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Post by nltdiego on May 26, 2015 22:34:09 GMT -6
I let the assistants coaches talk and by time it gets to me I feel like they are zoned out. Was at school before where head coach didn't let assistants talk.
What's your philosophy?
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Post by coachguy83 on May 26, 2015 22:54:33 GMT -6
I'm a big fan of HC only. It allows him to control the message and deliver all of the information in a clear concise manner. If assistant coaches have something to say to their position groups they have had two hours of practice to say it or they can grab their guys real quick after practice.
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Post by agame on May 27, 2015 0:30:12 GMT -6
I think it should be Hc only
Currently we do offence / defence then come together...
Always feel do I say this or leave it to coach.,etc etc so ur mind is almost sidetracked when your trying to emphasise a point or 3
I have no problems with doing it..,but think Hc addressing the team is better..
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Post by realdawg on May 27, 2015 3:26:14 GMT -6
I am DC not HC. We always practice O and D every day. And we always do D second. I talk quickly at end about defense only. Then HC talks if he's got anything to say. If I were a head coach I wouldn't make it an open forum for all my assistants to talk.
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Post by fantom on May 27, 2015 3:39:30 GMT -6
On defensive days I'll say a few words then the HC finishes up. From time to time the coach in charge of a particular area may say something about a procedure matter. For example, the coach who handles equipment may need to inform them about something in that area.
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Post by bluboy on May 27, 2015 5:51:03 GMT -6
Head coach speaks. When he is finished, he asks assistants if there is anything to add or that he forgot. We assistants usually don't speak unless we have an announcement to make or directions to give to a specific group of kids.
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Post by wingtol on May 27, 2015 6:19:50 GMT -6
Our HC always lets the assistants talk at the end of practice. I usually say something as the DC/OL/Ast HC(whatever that means) then we have another veteran coach who usually speaks and then HC finishes up. We have a great staff that has been together for a long time and everyone knows the message and their role. HC is a good friend and sometimes after we are done addressing the team he just says "They said it all nothing more to add". Again we have a great staff and have been friends for years before we started coaching so it's a pretty unique situation, a very good one at that!
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Post by John Knight on May 27, 2015 7:16:13 GMT -6
I am all for short and salty and get the hell out of there. Don't waste time on {censored} they wont listen to. Always tell them to get a good meal, not crap and get a good night's rest.
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Post by rsmith627 on May 27, 2015 7:19:18 GMT -6
I like to just have the HC talk. Some guys are too long winded and I just want to get out of there. It almost always turns into 10 guys saying the exact same thing anyway.
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Post by IronmanFootball on May 27, 2015 7:25:31 GMT -6
As HC, I am the only one who talks after Mon-Wed practices. Our "talk in" lasts 90 seconds tops. On the Thursday of a game week we all say a little. Before, halftime, and after a game I'm the only one. Seriously- it's time to go home and the kids don't listen to you anyway. Peanuts character stuff.
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Post by shocktroop34 on May 27, 2015 7:27:07 GMT -6
For me it depended on the time of year, time left in practice, and/or the the situation.
I was a huge advocate for other coaches speaking. I had a few reasons in mind. When you have a program where only the HC speaks, over the course of time, I think players have the tendency to "tune out" the voice of that coach.
Other coaches bring a different perspective that the HC may not capture. The only time I didn't let a coach speak was if I thought that he might say something that didn't reflect the mission or situation at hand. If that was the case, I would try to deal with that situation before we spoke in front of the team.
I didn't mind coaches speaking. I just wanted to be the last voice that the players heard. I also tried to find an aspect that was different than everyone else so I wasn't just being redundant.
With my assistants, I would mostly say, "ok coaches, you got about a minute, if you want to speak." Many times, my guys would defer if there was nothing pressing on their heart. Many times I would have to remind a coach to speak on or remind me to speak on (physicals, weight room, character, behavior, etc.) so I wouldn't forget to hit on it after practice.
Sometimes, I would ask the seniors or the captains if they had any words, and we'd end with that.
Many coaches make the mistake of speaking just to speak. Speaking at any given point is about having an impact with your words. I had one coach, who didn't say much, but when he did, you could hear a pin drop. IMO, speakers with the most impact are those who choose those times carefully.
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Post by wolverine55 on May 27, 2015 7:32:00 GMT -6
We have a new HC this year, but in the past the HC gave his talk and then asked if the assistants had anything to add. Almost always, anything I would have wanted to say had already been said by the time it got to me, so I passed. If I have something for my position group specifically, I normally just have them stay a couple extra minutes as it normally isn't something the whole team needs to hear.
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Post by coachorm on May 27, 2015 7:35:32 GMT -6
For us HC speaks. If you have something to say as an assistant you say it at the end and make sure it is:
1. Brief - the kids are tired and ready to go home, its not time to coach them up or hammer them for things they did wrong in practice. You just had two hours to do that. 2. Doesn't contradict the HC in any way. - make sure what you are saying supports what the HC just said. Don't go off on a different tangent or say anything that is opposite of what the HC said. Ex: if the HC just told them how well the defense played man coverage that day, don't rip into the left corner for getting beat one time. Sorry, but nothing irks me more than an AC over stepping his boundaries and trying to say things that just don't need to be said. Usually its younger guys fresh out of school or in their first 5 years of coaching. When they are still full of piss an vinegar and think they are gonna be the next Nick Saben, Jim Harbaugh, or Urban Meyer in 3 years.
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Post by lochness on May 27, 2015 7:49:52 GMT -6
I always invite my staff to speak. They are all men of few words, so it works very well. I speak last. I like giving them the ability to express their feelings about how things went. They work hard and have a lot invested. I finish with a summary message and some administrative detail (don't forget bus leaves at blah blah, white jerseys, get your fundraiser money in, etc).
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Post by Chris Clement on May 27, 2015 8:12:46 GMT -6
HC goes first for us, followed by anyone with something to say, which is rare. After the team breaks we split positionally. I rarely have more than 3 sentences for my group, but some guys like to go on a bit longer.
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Post by groundchuck on May 27, 2015 8:17:42 GMT -6
I always invite staff to speak and I don't always need the last word. Usually I got around during the last part of practice and ask coaches "anything you want to say/need me to say?" A few years back we had a tradition where my DB coach closed Thursday's practice. He wouldn't say {censored} all week then Thursday was his day. Usually I didn't talk over than the logistical stuff.
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Post by coachphillip on May 27, 2015 9:54:05 GMT -6
Depends on who you are and who your staff consists of. I've worked for a great friend of mine who is a cold, calculated type. He would tell me what he wanted and lead off and I would close. "Get after them. We were terrible." "Make sure you end positive." Kids responded better to me, so that was our staff dynamic. This year, our HC is a guy that knows exactly what message he wants and he wants to be the guy who dictates the tone of that message so I don't say a thing. The key thing if you're a HC is knowing who your assistants are and what kind of voice they have. The key thing about being an assistant is knowing who your HC is and knowing your role within the group. Never overstep your boundaries as an assistant. His program, his message.
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Post by John Knight on May 27, 2015 11:32:52 GMT -6
I always laughed at the end of practice we had a guy that was very good at this. We had the speeches numbered after a few years. The funniest was by the peebug speech! Everyone has one and they all are different but they stink so wash them, everyday after practice!
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Post by dubber on May 27, 2015 11:32:56 GMT -6
Our HC always speaks, because all his assistants are walking to the field house.
That's just the way we do it.
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Post by tothehouse on May 27, 2015 12:53:06 GMT -6
In the old days...we would start our stop watch on the head coach. He, sometimes, would talk for 25 minutes or more after practice. My dinner was getting cold listening to him talk about hygiene after he went in for a root canal that day. Again, less is more with talking. And HC should probably be the only one talking.
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Post by coachphillip on May 27, 2015 13:04:15 GMT -6
In the old days...we would start our stop watch on the head coach. He, sometimes, would talk for 25 minutes or more after practice. My dinner was getting cold listening to him talk about hygiene after he went in for a root canal that day. Again, less is more with talking. And HC should probably be the only one talking. Our HC won a few more than the bucket hat and he goes on forever too. We joke about having to clear our schedules for the entire night even if we end practice early.
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Post by spreadpowero on May 27, 2015 13:35:19 GMT -6
Our HC speaks first. Then, he asks if any of the assistants want to add anything.
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Post by fbs on May 27, 2015 13:37:11 GMT -6
I am big on the HC only bit. Maybe, MAYBE give the coordinators a second to address their side of the ball, but even that's a big IF. You have to be honest with yourself and come to the realization that nobody sitting there is just chomping at the bit to hear you lecture them on life. If you give the whole staff the floor you'll no doubt have one or two guys on staff who want to live out their hc dreams and get some public speaking practice and puts everyone to sleep. get the kids the info and feedback they need and let them go home.
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Post by fantom on May 27, 2015 14:01:57 GMT -6
I am big on the HC only bit. Maybe, MAYBE give the coordinators a second to address their side of the ball, but even that's a big IF. You have to be honest with yourself and come to the realization that nobody sitting there is just chomping at the bit to hear you lecture them on life. If you give the whole staff the floor you'll no doubt have one or two guys on staff who want to live out their hc dreams and get some public speaking practice and puts everyone to sleep. get the kids the info and feedback they need and let them go home. I wouldn't say "No doubt". I guess it's a matter of knowing your staff.
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Post by coachrdc on May 27, 2015 18:12:32 GMT -6
Our HC always speaks and when he's done he offers to us assistants. Normally we stay quiet, the only one who speaks is usually our DC on defense days or if its a rival since he's an alum. I had a previous HC who REQUIRED all assistants (and captains) to speak on Thursdays. I said, "um, no, that's your job man" to which I was politely told, "yes, you will say something." So normally I spoke last among the assistants and said something like "just kick their @$$." We went 0-10, maybe I should have said a little more...
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Post by John Knight on May 27, 2015 19:29:36 GMT -6
Or less
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Post by olinedude on May 27, 2015 19:34:57 GMT -6
Our HC speaks and breaks the team out, then we grab our guys by position and say anything we need to with them. I like it that way, keeps the HC as the main voice but then each position group gets to hear their position coach talk.
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Post by newhope on May 28, 2015 7:20:34 GMT -6
As head coach, I talk. When I'm done, it's then "Coaches, anything?" and if any of them need to address anything quickly, they do so--not rah-rah type of stuff or "here's what I'd be saying if I were head coach" stuff, but stuff pertaining to their particular duties. Usually other than the equipment guy or the locker guy or "linemen see me for a minute when we're done" they have nothing to say---maybe a "good job today" here or there type of thing.
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Post by shocktroop34 on May 28, 2015 12:28:11 GMT -6
I was just reflecting on a time when I went back and watched my college coaches. One in particular, had notes written down, and he would glance at them, like reading through bullet points. I've done this, at times, as well. He was a really good guy, but eventually fired.
Another coach, who was largely more successful and is now a FBS HC would free style and speak from the heart. But he always knew what to say.
I don't know there is any particular correlation, but it just seemed like one coach was more in tune with his team than the other. I think it was just a matter of preference.
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Post by redandwhite on May 28, 2015 12:58:27 GMT -6
I always address the whole team, then we split up into position groups and each assistant has final words for his position players. Occasionally we will do a split O/D talk with the coordinators addressing their side of the ball.
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