't coach DL), but it's still annoying to be contradicted every time it's 3rd down. So basically "watch the ball" is now right up there with the infamous "hit somebody", "wrap up", and "hold on to the ball" phrases I never want to hear on our sidelines I'll add one: "Catch the ball!" No $h1t, sherlock. That's generally the idea. I try to say "catch the fat" or "look the laces in". Something stupid that just a reminder to keep your focus up.
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 30, 2017 15:17:50 GMT -6
I have to add another to this list: I'm trying to get my DL to start watching their KEY for movement and not the ball. We've struggled with our hands to target and being able to react to the block in front of us. So now every time it's a 3rd down, everyone on our sideline, including a few coaches are constantly yelling out "watch the ball", even though I'm trying to get our guys to stop doing that. I'm going to bring it up to some of the coaches sometime (to be fair, they don't coach DL), but it's still annoying to be contradicted every time it's 3rd down. So basically "watch the ball" is now right up there with the infamous "hit somebody", "wrap up", and "hold on to the ball" phrases I never want to hear on our sidelines I'll add one: "Catch the ball!" No $h1t, sherlock. That's generally the idea. I try to say "catch the fat" or "look the laces in". Something stupid that just a reminder to keep your focus up. I think that most coaches on this board are pretty good ones, or at least desire to improve by learning more about our game. Most coaches don't frequent boards like this. Along with that, I think these non coaching points like block someone, catch the ball, etc. make all of us here rage.
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Post by RuningOutOfOptions on Aug 31, 2017 9:30:10 GMT -6
What frustrates me is when for example coaches chew out a player they do not coach. For example a DB coach yelling at a RB for cutting inside too early. If you don't know 100% what they are being taught, don't try to correct them.
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Post by olcoach53 on Aug 31, 2017 10:15:31 GMT -6
What frustrates me is when for example coaches chew out a player they do not coach. For example a DB coach yelling at a RB for cutting inside too early. If you don't know 100% what they are being taught, don't try to correct them. THE WORST! It seems like there is always that guy on every staff though. The sad part is usually HIS position group is the worst coached group on the team.
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Post by RuningOutOfOptions on Aug 31, 2017 10:20:05 GMT -6
What frustrates me is when for example coaches chew out a player they do not coach. For example a DB coach yelling at a RB for cutting inside too early. If you don't know 100% what they are being taught, don't try to correct them. THE WORST! It seems like there is always that guy on every staff though. The sad part is usually HIS position group is the worst coached group on the team. Has happened to me several time, I've even done that once my first season coaching. But the HC asked me politely to walk with him, at which point he told me he would throw me out of the staff with my head up my behind if he caught me doing it again. All with a calm voice and smile on his face. Glad I coached under him.
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Post by dytmook on Aug 31, 2017 11:39:22 GMT -6
I will always ask the group coach before I say something to a kid from another position group unless it involves blocking. If it is a blocking thing I'll only say something about keeping hands inside, moving feet, and when to let go to avoid holding.
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Post by fantom on Aug 31, 2017 12:04:47 GMT -6
The only thing that I'll chew out a kid outside of my jurisdiction is something involving effort or attitude. Technique and assignments? I have my own problems.
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Post by olcoach53 on Aug 31, 2017 12:33:42 GMT -6
When I was an assistant I would only speak to other positions about effort or something in direct correlation to the offensive line i.e., the line said watch his block on this play, or things like that. Never anything about technique or rules.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Aug 31, 2017 12:38:39 GMT -6
Yesterday after a JV game (which we won 12-0), the opposing coach told me how he was on his 4th string QB and they have a bunch of injuries.
How about "good game coach"? Or if you're going to play the injury card, tell me before the game so it doesn't sound like a sorry excuse for losing if you tell me after.
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Post by coachZL on Aug 31, 2017 14:02:10 GMT -6
The OC and I (the DC) get along pretty good. We work well together and like any friends talk a little smack back and forth. So when he says things like this I know its just talking smack but its really fires me up. Last week our team lost 42-28 and to be honest it didn't feel that close. However, we do weekly goals for Offense and Defense (if we accomplish x,y,z we win). So this we one of his goals is 42.5 points. Our head says "I like the half point, getting them ready for Vegas". OC say "no our defense average is 42 per game so We are just trying to score more than that." Its true, they did score 42 against us. However Offense/special teams gave up 14 of those 42. A safety, a Punt Return for TD, 2 point conversion defense stops, and a fumble returned for TD and a failed 2 point conversion (cant say defense stopped them the QB fell after taking the hand off). I know hes just talking smack but things like that get me fired up.
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Post by coachriley on Aug 31, 2017 18:23:11 GMT -6
What frustrates me is when for example coaches chew out a player they do not coach. For example a DB coach yelling at a RB for cutting inside too early. If you don't know 100% what they are being taught, don't try to correct them. Yeah I had this happy just earlier today at practice. Our secondary coach is ripping my center on everything while I am trying to work with him on his technique, nevermind that it is the kid's first day snapping a football after losing our starting center. It just blows my mind that coaches like that have nothing else to worry about.
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Post by famar on Aug 31, 2017 21:37:25 GMT -6
Two new ones from this week:
* We had a freshmen scrimmage today, and 15 minutes into yesterday's practice one of our coaches gets an email with the freshmen physical list. Two of our players don't have physicals so we immediately pull them from practice. After practice we notify the head coach, and after he goes into his office, he informs us that those two kids actually do have physicals and that whomever sent the email was working from an old list.
* Found out Monday that our check for Hudl which was written July 1 had yet to be sent.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Sept 12, 2017 9:38:33 GMT -6
Parents that lose their mind when the JV gets blown out once.
Our JV was competitive the first two games but got blown out last week. A couple, whose son is the fifth string corner and make excuses for him to miss practice every week, were heckling the coaches saying they don't know how to call an offense and that the QB sucked and when the 18-year-old first year QB coach turned around to look who was screaming they asked him WTF he was looking at and he should turn around and actually do his job as a coach. Next morning dad was waiting in the parking lot for the head varsity coach to tell him that we're extremely talented, we're underachieving and the hallmark of a real program is how good their JV is...
...funny part is we don't have a single guy with an offer and our JV is typically competitive.
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Post by coachZL on Sept 12, 2017 10:44:40 GMT -6
Parents that lose their mind when the JV gets blown out once. Our JV was competitive the first two games but got blown out last week. A couple, whose son is the fifth string corner and make excuses for him to miss practice every week, were heckling the coaches saying they don't know how to call an offense and that the QB sucked and when the 18-year-old first year QB coach turned around to look who was screaming they asked him WTF he was looking at and he should turn around and actually do his job as a coach. Next morning dad was waiting in the parking lot for the head varsity coach to tell him that we're extremely talented, we're underachieving and the hallmark of a real program is how good their JV is... ...funny part is we don't have a single guy with an offer and our JV is typically competitive. As The Fresh Prince of Bel Air said "No need to argue, parents just don't understand"
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Post by dytmook on Sept 12, 2017 11:57:33 GMT -6
Parents that lose their mind when the JV gets blown out once. Our JV was competitive the first two games but got blown out last week. A couple, whose son is the fifth string corner and make excuses for him to miss practice every week, were heckling the coaches saying they don't know how to call an offense and that the QB sucked and when the 18-year-old first year QB coach turned around to look who was screaming they asked him WTF he was looking at and he should turn around and actually do his job as a coach. Next morning dad was waiting in the parking lot for the head varsity coach to tell him that we're extremely talented, we're underachieving and the hallmark of a real program is how good their JV is... ...funny part is we don't have a single guy with an offer and our JV is typically competitive. So many coaches are fired because of JV performance over varsity.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Sept 21, 2017 20:01:04 GMT -6
Parents that lose their mind when the JV gets blown out once. Our JV was competitive the first two games but got blown out last week. A couple, whose son is the fifth string corner and make excuses for him to miss practice every week, were heckling the coaches saying they don't know how to call an offense and that the QB sucked and when the 18-year-old first year QB coach turned around to look who was screaming they asked him WTF he was looking at and he should turn around and actually do his job as a coach. Next morning dad was waiting in the parking lot for the head varsity coach to tell him that we're extremely talented, we're underachieving and the hallmark of a real program is how good their JV is... ...funny part is we don't have a single guy with an offer and our JV is typically competitive. A few weeks later....more insane parents. Today one of them tried to get into the OC's face after the JV game. Between this and making a crap ton of excuses for their kids to miss practice, this group of JV parents is toxic. Worse than usual.
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Post by rsmith627 on Sept 21, 2017 20:43:27 GMT -6
Parents that lose their mind when the JV gets blown out once. Our JV was competitive the first two games but got blown out last week. A couple, whose son is the fifth string corner and make excuses for him to miss practice every week, were heckling the coaches saying they don't know how to call an offense and that the QB sucked and when the 18-year-old first year QB coach turned around to look who was screaming they asked him WTF he was looking at and he should turn around and actually do his job as a coach. Next morning dad was waiting in the parking lot for the head varsity coach to tell him that we're extremely talented, we're underachieving and the hallmark of a real program is how good their JV is... ...funny part is we don't have a single guy with an offer and our JV is typically competitive. A few weeks later....more insane parents. Today one of them tried to get into the OC's face after the JV game. Between this and making a crap ton of excuses for their kids to miss practice, this group of JV parents is toxic. Worse than usual. We are having a similar year with our JV team.
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Post by newt21 on Sept 22, 2017 5:19:04 GMT -6
Teams that are up by 30 still onside kicking
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Post by blb on Sept 22, 2017 6:06:42 GMT -6
Teams that are up by 30 still onside kicking
...or teams that are down by 30 late in the game onside kicking.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Sept 22, 2017 22:58:01 GMT -6
Bus drivers that ignore the GPS and go off roading.
Massive let downs after big wins.
Teams that complete tipped passes for long touchdowns against us when we're in man.
Having touchdowns called back because a moron is holding on a screen pass. A freaking screen.
Letting a team you're better than and a staff you know you're smarter than and outwork beat you during their homecoming. And then getting on your phone and finding out the team you're playing next beat a really good team they weren't supposed to.
Losing with the first principal ever to hire you come to the game to support you.
All of it happened to us tonight. It's going to take a lot of beer to forget this one.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 22, 2017 23:06:02 GMT -6
Bus drivers that ignore the GPS and go off roading. Massive let downs after big wins. Teams that complete tipped passes for long touchdowns against us when we're in man. Having touchdowns called back because a moron is holding on a screen pass. A freaking screen. Letting a team you're better than and a staff you know you're smarter than and outwork beat you during their homecoming. And then getting on your phone and finding out the team you're playing next beat a really good team they weren't supposed to. Losing with the first principal ever to hire you come to the game to support you. All of it happened to us tonight. It's going to take a lot of beer to forget this one. Bobby Knight said the best time to beat a team is after they had a huge win because they focus on that game more than the next one. And the 21st amendment remains intact...so it could be worse.
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 22, 2017 23:24:05 GMT -6
Bus drivers that ignore the GPS and go off roading. Massive let downs after big wins. Teams that complete tipped passes for long touchdowns against us when we're in man. Having touchdowns called back because a moron is holding on a screen pass. A freaking screen. Letting a team you're better than and a staff you know you're smarter than and outwork beat you during their homecoming. And then getting on your phone and finding out the team you're playing next beat a really good team they weren't supposed to. Losing with the first principal ever to hire you come to the game to support you. All of it happened to us tonight. It's going to take a lot of beer to forget this one. Bobby Knight said the best time to beat a team is after they had a huge win because they focus on that game more than the next one. And the 21st amendment remains intact...so it could be worse. +1 on your Constitutional knowledge, I might have to follow you
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Post by Defcord on Sept 23, 2017 9:42:51 GMT -6
Bobby Knight said the best time to beat a team is after they had a huge win because they focus on that game more than the next one. And the 21st amendment remains intact...so it could be worse. +1 on your Constitutional knowledge, I might have to follow you Ha...it usually takes knowing one like the 11th or 25th to impress anyone. 14 years of teaching government...any other category on Jeopardy and I get blanked.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 11:05:04 GMT -6
What frustrates me is when for example coaches chew out a player they do not coach. For example a DB coach yelling at a RB for cutting inside too early. If you don't know 100% what they are being taught, don't try to correct them. THE WORST! It seems like there is always that guy on every staff though. The sad part is usually HIS position group is the worst coached group on the team. Been there! And for some reason, it's usually a WR coach. I don't know why, but it's always a WR coach. Years ago I was an OC/OL/DL coach for a team when our 1st year WR coach started going off on our T in practice for "letting your man run right by you!" He was really chewing the kid out and calling him all sorts of names, even as he was down in his stance to run the next play. Well, we were running veer. He was supposed to let the DE run past him so we could read him. The kid turned and looked at me like "what the hell!?" I told the kid he was doing the right thing and politely told that guy to shut the f*** up. The really f***** up part was that our HC, who was 27 himself and liked partying with this guy, sided with him when I started going off about this in the coaches office after practice Unfortunately, he got in the ears of some parents and players, so pretty soon some of the kids started blocking the wrong guy. That was not a fun year.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Sept 28, 2017 22:07:11 GMT -6
I don't know why but it rages me when teams brag about winning league titles at the JV and/or freshman level. There's a school in our league that has posted on social media for years about how good their lower levels are every week but they haven't made in the playoffs since 2013 and haven't won a varsity league title since 2009. A billion hashtags like #startingthefoundation #futureisbright. I literally saw one of their kids at the gym wearing a JV league title shirt. LOL
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Post by wolverine55 on Nov 28, 2017 11:39:16 GMT -6
To go with previous posts about "focusing on other sports" we had two incoming freshmen we thought were going to play this year give us the "focusing on basketball" excuse for not playing football. Then, one of them quit basketball after the first practice and the other quit after the second practice...
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Post by bigmoot on Nov 28, 2017 12:04:47 GMT -6
To go with previous posts about "focusing on other sports" we had two incoming freshmen we thought were going to play this year give us the "focusing on basketball" excuse for not playing football. Then, one of them quit basketball after the first practice and the other quit after the second practice... must be focusing on baseball...
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Post by Coach Vice on Nov 28, 2017 12:32:30 GMT -6
- When a kid says "I'm not playing football this year, but I'm thinking about playing next season." - When people who haven't spent 1 minute in our preparation process criticize how our program is run. - Parents who have NO idea their kid is lazy and refuses to study the playbook.....even after I tell them. - Parents who shake your hand, smile, and tell you "nice job" only to sit in the stands and scream to everyone about how the coaching sucks. - Working ALL WEEK on recognizing a formation that yields only ONE play and than giving up a big gain on that play. - Parents who think their slightly above average kid is going to play basketball/baseball/Track/etc. in college so they don't want them to play football because they don't want to risk them getting hurt.
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Post by Coach Vice on Nov 28, 2017 12:37:04 GMT -6
....oh yeah. Officials who see a penalty and don't throw the flag because it's "not my call".
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 28, 2017 13:30:24 GMT -6
I was the JV head coach and my OC (his name was Archie) was awful. Didn't know the system, didn't know which plays or players to go to in a given situation, just an all around goofball. I'd often correct his playcalling which drove him nuts. I had a really great DC and he hated the OC's guts. I swear, I was like Dr. Phil all season keeping the two from killing each other. The players loved the DC and they hated the OC, to the point that they'd clown him when he wasn't around. I hated it and I always put a stop to it but kids are gonna be kids so that's what they did.
When our offense was on the field the DC would focus on his defensive guys, getting them prepared for when they'd go back in. When our defense was on the field Archie would freak out and just indiscriminately yell things like, "Watch the pass! Watch the run! It's going to number 26!" The DC and I were always trying to get him to shut it, but he wouldn't. Finally we were in the championship game and it was a dogfight. We had a kid we nicknamed "Stones" that was our middle linebacker that was literally 4'11" and 105 lbs but the toughest motherhumper on the field at any given time. Time was running out and we were trying to shut down their final drive and finish. Our DC was calling out instruction to a couple kids, adjusting them and the OC was hollering, "It's a sweep! No, it's a screen, gotta watch the screen! QB keeper!" and finally Stones just yelled, "ARCHIE, would you shut the eff up so we can hear?!?" It was said at the perfect time, split second where there was no noise and you could hear it throughout the stadium. Everybody died laughing, even the officials. Stones said it and then got right back into it and made a play. We went on to win. It's one of my favorite football memories of all time.
So to the point, what makes me rage - frigging coaches that don't know what they're talking about yelling at kids during the game.
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