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Post by carookie on Nov 21, 2016 21:02:00 GMT -6
So I think most of us are familiar with IMG academy- a private school that was specifically designed specifically to cater to the needs of athletic students. My question is if there is any other schools near anyone that is similar.
For certain there are plenty of private schools that recruit and are dominant in athletics, but I am looking for schools that directly articulate that they are designed for athletes.
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Post by coachg125 on Nov 21, 2016 21:13:00 GMT -6
What about Montverde Academy and Findlay Prep? Not 100% sure if those fit the bill but I have heard many compare those two schools to IMG in terms of how they run their day-to-day operations.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Nov 21, 2016 21:22:08 GMT -6
I believe that Findlay Prep is strictly a basketball academy. Like I think the entire student population is something like 15 kids that play basketball. Not 100% sure of that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 5:43:50 GMT -6
Theyre more prevalent than you think, theyre just very discreet about it. If you look at any school on the top 100 ( USA today etc..) you only need to speak with any of their opponents.
Ive learned alot about the "Super schools" that way
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 22, 2016 5:56:55 GMT -6
Theyre more prevalent than you think, theyre just very discreet about it. If you look at any school on the top 100 ( USA today etc..) you only need to speak with any of their opponents. Ive learned alot about the "Super schools" that way I have to disagree here...at least if you are talking about FOOTBALL. IMG is the only school that I know of that operates as it does with regards to FOOTBALL. Here in Louisiana..the "super schools" such as Evangel, John Curtis etc still have a majority of students who aren't playing football, who win academic achievements and accolades in state competitions etc.
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Post by rsmith627 on Nov 22, 2016 6:04:32 GMT -6
Anybody want to start one? We can start it as a public charter geared toward the business aspect of sports. We can teach our studs how to hire agents and negotiate deals for the best SEC schools and beyond.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 6:31:25 GMT -6
Theyre more prevalent than you think, theyre just very discreet about it. If you look at any school on the top 100 ( USA today etc..) you only need to speak with any of their opponents. Ive learned alot about the "Super schools" that way I have to disagree here...at least if you are talking about FOOTBALL. IMG is the only school that I know of that operates as it does with regards to FOOTBALL. Here in Louisiana..the "super schools" such as Evangel, John Curtis etc still have a majority of students who aren't playing football, who win academic achievements and accolades in state competitions etc. Understood, and im sure that doesnt pertain to all the super schools. But id be willing to venture this holds true on the majority of cases, for example Bosco (nj) Gorman, etc...and i know in this area its prevalent.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 22, 2016 6:33:48 GMT -6
I have to disagree here...at least if you are talking about FOOTBALL. IMG is the only school that I know of that operates as it does with regards to FOOTBALL. Here in Louisiana..the "super schools" such as Evangel, John Curtis etc still have a majority of students who aren't playing football, who win academic achievements and accolades in state competitions etc. Understood, and im sure that doesnt pertain to all the super schools. But id be willing to venture this holds true on the majority of cases, for example Bosco (nj) Gorman, etc...and i know in this area its prevalent. Bosco and Gorman are actual schools, that educate students who are not athletes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 6:41:03 GMT -6
Understood, and im sure that doesnt pertain to all the super schools. But id be willing to venture this holds true on the majority of cases, for example Bosco (nj) Gorman, etc...and i know in this area its prevalent. Bosco and Gorman are actual schools, that educate students who are not athletes. Yes I understand tha, the point I was making was pertaining to recruiting which is well known with these two particular institutions. In the case of Grmon I believe a senator tried to ban them from competition at one point. Because of that
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 22, 2016 6:55:40 GMT -6
Bosco and Gorman are actual schools, that educate students who are not athletes. Yes I understand tha, the point I was making was pertaining to recruiting which is well known with these two particular institutions. In the case of Grmon I believe a senator tried to ban them from competition at one point. Because of that Understood, but the OP already specifically addressed that. You stated " they are more prevalent than you think" but he already acknowledged that "regular" schools recruit and have success, and he is not interested in those--but rather schools that specifically are geared to athletes. I was just pointing out that the "they" you refer to are not the "they" he is inquiring about. The type of school he is asking about is NOT more prevalent than one would think.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 6:59:33 GMT -6
Ahhh my fault, I thought he was referring to recruiting disregard
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Post by pvogel on Nov 22, 2016 7:07:34 GMT -6
The biggest travesty about IMG imo is that they advertise themselves as a developmental academy. But if that was the case then they wouldnt be taking kids as transfers. If thats your thing then take them as 6th graders and DEVELOP them into blue-chippers, rather than taking a bunch of transfers that already have big time offers, taking them away from their homes for their senior year, and putting them on a team with a 10 game schedule that can't even play in a state championship.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 22, 2016 7:18:30 GMT -6
The biggest travesty about IMG imo is that they advertise themselves as a developmental academy. But if that was the case then they wouldnt be taking kids as transfers. If thats your thing then take them as 6th graders and DEVELOP them into blue-chippers, rather than taking a bunch of transfers that already have big time offers, taking them away from their homes for their senior year, and putting them on a team with a 10 game schedule that can't even play in a state championship. I have to disagree a bit here. They aren't "developing" in the sense that they are increasing their athletic prowess as much as they are developing (or claim to be developing) the students to be able excel at a level higher than HS by handling the other factors that go into it. The athletes that are going there are already scholarship worthy for the most part. That isn't what really separates athletes once they get into their college/ professional associations.
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Post by tsmitty45 on Nov 22, 2016 10:41:26 GMT -6
Yes I understand tha, the point I was making was pertaining to recruiting which is well known with these two particular institutions. In the case of Grmon I believe a senator tried to ban them from competition at one point. Because of that Understood, but the OP already specifically addressed that. You stated " they are more prevalent than you think" but he already acknowledged that "regular" schools recruit and have success, and he is not interested in those--but rather schools that specifically are geared to athletes. I was just pointing out that the "they" you refer to are not the "they" he is inquiring about. The type of school he is asking about is NOT more prevalent than one would think.
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Post by tothehouse on Nov 22, 2016 10:47:16 GMT -6
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Nov 22, 2016 14:00:06 GMT -6
Deion tried with Prime time prep But was suppose to be ran as a charter And pretty sure he didn't have anybody with an education background Running the school . Lasted like 2 or 3 years.
Most others I believe are basketball factories
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Post by tanavea on Nov 22, 2016 17:53:39 GMT -6
I was about to mention Prime Time Prep as well, and there was another school here in Utah that did the same thing but they were banned from the High School Activities Association so they played teams from Canada. The school only lasted 1 year. I think they probably happen but end up closing down because of money or they have the wrong people running it. It's not like anybody can create a school and get kids to attend then get great athletes to attend year in and year out. IMG is the exception. Prime Time Prep is the rule. Don't say Bishop Gorman is the exception too because they've been around a loong time.
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Post by tsmitty45 on Nov 28, 2016 9:11:37 GMT -6
For some reason, my other post didn't go through properly. IMG is a school that is only optional for a student participating in athletics. You have to declare for 1 sport and stick to it. It is not a regular school that recruits athletes. It is only an option if you are an athlete (or the sibling of an athlete).
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Post by mnike23 on Nov 28, 2016 12:11:30 GMT -6
The biggest travesty about IMG imo is that they advertise themselves as a developmental academy. But if that was the case then they wouldnt be taking kids as transfers. If thats your thing then take them as 6th graders and DEVELOP them into blue-chippers, rather than taking a bunch of transfers that already have big time offers, taking them away from their homes for their senior year, and putting them on a team with a 10 game schedule that can't even play in a state championship. i completly disagree here. why is it a travesty? it is what it is, a school that recruits openly. takes in the best of the best, puts them in a fantastic facility, football wise-are coached and educated at a college type atmosphere level. workout, school, film, practice, school, workout, lights out. just like if they were in college. they cant play in state title games because of the open recruiting, but wait for the new fla rule on open enrollment. i bet at some point they do play in fhsaa. monteverde someone mentioned is a bball powerhouse in the country. football shutdown last year. it was a joke. tried to pull the same crap they do for bball, it didnt work.
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Post by coachluey on Nov 28, 2016 13:43:11 GMT -6
Deion tried with Prime time prep But was suppose to be ran as a charter And pretty sure he didn't have anybody with an education background Running the school . Lasted like 2 or 3 years. Most others I believe are basketball factories He is still trying here in Texas. He has now attached himself with Triple A academy and is "gearing it for underprivileged athletes". The problem with this is they are a charter competing for state with Public schools (not supposed to be able to do that here). The problem is he is recruiting from all areas including those from out of state and finding a way to get away with it.
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Post by Chris Clement on Nov 30, 2016 8:13:36 GMT -6
There's Canada Prep in Niagara Falls. They started off as a complete disaster the first year or two, just awash in scandal. A new guy came in and sorted things out and now it's an adequate school. Given the structure of the Ontario curriculum it's pretty hard for a school to offer a bad education so that's good. You can debate the on field quality but they definitely had great individual players over the years.
Recently it's gotten tougher because the market is now very saturated here with knockoffs (RICC, for example) and variations (Football North).
It may be of interest to some here to check out Quebec's S-A-E program.
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