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Post by tothehouse on Apr 12, 2016 21:43:00 GMT -6
Pretty much R. Problem is...nobody gives a chit. We have kicked so much ass...I'm guessing everyone probably is enjoying our struggles right now. I have "complained" so much my brain hurts. Now it's time to fix the leaks. Fix the cracks. Fix the system. And block out the madness from the public.
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Post by holmesbend on Apr 12, 2016 21:51:14 GMT -6
I would've recruited the hallways harder the first few years. We had success in year 1 and 2 and I figured the kids would keep coming out so I didn't really recruit the school at all. I paid for it dearly in year 3 and 4. Numbers dropped and we had a hard time being competitive. During season 4 I realized what a mistake I had made so I started going after kids for year 5. In year 5 (last season) we had the biggest team in school history and finished with one of the best records in school history. I don't know any Coach that recruits thier school and middle school as much as I do now but I learned the hard way. I've only coached ten years total so I'm not exactly "old". A couple of serious questions in regards to "recruiting the halls"? 1) How many kids did you get to come out that were already playing other sports? 2) How many kids did you get to come out who weren't playing any sports at all? - How many of the ones weren't playing anything else actually contributed (or ended up contributing) after they came out?
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Post by Wingtman on Apr 13, 2016 10:16:03 GMT -6
My first 3 years I was the worst coach in America. I tried to get by on what I knew, instead of learning. My second year, at my second job, I was a junior high head coach, we had success, but I was an arrogent jerk. I alienated kids, parents, all of it. It took being fired from that job, and being humbled and working with the guy who gave me my first job to become a better coach. So basically I wasted 5 years.
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Post by redandwhite on Apr 13, 2016 11:21:48 GMT -6
Having just recently resigned as a HC after 30 years, if I could go back and do it over again, I wouldn't be a Head Coach. I would be a coordinator or a position coach and just coach football and work with the kids. Head Coaching has, IMO, evolved into being a CEO who spends more time dealing with everything except actually coaching.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 7:10:43 GMT -6
My first 3 years I was the worst coach in America. I tried to get by on what I knew, instead of learning. My second year, at my second job, I was a junior high head coach, we had success, but I was an arrogent jerk. I alienated kids, parents, all of it. It took being fired from that job, and being humbled and working with the guy who gave me my first job to become a better coach. So basically I wasted 5 years. I disagree...I think you just had 5 years of on the job training. Duece
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Post by wolverine55 on Apr 14, 2016 8:32:20 GMT -6
I don't have a specific "what if" moment, but in general I wish I had taken more advantage of the learning opportunity I had at my first school. I worked for a great staff, but since it was my first job, I took it for granted and just sort of assumed most staffs were that way.
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Post by lions23 on Apr 14, 2016 9:33:34 GMT -6
I would've recruited the hallways harder the first few years. We had success in year 1 and 2 and I figured the kids would keep coming out so I didn't really recruit the school at all. I paid for it dearly in year 3 and 4. Numbers dropped and we had a hard time being competitive. During season 4 I realized what a mistake I had made so I started going after kids for year 5. In year 5 (last season) we had the biggest team in school history and finished with one of the best records in school history. I don't know any Coach that recruits thier school and middle school as much as I do now but I learned the hard way. I've only coached ten years total so I'm not exactly "old". A couple of serious questions in regards to "recruiting the halls"? 1) How many kids did you get to come out that were already playing other sports? 2) How many kids did you get to come out who weren't playing any sports at all? - How many of the ones weren't playing anything else actually contributed (or ended up contributing) after they came out?
We take lots of pride in this as a staff. We have a staff meeting where we pick newcomer of the year from surprise guys we picked up out of the hallway. We also keep track of our recruits and each coach will claim the responsibility for the recruit's success and subsequent team success we gained. We encourage our kids to recruit as well and really they are our best recruiters. We have had real difference makers from getting basketball players. Kids that were solid basketball players who were too short to be recruitable hoopers have come to us and become d1 football recruits. We also have had solid contributors as well. Our Rush LBer last year never played before. He looked like an athlete and worked hard in my class. I was on him all year. He comes out in the summer has fun and ends up all conference and going to play college football. You are going to miss every shot you don't take. You have to recruit your hallways IMHO.
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Post by holmesbend on Apr 14, 2016 10:15:25 GMT -6
I totally understand and get trying to make those playing other sports the main focus. 1,000% agree. Talk to them at the halls, drop by basketball/baseball practice, go to games, etc...stuff we all do. Nothing earth shattering.
My biggest question is the kids that aren't already playing something. IMO, if they are 15-17 years old and aren't already part of something then there is usually a reason (and, not necissarily negative on their parts) 99.9% of the time.
..my first year as a HC, we had a basketball kid come out that hadn't played since MS. When I was an assistant, we/I stayed on him, stayed on him....then, his senior year...he comes out and has an awesome year. He's now the starting PG for Troy University & COULD play football if he still wanted. ZERO doubt in my mind.
Another basketball- "Hoop Star" as we joked....senior year..he comes out in the summer. He ends up starting at QB having never played a single snap of football in his life...as in..NOTHING. He's since walked on at Western Kentucky University as a TE this spring.
Those basketball/baseball players are the ones you stay on, but the ones who are doing nothing...right or wrong...I've never really wasted much time on (never had any luck)...I mean, you/we mention it to them a time or two, but that's about it.
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Post by fantom on Apr 14, 2016 10:35:57 GMT -6
I totally understand and get trying to make those playing other sports the main focus. 1,000% agree. Talk to them at the halls, drop by basketball/baseball practice, go to games, etc...stuff we all do. Nothing earth shattering. My biggest question is the kids that aren't already playing something. IMO, if they are 15-17 years old and aren't already part of something then there is usually a reason (and, not necissarily negative on their parts) 99.9% of the time. ..my first year as a HC, we had a basketball kid come out that hadn't played since MS. When I was an assistant, we/I stayed on him, stayed on him....then, his senior year...he comes out and has an awesome year. He's now the starting PG for Troy University & COULD play football if he still wanted. ZERO doubt in my mind. Another basketball- "Hoop Star" as we joked....senior year..he comes out in the summer. He ends up starting at QB having never played a single snap of football in his life...as in..NOTHING. He's since walked on at Western Kentucky University as a TE this spring. Those basketball/baseball players are the ones you stay on, but the ones who are doing nothing...right or wrong...I've never really wasted much time on (never had any luck)...I mean, you/we mention it to them a time or two, but that's about it. I think that if you're a newer coach it's good to go after those guys just to get the numbers up. You get the word out that it's cool to play football, at least you have somebody to hold the bags. If it's a program that's been down maybe that's why they haven't come out before and you get a contributor. Probably not but maybe. You don't know until you try. Younger kids, freshmen and sophomores, maybe haven't come out because nobody's asked them before.
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