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Post by shocktroop34 on Dec 12, 2016 6:58:21 GMT -6
How open and honest is your football staff? In general terms, do you all share personal and family information and such? I was just thinking about some of the staffs I've been on in the past. How much do coaches confide in one another anymore?
Trying to think of the dynamics that made coaching fun, regardless of our record.
When I was in the military, there were things that guys in my platoon knew about me that I could tell no one else.
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Post by realdawg on Dec 12, 2016 8:40:41 GMT -6
I would say not the whole staff. I will share some personal stories with the whole staff at times. But I am closest to about 3 guys and we share more personal/family stuff/ask for advice amongst each other. We are also the 3 guys who are around each other the most. So
It makes sense we would be the closest.
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Post by PSS on Dec 12, 2016 8:49:40 GMT -6
This is one of the closest staffs that I have been on. When you're working together 7 days a week for 18 weeks how can you not be?
Not only are we close as a staff but our families are close. After home games we eat together at the field house. There is a wide range of ages within our staff. Some of of have older children, even grown and out of the house. Others have babies and toddlers. The wives take care of each other.
There are things that we share with other that we wouldn't share with others. By being open and honest we are able to work through a lot of situations and problems.
It does make coaching more enjoyable when you don't dread going to work every day because of the people you work with.
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Post by olcoach53 on Dec 12, 2016 8:54:41 GMT -6
First and foremost there has to be respect. Respect is huge. First comes respect then comes trust then comes being close. I would love to work for and with guys that have those three qualities, unfortunately it doesn't always happen.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 12, 2016 9:00:04 GMT -6
I have to be close to someone on a staff before I talk about my personal life. And, that's pretty rare for me.
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Post by runthei on Dec 12, 2016 9:12:35 GMT -6
I spend more time with theses guys than I do my family so yes, we are open, honest and get personal. Now...there are some guys I won't open up to completely because they'll go home and tell momma and momma will tell girlfriend and so on and so on.
When you're on a staff it's sort of an intimate relationship you enter in to. People see you for who you are. They see you at your best and they see you at their worst and they see how you react in both. The staff I'm on has been together for about 5 years now and we know each other's quirks, strengths, and weaknesses and have done a good job at bridging together where others are weak. I wouldn't trade these guys for anyone in the world right now.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Dec 12, 2016 10:28:24 GMT -6
There's 8 other guys on the staff I'm on, 6 of them are some of the people I'm closest to and I would be comfortable telling them anything. Our kids hang out, wives hang out, etc. We are friends that also coach football together, it's pretty cool and rewarding. The other 2 are good guys, I just haven't known them long enough and worked together long enough to develop that same type of friendship yet.
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Post by wingtol on Dec 12, 2016 10:38:56 GMT -6
We're pretty unique with our staff. of us total. HC I have know since we were 4 years old, best man in each others weddings. Another guy on staff I have known since middle school and was in his wedding and he was in mine. QB coach I had in class my first year teaching and has been coaching with us for a long time now, we are great friends and he lives like 2 blocks from me. Ast OL coach has also been with us a long time so we know him well. First year guy played QB for us and we have been hanging out with him before he started to coach. Coach who was a hold over from the last staff is a local legend and also one of the best humans I have ever been around and has fit right in.
Needless to say we are a tight bunch with no ego's and everyone knows their role since we have been together basically since '05. I have been lucky to coach with guys I have really gotten along with over my career and as others have said spending that much time with people leads to getting to know someone pretty good. Not sure how it would be if I coached with someone I didn't like.
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Post by hunhdisciple on Dec 12, 2016 11:04:43 GMT -6
There are 2 guys on our current staff who are pretty much family.
It all depends on the ages and various other factors. It's hard to get people who are completely opposite to be that close. But, when you have very similar people working in close proximity for long periods of time, they'll get close naturally I would assume.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 14:33:53 GMT -6
On our staff of 12 coaches the HC has a major ego (I'm okay with it, I think it goes with being the HC). The jv OC is extremely insecure and that manifests itself in him being a know-it-all. Everybody else is very laid back and gets along great. With the exception of the two outliers, I couldn't imagine a tighter staff. They are guys from their mid 50's down to early 20's but we still hang around together off the football field and don't hesitate to share personal matters with each other. Some of the coaches are extremely knowledgeable, others are really novices but they all are working to get better. When you have a common goal like that it's easy to build relationships.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 12, 2016 14:45:38 GMT -6
The best staff I ever coached on wouldn't hire a guy who wouldn't mesh well with the rest of our personalities. We were all pretty laid back guys that communicated well with one another and didn't have big egos. There was a highly qualified former college coach that applied for a position but the HC didn't hire him because he was a micro-manager.
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Post by dytmook on Dec 12, 2016 14:55:41 GMT -6
We have different levels of trust throughout our staff and some guys have known each other longer than others but I have no doubt we have each other's back. We have young family guys and older guys so some obvious differences on who you talk to what about but when someone needs something, we take care of them.
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Post by olcoach53 on Dec 12, 2016 18:02:00 GMT -6
On our staff of 12 coaches the HC has a major ego (I'm okay with it, I think it goes with being the HC). The jv OC is extremely insecure and that manifests itself in him being a know-it-all. Everybody else is very laid back and gets along great. With the exception of the two outliers, I couldn't imagine a tighter staff. They are guys from their mid 50's down to early 20's but we still hang around together off the football field and don't hesitate to share personal matters with each other. Some of the coaches are extremely knowledgeable, others are really novices but they all are working to get better. When you have a common goal like that it's easy to build relationships. Backwards visor? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 20:30:52 GMT -6
On our staff of 12 coaches the HC has a major ego (I'm okay with it, I think it goes with being the HC). The jv OC is extremely insecure and that manifests itself in him being a know-it-all. Everybody else is very laid back and gets along great. With the exception of the two outliers, I couldn't imagine a tighter staff. They are guys from their mid 50's down to early 20's but we still hang around together off the football field and don't hesitate to share personal matters with each other. Some of the coaches are extremely knowledgeable, others are really novices but they all are working to get better. When you have a common goal like that it's easy to build relationships. Backwards visor? lol, yes. Seriously. To make it worse, he has a mustache that is grey and he dyes it about every two or three days. So you're looking at him and noticing his upper lip looks like a skunk but you can't laugh in his face. |
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Post by shocktroop34 on Dec 12, 2016 20:31:56 GMT -6
The best staff I ever coached on wouldn't hire a guy who wouldn't mesh well with the rest of our personalities. We were all pretty laid back guys that communicated well with one another and didn't have big egos. There was a highly qualified former college coach that applied for a position but the HC didn't hire him because he was a micro-manager. Props to the HC: Relationship over resume. |
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Post by carookie on Dec 12, 2016 20:58:42 GMT -6
Like most, I've been on some close staffs and some where people were not that close at all. For certain, the culture the HC sets has a lot to do with this but I would also add the station where everyone is in life also plays a role. Closest staff I was on had a lot of other coaches who were about my age, married, and whose kids were the same age as mine; also our wives all got along well.
They were all good guys who were on the same page, and that helps a lot too.
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Post by georgefred86 on Dec 12, 2016 21:07:34 GMT -6
I have been on a number of staffs and what has already been said above I completely agree with ... the best staffs are the closest staffs, and the most successful in my experience. We preach FAMILY to our players, however, if it isn't about family as a staff then those words become pretty hallow. As a young assistant growing up in this profession I always promised myself that I would surround myself with guys that love the game and the kids. For me it has always been about the guys you roll with ... they better be fun, knowledgable about the game and want to work to be successful.
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Post by coachphillip on Dec 12, 2016 21:28:45 GMT -6
Someone nailed it up above, respect. When I work with people I respect, I am open and honest and everything is great. When I work with people who I don't respect, I am courteous and get in and get out.
It doesn't take much to get my respect. Just love the kids, love the game, and be willing to work hard to help this thing succeed. Unfortunately, some guys are not these things.
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Post by coachbdud on Dec 12, 2016 23:20:45 GMT -6
we are pretty close as a staff
kind of like a family... we even have that crazy uncle that says stuff that angers you but everyone kind of just lets him hang around cuz well... he's your crazy uncle
we are all pretty open to one another, pretty honest
have had a little bickering here and there but overall we all get along well and i consider all the guys i work with on our varsity staff to be friends
we hang out outside of school/practice
our families spend some time together
we go out to eat at Chili's after almost every game, win or lose
all people i would enjoy getting lunch with or watching a game with even if i did not coach with them
2 of the guys on staff i went to HS with... one of them has been one of my best friends since HS... i was in his wedding and performed the ceremony for him and his wife (i have officiated several weddings)
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Post by tabs52 on Dec 13, 2016 4:46:10 GMT -6
How open and honest is your football staff? In general terms, do you all share personal and family information and such? I was just thinking about some of the staffs I've been on in the past. How much do coaches confide in one another anymore?
Trying to think of the dynamics that made coaching fun, regardless of our record.
When I was in the military, there were things that guys in my platoon knew about me that I could tell no one else.
Just curious if that aspect is alive among coaching staffs anymore... To an extend we are just one family, in the end we are our inner circle and we discuss everything from football, to family. I know went through personal stuff recently, and believe talking to those worked better for me then anything else I could of done |
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Post by coachcb on Dec 13, 2016 8:37:48 GMT -6
The best staff I ever coached on wouldn't hire a guy who wouldn't mesh well with the rest of our personalities. We were all pretty laid back guys that communicated well with one another and didn't have big egos. There was a highly qualified former college coach that applied for a position but the HC didn't hire him because he was a micro-manager. Props to the HC: Relationship over resume. We had a few younger, inexperienced coaches on staff but they worked well with everyone and were eager to learn. It made life much easier. I liked the college coach that applied but I imagine I would have had a difficult time working with him. He would have been the DC. |
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Post by fantom on Dec 13, 2016 9:05:41 GMT -6
This topic has me somewhat confused. What would be the opposite of an "open and honest staff"? Are you really asking if we work with good guys or douches?
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Post by coachtua on Dec 13, 2016 13:04:13 GMT -6
Current staff is pretty open we are all around the same age. We have no problem calling each other out for slacking. A few of us are closer than with the others because we were HS teammates. One is one of my closest friends.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Dec 13, 2016 18:05:00 GMT -6
This topic has me somewhat confused. What would be the opposite of an "open and honest staff"? Are you really asking if we work with good guys or douches? Not quite. The question stemmed from listening to a pastor speak about how many people in positions of authority have very few people to open up to. I saw a good coach in my area get ground to dust because he internalized everything and didn't have much rapport with his staff. In other news, I thought the OP was pretty clear. |
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