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Post by mariner42 on Mar 25, 2016 20:44:13 GMT -6
Cowboy collars, neck rolls, butterfly restrictors... There used to be a dozen in any given HS game, what came of that? Did I miss a memo somewhere?
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Post by coachdubyah on Mar 25, 2016 21:07:13 GMT -6
We used to fight over those things in high school.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Mar 25, 2016 21:49:23 GMT -6
A few years ago the kids found a bunch of them in the office and all of the sudden we had like 30 of them out at practice. After about 3 days they were all off again. But we didn't have anybody wear one last year that I can recall.
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Post by coachguy83 on Mar 26, 2016 5:30:15 GMT -6
When I was playing nothing said badass like a FB or LB wearing a cowboy collar. Then again we all wanted to be Mike Alstott.
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Post by coachjm on Mar 26, 2016 6:02:26 GMT -6
I'm curious if there have been studies done on the effectiveness of this equipment? Logically, they do seem to restrict movement of the head and neck which in theory would potentially create less movement of the head and brain for certain types of collisions.. Obviously direct contact to the helmet from another helmet would have the same amount of force but I have seen numerous head injuries occur from whiplash type movement of the head when collision has occurred at other parts of the body. With that stated, my guess is due to the restriction of movement and our day and age of lots of spread football and high emphasis on the pass game the head mobility and vision is a critical factor for WR/QB and coverage players, this makes this type of equipment less vogue at all levels of football.
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Post by wingtol on Mar 26, 2016 8:32:20 GMT -6
When I was playing nothing said badass like a FB or LB wearing a cowboy collar. Then again we all wanted to be Mike Alstott. Cowboy collars are for wimps. You young bucks don't know fear until you saw a LB wearing one of these with the extra toilet paper roll looking pad in the middle of it. Now that said badass back in the day!
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Post by CS on Mar 26, 2016 8:36:08 GMT -6
Cowboy collars, neck rolls, butterfly restrictors... There used to be a dozen in any given HS game, what came of that? Did I miss a memo somewhere? I'm glad someone else said it because I bring this up every year. Nothing makes a medium sized LB look like a monster quite like a jersey over a cowboy collar.
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 26, 2016 10:35:59 GMT -6
add a couple spider pads under the shoulder pads with that neck roll and you got it
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Post by wolverine55 on Mar 26, 2016 10:50:23 GMT -6
There's two trends going on that, at least I think, explain why the cowboy collars and such have disappeared. I've noticed over the last two school years that for whatever reason football players are trying to get away with wearing the least amount of gear/equipment as possible whereas basketball players are trying to get away with wearing the most amount of gear/equipment possible.
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Post by silkyice on Mar 26, 2016 11:33:58 GMT -6
Those do not protect the "neck", they protect against stingers.
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Post by cometcoach on Mar 26, 2016 11:56:51 GMT -6
They were eliminated by the spread offense.
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Post by wiscoach on Mar 26, 2016 16:17:38 GMT -6
I wore a huge neck roll so that I could lead with my head better and it would limit the range of motion. I would say" back in the day" but this was about 8 years ago
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Post by 19delta on Mar 27, 2016 5:46:44 GMT -6
When I was playing nothing said badass like a FB or LB wearing a cowboy collar. Then again we all wanted to be Mike Alstott. Cowboy collars are for wimps. You young bucks don't know fear until you saw a LB wearing one of these with the extra toilet paper roll looking pad in the middle of it. Now that said badass back in the day! Yep!
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Post by mhs99 on Mar 27, 2016 6:38:03 GMT -6
Those pads are only used on picture day so guys can looked jacked up. Opponents that wear the oversized shoulder pads, cowboy collars, and forearm pads have become mythical figures to us known as Pad Monsters
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 27, 2016 8:42:10 GMT -6
j pads are what we fought over when I was in school, neck rolls came out later
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Post by dytmook on Mar 27, 2016 9:52:18 GMT -6
if I see one something like on that on a kid I automatically throw at him. I heard a guy who coached with Sean Peyton when Peyton was young. Said Peyton used to yell, 'throw it at the neck roll' pretty much every play.
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Post by pistolwhipped on Mar 31, 2016 20:13:36 GMT -6
Cox had that Frankenpad that looked like something Tim Duncan banked jumpers off of.
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Post by mholst40 on Apr 1, 2016 0:12:03 GMT -6
No joke, when I was a sophomore in HS, our KICKER walked out to practice wearing a neck roll, forearm pads and SHIN PADS.
Mom didn't want him to get hurt.
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Post by funkfriss on Apr 1, 2016 13:24:20 GMT -6
We always looked for the kid on the other team w/ a neck roll and targeted his @$$ all game. We knew the neck roll kid was the biggest pu$$y on the field. Today "neck roll kid" has turned into "wristbands & fancy socks" kid.
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Post by newt21 on Apr 1, 2016 15:11:53 GMT -6
I've only had one kid wear one (2 years ago), and it's because his dad bought it for him because he kept leading with his head on tackles and kept hurting his neck. We repped proper technique daily, and he did it right, but as soon as it was live, it was all for naught.
I think that more kids now-a-days want to wear the fancy long underwear the basketball guys can't seem to live without.
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Post by coachphillip on Apr 1, 2016 16:12:49 GMT -6
Only have had one kid wear it and he was an absolute monster. Kid was 5'5" on a good day and hit you with every pound of weight on his frame.
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Post by coachphillip on Apr 1, 2016 16:13:22 GMT -6
You're right though. There's definitely been a downtrend in those things. Football is about looking "fast" now. Cowboy collars don't make you look fast.
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Post by eaglemountie on Apr 1, 2016 17:54:46 GMT -6
They were eliminated by the spread offense. Boom.
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Post by powerfootball71 on Apr 1, 2016 18:09:36 GMT -6
Was at a camp at university of Idaho when George Yarno was the oline coach remember him absolutely dressing a kid down for wearing a cowboy collar was like 96 but it always stuck guy was a colorful coach to a 17 year old.
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Post by ksc66 on Apr 2, 2016 13:35:41 GMT -6
This thread gave me some good laughs. I thought they looked badass when I was a HS freshman. Finally got a cowboy collar, and couldn't bow my neck and look up in my stance. It lasted about 30 minutes, haha. Always felt like the bigger ones were useless and even detrimental, but that's just me.
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Post by tackler77 on Apr 2, 2016 14:27:29 GMT -6
I think there have some great points in the thread. I agree that the evolution of offense is the main reason for the disappearance of the neck roll/board. These were effective equipment for defensive players in the day when most offenses were downhill run teams that required linebackers to plug hard and fill forward. However with all of the spread offense and read/RPO teams that there are today defenders need to have more mobility and the ability to survey the entire field on the snap of the ball.
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