thor
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Post by thor on May 29, 2015 5:09:35 GMT -6
I have just accepted a job where the program and numbers are down. I will not be teaching in the building but will have access during the day. One thought is to create a Power Point Presentation to run during lunchtime and be in attendance to talk to kids. Has anyone created a presentation along these lines? Not looking for rules or philosophy stuff but something to grab their attention and start a conversation. Thanks in advance!
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Post by rbrown5 on May 29, 2015 8:12:15 GMT -6
Please share if you come across one looking to do some recruiting my self.
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Post by rystaylo on May 29, 2015 9:28:00 GMT -6
How about showing a highlight video of where you were previously?
i think kids would be bored with a power point
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Post by funkfriss on May 29, 2015 12:41:21 GMT -6
I personally wouldn't do this. I'm not saying it would hurt, but I just wouldn't choose to do it this way.
I'm assuming you've had a football sign-up meeting already right? Find out who the leaders are that have already signed up and get them to recruit for you. Tell them for every kid they get into workouts that haven't signed up they will get ________.
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Post by fantom on May 29, 2015 12:47:56 GMT -6
How about showing a highlight video of where you were previously? i think kids would be bored with a power point I wouldn't show video of my old school. |
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Post by rsmith627 on May 29, 2015 13:00:03 GMT -6
Agree on finding out who the leaders of your new group are. Our running back was our greatest recruiter in the school that I am on my way out of. He got most of the baseball team and half of the basketball team to come out for this upcoming season. Most of the guys that he is getting out are going to contribute in a major way too.
As a coach, sometimes you only need to ask a kid to come out and play. Kids are funny like that. The reality though is that you aren't going to say anything to the kids that probably should be playing that they haven't heard in the past.
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Post by freezeoption on May 29, 2015 13:28:27 GMT -6
i wouldn't show video of old school, i use to have kids come to a room that i used for watching tape that wasn't far from the lunch room, they could watch opponents film after eating lunch, i had a highlight film there from the year before, they saw it and watched it, they asked me why those plays don't work when we run them, i was upfront with them and said they didn't have the heart and dedication that team had, i knew i would be leaving that school at the end of the year, so i didn't care, one of the worst places i've ever been
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 15:08:58 GMT -6
For the love of God, do not use a PowerPoint!  Ask the principal of you can have some time to hold an assembly when testing''s done. Use it to introduce yourself and sell how fun playing football is going to be and briefly mention your accomplishments. Then give them your contact info, football social media accounts (be sure to create a team Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube channel) and let them know when and where weights are. Set up social media and meet with your returning players. Put the ball in their court as far as recruiting and challenge them to get 3 guys each out for weights, especially guys who they know can help you win. Give some type of incentive to the guys who do this and to your top recruiter. |
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Post by coachklee on May 29, 2015 15:54:36 GMT -6
I personally wouldn't do this. I'm not saying it would hurt, but I just wouldn't choose to do it this way. I'm assuming you've had a football sign-up meeting already right? Find out who the leaders are that have already signed up and get them to recruit for you. Tell them for every kid they get into workouts that haven't signed up they will get ________. ...a Gatorade for them & the new guy they bring! |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 29, 2015 17:57:46 GMT -6
How about showing a highlight video of where you were previously? i think kids would be bored with a power point I would not show a highlight video of the previous school. HOWEVER, Making a highlight film of the school you are going to is a good idea. |
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Post by coachjm on May 29, 2015 19:50:48 GMT -6
Boys today like boys of yesterday have a pack mentality! They all want to be accepted and do what is cool so ultimately creating and environment in which it is cool to be part of football will yield you more boys. We have a big sign-up meeting every year at many stops we have made this a pep rally environment at the conclusion we do sign-ups ultimately when they sign up we then immediately (same day) send home a parent letter with dates and times of events. What this does is get all the information to parents and they get kids to commit to our events. We never retain them all from the sign-up but it is typically about 90%.
Ultimately to grow and sustain numbers it is a long term process, it comes down to a couple simple things, kids having fun playing football and getting and opportunity to actually play. It is critical at the lower levels kids get an opportunity to play and coaches who focus on instruction and patiently teaching boys how to play better if that happens they will generally have fun playing and continue to play and numbers aren't an issue after a few years.
For program success recruit the middle school halls not the HS halls, by then you should know who is interested and passionate about the game.
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Post by buckeye7525 on May 29, 2015 20:00:50 GMT -6
coachjm how do you guys balance playing time for kids vs winning at the lower levels?
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Post by coachjm on May 29, 2015 20:10:31 GMT -6
coachjm how do you guys balance playing time for kids vs winning at the lower levels? To be frank, I could care less how much our lower levels win... I have had 0fer teams when a lot of games as seniors and undefeated groups stink so our view is to focus on other things, here it is: 1. Want every kid to have a role, when our numbers have been big we have ran two offenses and a full defense to ensure every kid gets on the field, when the numbers are smaller it is just a matter of making sure every kid gets quality reps on the first half. 2. We make sure every kid gets coached, the hard part of this is having enough quality coaches who will instruct the techniques of each position to each kid, you will be suprised how much the instruction gets to the reserved kids when they have to play. 3. We move kids up, I never want our lower levels to be the most talented if a kid can have a role on the varsity we will bump him up to push him and then that generally creates two additional starters on the lower level that have to be instructed well. 4. We emphasize the process vs. the results on all levels the focus is on improving our fundementals and we try not to worry about results although I know that is tough. 5. All the above has yielded lower level teams that are generally above .500 and on occasion real good and winning/losing issue only exists early in the season when I move kids up and the parents assume the lower level team will lose because we bring up Joe stud however, they learn through this process that it is about the team and process and not about how good Joe is, this can be a negative as Joe Stud's dad isn't always equipt for it not to be all about him! |
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Post by keysersoze on May 29, 2015 20:19:44 GMT -6
I have just accepted a job where the program and numbers are down. I will not be teaching in the building but will have access during the day. One thought is to create a Power Point Presentation to run during lunchtime and be in attendance to talk to kids. Has anyone created a presentation along these lines? Not looking for rules or philosophy stuff but something to grab their attention and start a conversation. Thanks in advance! I would start by getting a list of every male Freshman, Sophomore, Junior and Senior for next year. From that list start sitting down with players and going over the list of who should be playing football. You can do the same with PE teachers and Winter and Spring sports coaches. Meet with those kids directly and send them hand written notes. Organize your coaches and current players so that they go and recruit those players as well. Get cheerleaders to help with this as well. I would also try to get rosters from past years (including in middle school) and cross reference the current roster with the old ones. |
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Post by John Knight on May 30, 2015 6:03:40 GMT -6
If I was going to show them anything I would use a College cut up of the new offense I planned to bring in like Oregon or Texas A&M and some big hits on defense. Just to grab attention. We emphasize the process?  What the hell does that mean?? |
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Post by fballcoachg on May 30, 2015 7:13:10 GMT -6
coachjm how do you guys balance playing time for kids vs winning at the lower levels? School I was at is very successful and has slightly over half of the male population signed up for football this upcoming season. While there are plenty of factors at play I think the lower level philosophy is a major contributor and has been stolen and will be implemented at my new school. New s school has an attrition issue with most kids dropping football between the 9th and 10th grade. Our practice will now be play everybody at the middle school, find a place for everybody to get reps in game in the 9th grade, and try to play everyone in the JV games. I am also getting away from a 9th grade staff and varsity staff, everyone is varsity and the varsity coaches all coach the 9th grade (platoon staff, have them rotate when varsity is on O/D). You never know when a kid is going to develop and you need all kids to buy in, can't expect most of them to buy in if they aren't seeing the field and I don't buy in to the "have to win" at the lower level philosophy. You have to compete and see growth. My biggest hurdle will be the MS, but I think I will be able to swing it. |
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Post by freezeoption on May 30, 2015 7:21:40 GMT -6
keep it simple, if numbers are down and they haven't had much success, they are not going to care on all your stuff, get them there first, then keep it simple, talk about your camps and dates, weights and dates and times, what incentives you got if any, get their contact info, make sure their parents get their info, so i would have a school send another to the home, keep your stuff to one or two pages at most, calendar with times and what is going on, you don't want them to have to process to much info or they are going to tune you out
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Post by tigercoach11 on May 30, 2015 10:15:01 GMT -6
Here's my piece of advice (I did not read all responses so sorry if some has been covered).
keeping this a short as possible, I am on my 3rd HC gig. All have had # problems. I have tried the "wow" factor before and realized it wasn't worth it in the end. Have a meeting lay out expectations very clearly and do not vary from expectations.It may be rough going at first but if you do not waiver, even for good athletes eventually they will fall in or fall out. In reality if they fall out, even the good ones, they would've been more headache than a blessing any way.
Manage your time on things that will have more benefit in the end (time is the one thing you will never have enough of). Put your efforts in the kids that buy in and reward their efforts. Make playing football for your team a "big deal". Best advice I can give, but, each HC has a different approach. Hope it works out
as tough as kids act, I now realize that most need and want an adult that demands a lot from them running the show. Not someone trying to wow or persuade them into playing.
Good luck coach, I feel your situation, as do a lot of guys on here.
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