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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 11, 2016 14:12:04 GMT -6
Finding a way to eliminate any down time for the JV kids. We coach Var/JV as a staff, and we feel like we don't get them enough team reps. It is my fault as HC and needs to be addressed. we used to send the lower JV down to "scrimmage" w/ the Frosh
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 11, 2016 14:15:17 GMT -6
I am planning to change completely the flow of practice. Forever, we go kicking... off indy... off groups... off team...kicking...Def indy... def groups... def team... conditioning. We are looking at running the majority of practice like a simulated game. Doing indy for both sides to start on monday and tuesday, then simulated a game. We are gonna script the results so we get everything covered, but no more 30 minutes of kids standing on side watching during team periods. At first this will take a little extra time, but we are hoping it helps with getting kids in field for sp teams, hoping also it helps cut down on the standing around. We plan to do indy at the end on wednesday so that we can fix what we need to based off of what we struggled with in practice. Also plan to end every practice with some kind of end of the game situation. ie hail mary off/def... taking knee, taking safety, 2 minute drill, tight punt, etc....Any thought on how we could make this better would be welcomed. Are you a two platoon system?
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Post by natenator on Nov 11, 2016 15:33:55 GMT -6
We used the heavier rubber rolling balls (college uses them to work with DL on preventing cut blocks) to practice wrong arming pullers and our DL tackling dive on option offenses. We used it sparingly last year.... will be a major emphasis in drill/ indy time next year. Care to elaborate?
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Post by newt21 on Nov 11, 2016 21:40:12 GMT -6
I am planning to change completely the flow of practice. Forever, we go kicking... off indy... off groups... off team...kicking...Def indy... def groups... def team... conditioning. We are looking at running the majority of practice like a simulated game. Doing indy for both sides to start on monday and tuesday, then simulated a game. We are gonna script the results so we get everything covered, but no more 30 minutes of kids standing on side watching during team periods. At first this will take a little extra time, but we are hoping it helps with getting kids in field for sp teams, hoping also it helps cut down on the standing around. We plan to do indy at the end on wednesday so that we can fix what we need to based off of what we struggled with in practice. Also plan to end every practice with some kind of end of the game situation. ie hail mary off/def... taking knee, taking safety, 2 minute drill, tight punt, etc....Any thought on how we could make this better would be welcomed. We have a simulated game every week, but it's only one day. Our schedule is different because we're middle school, so we have games on Wednesdays, which allows us to do simulated games on Friday (livening up a normally dead practice day). It normally lasts 25-30 minutes, I let the QB's call formations and plays (I will give suggestions upon request), but they have to be ready to answer "why" did you call that, and "because I thought it would work" isn't acceptable. Makes the kids really buy into the system and learn it in depth.
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Post by nltdiego on Nov 14, 2016 8:12:03 GMT -6
We have two tackling rings. Great investment. Which one? How much were they?
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Post by cwaltsmith on Nov 14, 2016 8:18:40 GMT -6
I am planning to change completely the flow of practice. Forever, we go kicking... off indy... off groups... off team...kicking...Def indy... def groups... def team... conditioning. We are looking at running the majority of practice like a simulated game. Doing indy for both sides to start on monday and tuesday, then simulated a game. We are gonna script the results so we get everything covered, but no more 30 minutes of kids standing on side watching during team periods. At first this will take a little extra time, but we are hoping it helps with getting kids in field for sp teams, hoping also it helps cut down on the standing around. We plan to do indy at the end on wednesday so that we can fix what we need to based off of what we struggled with in practice. Also plan to end every practice with some kind of end of the game situation. ie hail mary off/def... taking knee, taking safety, 2 minute drill, tight punt, etc....Any thought on how we could make this better would be welcomed. Are you a two platoon system? No not completely...
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 14, 2016 9:21:18 GMT -6
Are you a two platoon system? No not completely... what will your 2 way players do?
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Post by cwaltsmith on Nov 14, 2016 9:40:18 GMT -6
what will your 2 way players do? Im a little confused by question... We will do kickoff return, then offensive team vs scout for x number of plays, then extra point, then kickoff team, then team defense vs scout for x number of plays, then punt return or block, then off team again, then punt, then defense team, then fg block, then kickoff return, then team offense, ...the theory is that it would keep kids moving and keep tempo of practice from getting stale. If we are in team offense and need to look at something we will stop and look at it but try to limit those occurances. I agree, it will take lots of planning and attention to making sure we dont lose reps, but I believe the energy will be better and more kids will stay attentive in during team.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Nov 14, 2016 10:07:12 GMT -6
Def more of a plan for the injured dudes. Need an exercise bike by the field and some med balls and yoga balls/mats. We don't have an athletic trainer so it'll have to be my responsibility as SS&C coach.
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Post by gibbs72 on Nov 14, 2016 10:21:15 GMT -6
We used the heavier rubber rolling balls (college uses them to work with DL on preventing cut blocks) to practice wrong arming pullers and our DL tackling dive on option offenses. We used it sparingly last year.... will be a major emphasis in drill/ indy time next year. Care to elaborate? For teams that run veer/ midline, the heavy rubber ball is the dive back. When we do inside run, the ball is placed where the fullback would be. At the snap, the coach rolls the ball on the fullback path. The DL who is supposed to squeeze and take dive can now squeeze his OL, come down the line, and wrap up/ roll the heavy ball. He has to be quick and low or else he'll bounce off it. Really showed the importance of roll/ Hawk/ Gator tackling. We used it for inside veer and midline. I've tried it for zone read teams if the RB is a bruiser type runner. We expanded the idea of the heavy ball to simulate pullers. For our inside/ trash can drills, the heavy ball would be the puller on trap, counter, power, etc. This gave our squeezing DL something to attack low and wrong arm at full speed. Because the ball is lower and heavier, the DL must attack low and wrong arm hard or he will bounce off it. We got lots of reps tackling dive and wrong arming in a short period of time going full speed without full contact. Very helpful.
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 14, 2016 19:08:15 GMT -6
what will your 2 way players do? Im a little confused by question... We will do kickoff return, then offensive team vs scout for x number of plays, then extra point, then kickoff team, then team defense vs scout for x number of plays, then punt return or block, then off team again, then punt, then defense team, then fg block, then kickoff return, then team offense, ...the theory is that it would keep kids moving and keep tempo of practice from getting stale. If we are in team offense and need to look at something we will stop and look at it but try to limit those occurances. I agree, it will take lots of planning and attention to making sure we dont lose reps, but I believe the energy will be better and more kids will stay attentive in during team. I get it...Yes, do it the "old way" and that 2nd indy period does sometimes get a little stale
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Post by flexbonecoach on Nov 15, 2016 7:28:49 GMT -6
We're going to go live to the ground during the first team period of Defensive practice. Every week. Until it gets so violent that I have to stop it. I had the worst-tackling team I've ever coached this year.
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Post by **** on Nov 18, 2016 13:27:29 GMT -6
We're going to go live to the ground during the first team period of Defensive practice. Every week. Until it gets so violent that I have to stop it. I had the worst-tackling team I've ever coached this year. I've thought about this before. Can't determine if it will help or not.
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Post by coachklee on Nov 18, 2016 19:51:49 GMT -6
As the DC / DL / OL coach I realized that some of my guys pad level was not low & aggressive enough...especially after watching a few of the local play-off games.
The other one was not doing a double or trap drill early enough...we defended trap like crap in week 4...gave up 7 TDs on Trap alone. Also going to probably install an odd front for 2 TE teams earlier & depending how are schedule shakes out it might end up as our base front.
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 19, 2016 2:52:46 GMT -6
We're going to go live to the ground during the first team period of Defensive practice. Every week. Until it gets so violent that I have to stop it. I had the worst-tackling team I've ever coached this year. I've thought about this before. Can't determine if it will help or not. poor tackling is usually a function of athleticism.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 19, 2016 6:25:37 GMT -6
I've thought about this before. Can't determine if it will help or not. poor tackling is usually a function of athleticism. And run fits.
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Post by flexbonecoach on Nov 19, 2016 6:59:50 GMT -6
poor tackling is usually a function of athleticism. And run fits. And effort. An player can miss a 1 on 1 tackle if the ball carrier is a better athlete. But I don't care who you are, you can't jump-cut a gang tackle.
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Post by Yash on Nov 19, 2016 20:06:27 GMT -6
And effort. An player can miss a 1 on 1 tackle if the ball carrier is a better athlete. But I don't care who you are, you can't jump-cut a gang tackle. Also understand that having your starting D tee off on your scout team running back probably won't make them better tacklers, as I'm guessing if he is your scout team running back, he probably isn't starting for anyone else in your league either. I highly frown upon going live vs scout team very often because its not realistic and gives you an unrealistic sense of confidence. You are better off coaching the heck out of run fits, and effort and getting all of your guys around the scout team ball carriers than you are having the first guy there blast a sophomore. You are right that you can't jump cut a gang tackle... so coach the swarm, and getting guys there rather than going live and getting guys hurt.
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Post by jackedup on Dec 1, 2016 12:35:29 GMT -6
Finding a way to eliminate any down time for the JV kids. We coach Var/JV as a staff, and we feel like we don't get them enough team reps. It is my fault as HC and needs to be addressed. Besides too much down time, what other issues have you found coaching jv/v together?
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Post by CBNIndian on Dec 1, 2016 17:19:09 GMT -6
I am going to have our "injured" players carry water bottles and stay with their position group or coach. Got tired of seeing them at practice and supposed to be injured yet throwing the ball or some sort of screwing around.
I also want to buy some tackle rings. Used the shadowman dummies and they worked considering our contact limit we face. Hard to use when your numbers are limited and the time it takes to hook up a 5th string player to pull them. How did anyone that used the tackle rings like them? Seems simple to use by just rolling them.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Dec 2, 2016 8:01:45 GMT -6
Finding a way to eliminate any down time for the JV kids. We coach Var/JV as a staff, and we feel like we don't get them enough team reps. It is my fault as HC and needs to be addressed. Besides too much down time, what other issues have you found coaching jv/v together? Really just not coaching them to the same level of attention and detail that the varsity guys get. Here's the rub: my best coaches are varsity coaches; if we were to be separate I don't think they'd get the attention to detail they need anyway because my sub-varsity staff may not be capable of that (not a knock on them, but there are different levels to our coaching abilities).
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 2, 2016 12:43:39 GMT -6
Finding a way to eliminate any down time for the JV kids. We coach Var/JV as a staff, and we feel like we don't get them enough team reps. It is my fault as HC and needs to be addressed. Agree. We did better this year. It really came down to some coaches having to sacrifice varsity time during team....and being ok with that.
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Post by tabs52 on Dec 3, 2016 12:03:57 GMT -6
One change this year was we sent our DC down with JV b/c he enjoys JV games but he could take care of the problems that might arise and allow the other guys to coach. The kids responded to his presence on the sideline, plus it gave them a sense of being important factor in our program.
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Post by gibbs72 on Dec 7, 2016 10:32:41 GMT -6
I like this idea.... even though I'm the DC. I like working with the young guys anyway.... like to start the building process when they are JH and Frosh so they are as ready to go as they can be by 10th grade. So, if we have to start a sophomore on D, it's a good as can be.
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Post by jaysea40 on Dec 10, 2016 6:49:09 GMT -6
We need to focus on developing more drill progressions for special teams. We had sound plans each week but lost explosiveness when we couldn't execute the fundamentals on the special teams units. My hope is to extended the specials periods each day by five minutes and walk through the concept for the week AND drill the skills required.
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Post by tabs52 on Dec 10, 2016 7:41:05 GMT -6
Special teams is area for my staff thats need to become a focus
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Post by 3rdandlong on Dec 10, 2016 12:12:53 GMT -6
In order to maximize reps and increase tempo, I'm thinking about changing the way we practice team during our spring and camp practices. On one side of the 50 will be an offense vs a defense practicing from the left hash and running 4-5 plays while on the other side, an offense and defense will be running 4-5 plays from the right hash. This means we can get 8-10 plays for 44 players in a span of 1-2 minutes. Once finished, they will all sprint through their respective goaline, to the sideline and onto the other side of the 50 where they will run the plays on the opposite side of the hash. There will be 2 filmers the stands filming one side of the 50
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Post by coachbdud on Dec 10, 2016 12:39:55 GMT -6
We are getting better each year but I still need to find a way for us to get better in the following areas...
1. transition time... i feel we waste too much time, not during practice... that is smooth, but going from weight room, to classroom, to the field
2. Special Teams... we did more INDY time for OL/DL since they arent really on ST, but other guys end up standing around... we need to break up into more INDY time so theres more work and no standing
3. Injured players... they want to sit and talk to water girls, almost need to hire a coach to act as the injured coach... and work those guys out... at the D1 level they have a strength staff to do this
4. too much standing... we end up with guys standing around at times and it kills me, standing leads to talking, talking leads to screwing around
5. overall program discipline... we are too loose as a program and need to tighten things up...
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Post by tabs52 on Dec 10, 2016 15:34:45 GMT -6
Being I am not the HC, I can just suggest changes
1. Need to improve special teams as whole, we don't teach or design drills to get the guys where they need to be, just line run scheme and that is it 2. My trainer was great this year, they were rehabbing, working out if able, or they were the taking care of water 3. My HC is too quick to sh*tcan stuff, we work on inside and outside zone all summer, scheme didn't work after our two scrimmages so he scrapped and went to a man blocking concept, so I wasted an entire summer working specific zone drills 4. Other coaches accountability, very few coaches on the staff will help with all of the daily tasks necessary, also only a few of us enter breakdown data for HUDL 5. Getting away from creating a practice schedule like he did 20 yrs ago, he loves team sessions, and I think our team sessions on Wed. last for about 40 minutes on each side of the ball
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Post by Sonofahitch on Dec 15, 2016 18:15:17 GMT -6
Finding a way to eliminate any down time for the JV kids. We coach Var/JV as a staff, and we feel like we don't get them enough team reps. It is my fault as HC and needs to be addressed. We've struggled with the same issue. We're going to have the freshmen practice with the JV/varsity two days a week. We'll split the staff (7 coaches) so that while the varsity guys practice O, the JV and freshmen practice D, then vice versa. When we break off for Team, the young guys can get a full look, rather than just holding dummies or standing around.
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