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Post by bird0660 on Mar 10, 2016 7:38:07 GMT -6
Anyone going to the Michigan clinic this weekend? Whats something good to do saturday night after the clinic?
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Post by Sparkey on Mar 10, 2016 7:48:11 GMT -6
Metzgers German Restaurant
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Post by jml on Mar 13, 2016 12:53:29 GMT -6
Should have read this sooner... hockey game was good Saturday... A lot of great restaurants there depending on what kind of food you like...
What did you think of the clinic?
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Post by rsmith627 on Mar 13, 2016 13:20:34 GMT -6
IMO the clinic was just ok. Harbaugh came and sat pretty much right next to me in one of the sessions which was pretty cool, even though I root for the green team on Saturdays.
The high school coaches that spoke were great, the Ravens DL coach was great, Trestman didn't impress me and neither did Frank Beamer.
I took away a handful of things that I might use, which is all you can ask of any clinic.
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Post by oldman61 on Mar 13, 2016 13:52:25 GMT -6
IMO the clinic was just ok. Harbaugh came and sat pretty much right next to me in one of the sessions which was pretty cool, even though I root for the green team on Saturdays. The high school coaches that spoke were great, the Ravens DL coach was great, Trestman didn't impress me and neither did Frank Beamer. I took away a handful of things that I might use, which is all you can ask of any clinic. I was there. I thought it was great. Rsmith not sure what position you coach, or which sessions you went to, what you were wanting to get from the clinic. Which are all things that would change opinions of the clinic. I came away with something from each speaker. There was a sports psychologist, strength coach went through some stuff you can do to listen kids hips, Ravens coaching staff was great, chalk talk with michigans staff was great, how often do you get to hear frank Beamer talk special teams. He gave out his KO and punt block schemes. I will agree trestman wasn't great. I am not a QB guy though. I was able to take away from him the team that finishes +1 in the takeaway battle wins the game 80% of the time. The person I got the least football knowledge from was art briles.
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Post by rsmith627 on Mar 13, 2016 14:02:47 GMT -6
IMO the clinic was just ok. Harbaugh came and sat pretty much right next to me in one of the sessions which was pretty cool, even though I root for the green team on Saturdays. The high school coaches that spoke were great, the Ravens DL coach was great, Trestman didn't impress me and neither did Frank Beamer. I took away a handful of things that I might use, which is all you can ask of any clinic. I was there. I thought it was great. Rsmith not sure what position you coach, or which sessions you went to, what you were wanting to get from the clinic. Which are all things that would change opinions of the clinic. I came away with something from each speaker. There was a sports psychologist, strength coach went through some stuff you can do to listen kids hips, Ravens coaching staff was great, chalk talk with michigans staff was great, how often do you get to hear frank Beamer talk special teams. He gave out his KO and punt block schemes. I will agree trestman wasn't great. I am not a QB guy though. I was able to take away from him the team that finishes +1 in the takeaway battle wins the game 80% of the time. The person I got the least football knowledge from was art briles. I'm working with QBs this year. Thursday: Briles and then the 3 back running game guy from Texas who I thought did a decent job. Friday: RPOs, Beamer, Power run game, Harbaughs, Mornhinweg, Trestman, Joe Cullen, Ravens DC On Friday i thought the RPO session was good, the power run game was good, the Harbaughs were good, Mornhinweg was alright, Trestman was awful, Cullen was good, and the Ravens DC was good. The chalk talks at the end with M coaches were also great. I'm not a special teams guy, so Beamer just didn't do it for me.
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Post by wolfden12 on Mar 13, 2016 15:54:55 GMT -6
How was Briles? Topic?
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Post by oldman61 on Mar 13, 2016 19:25:19 GMT -6
Was supposed to be about how to turn a program around. He spoke briefly about each stop he has made and what place was like before they got there and then how they were while his staff was there. It was pretty obvious he had never looked at the PowerPoint before he used it. Did have a few good motivational sayings that were good.
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Post by rsmith627 on Mar 14, 2016 4:44:38 GMT -6
Yeah, Briles is obviously an exceptional football coach. I thought he was a less than exceptional speaker. As said above, he had some good motivational sayings but that was about it. My takeaway was that the facemelter saves programs (which we all know isn't true).
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Post by bird0660 on Mar 14, 2016 7:03:17 GMT -6
I enjoyed it. The biggest take away I had was the amount of detail put into a big time program. You could tell the level of organization etc. Harbaugh's were good as entertainment. Football wise, chris partridge's chalk talk was full of info for about 3 hours (the event staff actually had to ask him to stop). The S&C guy was good, I wish he would have gone a little longer and covered some more. I liked trestman. It was thourough, hes just not that intriguing of a person and makes it seem boring, but there was a lot of good info. Jedd Fisch was also very likeable and gave a lot of good info in his breakout session. To me the downer was Martz. Just came away with nothing from it. (I didnt see Briles though, flight got in late.)
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Post by M4 on Mar 14, 2016 7:21:26 GMT -6
Briles has some that exact same presentation before at another clinic I saw him at. I was disappointed with his presentation which was basically him reading stats about his teams production with no football info shared.
Frank Beamer got into his special teams schemes a bit but not long enough to go into detail. He also kept talking about players as numbers (# 1 and 10, # 2 and 9) but never really explained how he sets up the numbering system which is a pet peeve of mine.
The Baltimore LB and DC and Austin the DC from the Lions were all awesome.
The coaching point from the Baltimore DC regarding ripping over vs under blockers was worth the clinic admission, a great tip with an explanation on why it's correct.
Martz and Trestman were both super basic and I felt a disappointment given their credentials.
The Texas HS Coach (3 Back Runs) and the NJ HS Coach (Power Runs) were good, wish they had more time to go more in depth.
Also really enjoyed the Baltimore kicking coach, pretty high energy and got a few bare bones kicking tips I'll be able to take back.
The Michigan breakout sessions were awesome. I bounced around between a few and really enjoyed all of them.
But that being said, it was an awesome clinic. The access they provided was great and being able to watch practice was pretty cool except the ushers at the stadium during practice were power tripping big time.
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Post by acarrick on Mar 14, 2016 7:31:25 GMT -6
I was also there and greatly enjoyed it. I'm not sure why some of you are down on Trestman, that was probably one of my favorite sessions. Marty Morninweg was the biggest disappointment for me. He had nothing prepared, made a couple jokes and then took questions. It was obvious he has the knowledge, just not nearly as thorough or engaging as say Joe Cullen (Ravens DL coach)
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Post by rsmith627 on Mar 14, 2016 7:48:26 GMT -6
I was also there and greatly enjoyed it. I'm not sure why some of you are down on Trestman, that was probably one of my favorite sessions. Marty Morninweg was the biggest disappointment for me. He had nothing prepared, made a couple jokes and then took questions. It was obvious he has the knowledge, just not nearly as thorough or engaging as say Joe Cullen (Ravens DL coach) I don't think Trestman's info was necessarily bad. He knows his stuff and is an offensive genius. He just didn't hold my attention. I'll throw in that I'm a super ADD case though and have a hard time focusing on much of anything for that long so I found myself zoning out. Cullen definitely held my attention. Anytime you have a guy who speaks with so much intensity, how could you zone out? I don't work with DL but Cullen was still probably my favorite guy. I picked up a few things from him that I think I can apply. It was a good clinic all in all, and I'll definitely be looking forward to attending future clinics at Michigan.
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Post by emptybackfield on Mar 14, 2016 7:54:04 GMT -6
Yeah, Briles is obviously an exceptional football coach. I thought he was a less than exceptional speaker. As said above, he had some good motivational sayings but that was about it. My takeaway was that the facemelter saves programs (which we all know isn't true). I heard him at the Auburn clinic last year. It was not very good. He mentioned multiple times that he had little idea what was on the presentation and that his GA put it together. He showed video of Baylor running routes on air in practice for 10 minutes. I'm sure what HS coaches in the southeast think about his clinic speaking is pretty low on the list for him.
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Post by rsmith627 on Mar 14, 2016 7:54:43 GMT -6
Yeah, Briles is obviously an exceptional football coach. I thought he was a less than exceptional speaker. As said above, he had some good motivational sayings but that was about it. My takeaway was that the facemelter saves programs (which we all know isn't true). I heard him at the Auburn clinic last year. It was not very good. He mentioned multiple times that he had little idea what was on the presentation and that his GA put it together. He showed video of Baylor running routes on air in practice for 10 minutes. Riveting stuff.
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Post by emptybackfield on Mar 14, 2016 8:11:59 GMT -6
I heard him at the Auburn clinic last year. It was not very good. He mentioned multiple times that he had little idea what was on the presentation and that his GA put it together. He showed video of Baylor running routes on air in practice for 10 minutes. Riveting stuff. Maybe some of the Texas guys can weigh in a little more or even correct me if the information I heard is incorrect, but I heard they are pretty tight on things as far as letting coaches come to spring practice and talking ball. I don't want to slander Art Briles, just passing along second hand information and sharing my experience of hearing him speak.
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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 14, 2016 8:23:36 GMT -6
IMO the clinic was just ok. Harbaugh came and sat pretty much right next to me in one of the sessions which was pretty cool, even though I root for the green team on Saturdays. The high school coaches that spoke were great, the Ravens DL coach was great, Trestman didn't impress me and neither did Frank Beamer. I took away a handful of things that I might use, which is all you can ask of any clinic. I was there. I thought it was great. Rsmith not sure what position you coach, or which sessions you went to, what you were wanting to get from the clinic. Which are all things that would change opinions of the clinic. I came away with something from each speaker. There was a sports psychologist, strength coach went through some stuff you can do to listen kids hips, Ravens coaching staff was great, chalk talk with michigans staff was great, how often do you get to hear frank Beamer talk special teams. He gave out his KO and punt block schemes. I will agree trestman wasn't great. I am not a QB guy though. I was able to take away from him the team that finishes +1 in the takeaway battle wins the game 80% of the time. The person I got the least football knowledge from was art briles. How was the sports psychologist?
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Post by bird0660 on Mar 14, 2016 9:15:54 GMT -6
He was very good. Super intelligent and you can tell that he is at the forefront of it. I think we was trying to talk about some very complex concepts but was rushing due to the time constraints, to be able to really explain what he was talking about. I was hoping he would talk more about sport science (the one time he did he talked about how ice baths become ineffective if done to often because the cells stop reacting to it).
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Post by natenator on Mar 14, 2016 9:35:08 GMT -6
What does a sports psychologist know about exercise physiology and athletic therapy?
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Post by bird0660 on Mar 14, 2016 9:39:04 GMT -6
From what I understand he was a sport scientist. not a sports psychologist. although he did touch on psychology
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Post by natenator on Mar 14, 2016 9:42:20 GMT -6
From what I understand he was a sport scientist. not a sports psychologist. although he did touch on psychology That makes more sense
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Post by bird0660 on Mar 14, 2016 11:00:45 GMT -6
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Post by oldman61 on Mar 14, 2016 16:46:06 GMT -6
I was there. I thought it was great. Rsmith not sure what position you coach, or which sessions you went to, what you were wanting to get from the clinic. Which are all things that would change opinions of the clinic. I came away with something from each speaker. There was a sports psychologist, strength coach went through some stuff you can do to listen kids hips, Ravens coaching staff was great, chalk talk with michigans staff was great, how often do you get to hear frank Beamer talk special teams. He gave out his KO and punt block schemes. I will agree trestman wasn't great. I am not a QB guy though. I was able to take away from him the team that finishes +1 in the takeaway battle wins the game 80% of the time. The person I got the least football knowledge from was art briles. How was the sports psychologist? I wish I could get his presentation. He had several pieces of information of each slide, much more than anyone could get down. He also said that most ACL and and reaction movement injuries are a direct result of the athlete no having enough sleep. The main reason they were injured is because of the slow reaction. The cause of the slow reaction is usually not well enough rested. As another poster mentioned. I wish he had more time. I wish he would send his presentation out. I really wish Michigan would offer the video for all the session even if it meant adding cost to the clinic.
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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 14, 2016 17:30:20 GMT -6
How was the sports psychologist? I wish I could get his presentation. He had several pieces of information of each slide, much more than anyone could get down. He also said that most ACL and and reaction movement injuries are a direct result of the athlete no having enough sleep. The main reason they were injured is because of the slow reaction. The cause of the slow reaction is usually not well enough rested. As another poster mentioned. I wish he had more time. I wish he would send his presentation out. I really wish Michigan would offer the video for all the session even if it meant adding cost to the clinic. What was his name.perhaps some of his stuff is online or he has a book we could look at
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Post by oldman61 on Mar 14, 2016 17:33:36 GMT -6
I wish I could get his presentation. He had several pieces of information of each slide, much more than anyone could get down. He also said that most ACL and and reaction movement injuries are a direct result of the athlete no having enough sleep. The main reason they were injured is because of the slow reaction. The cause of the slow reaction is usually not well enough rested. As another poster mentioned. I wish he had more time. I wish he would send his presentation out. I really wish Michigan would offer the video for all the session even if it meant adding cost to the clinic. What was his name.perhaps some of his stuff is online or he has a book we could look at dr. Fergus Connolly
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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 14, 2016 18:03:07 GMT -6
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Post by cracker18 on Mar 14, 2016 20:08:47 GMT -6
To answer your question about Briles, yes they are pretty tight about sharing information. I've been to a couple of their practices (before they got really good). They were very open about watching practice, but I have heard from multiple people that they don't give out much as far as scheme goes.
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Post by nltdiego on Mar 14, 2016 22:37:38 GMT -6
Briles has some that exact same presentation before at another clinic I saw him at. I was disappointed with his presentation which was basically him reading stats about his teams production with no football info shared. Frank Beamer got into his special teams schemes a bit but not long enough to go into detail. He also kept talking about players as numbers (# 1 and 10, # 2 and 9) but never really explained how he sets up the numbering system which is a pet peeve of mine. The Baltimore LB and DC and Austin the DC from the Lions were all awesome. The coaching point from the Baltimore DC regarding ripping over vs under blockers was worth the clinic admission, a great tip with an explanation on why it's correct. Martz and Trestman were both super basic and I felt a disappointment given their credentials. The Texas HS Coach (3 Back Runs) and the NJ HS Coach (Power Runs) were good, wish they had more time to go more in depth. Also really enjoyed the Baltimore kicking coach, pretty high energy and got a few bare bones kicking tips I'll be able to take back. The Michigan breakout sessions were awesome. I bounced around between a few and really enjoyed all of them. But that being said, it was an awesome clinic. The access they provided was great and being able to watch practice was pretty cool except the ushers at the stadium during practice were power tripping big time. Can you explain ripping over and under blocks??
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Post by M4 on Mar 15, 2016 7:42:01 GMT -6
Can you explain ripping over and under blocks?? His biggest message, IMO was that defenders have to remain square to the LOS at all costs. He explained that if a defender is engaged with a blocker but the blocker has leverage between him and the ball he should always "swim" over this block because ripping under would put him in an un-square position. If he is engaged with a blocker but the defender has the leverage between the blocker and the ball he should always rip under this block because it would put him square when he rips and steps. Swimming over a defender you have leverage on puts you in a position where the blocker can force you to become un-square to the sideline.
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Post by pitt1980 on Mar 15, 2016 11:42:04 GMT -6
Thanks for providing those
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