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Post by fcboiler87 on May 5, 2015 12:00:16 GMT -6
Tom Herman articleThis was an interesting article I read from Tom Herman. He says you can't change the culture as Mr. Nice Coach. I would tend to agree, but I am posting this for some discussion about this at the high school level. In a way, I have taken this approach as a first year HC. I came into a pretty good situation and a relatively successful program. But I won't do things the same way, I can't because I don't know how they did things, etc. So it has been apparent there is a culture change and I've been a fair person, but I wouldn't say I've been Mr. Nice Guy either. It has still been quite a shift and not easy for all those involved. How do you approach such things? Is Tom Herman right? What have you done to "change a culture" even if it was a reasonably successful one? I believe in any situation, our job is to try and better what we had. We of course have our own ways of doing it so it seems any time there is a coaching change, there is a culture shift of some sort. Thoughts?
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Post by oriolepower on May 5, 2015 12:22:09 GMT -6
I would agree with the article however I don't agree with the title. You can be a nice coach and have high standards to which you hold players accountable. Upsetting the apple cart doesn't mean you have to be an a$$ about it. You can demand high standards in a respectful, matter of fact way. I do believe being nice and trying to be a player's friend are different things.
As I said, I do agree with the article. Make changes now. Don't think there is something to put off and deal with at a later time. As a coach, if you tolerate it, it will be perceived that you endorse it.
To answer your question, Culture is based on the values of the program. When a coaching change occurs the HC must either adapt to the culture or adapt the culture to what he expects.
If a coach wants to change the culture I recommend three things:
Clearly identify and communicate the expectations and standards.
Live the culture and standards yourself.
Hold people accountable to the standards.
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Post by groundchuck on May 5, 2015 12:30:38 GMT -6
Like the above post, you can have high standards and not be a prick.
I like the concept.
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Post by rsmith627 on May 5, 2015 12:34:42 GMT -6
I would agree with the article however I don't agree with the title. You can be a nice coach and have high standards to which you hold players accountable. Upsetting the apple cart doesn't mean you have to be an a$$ about it. You can demand high standards in a respectful, matter of fact way. I do believe being nice and trying to be a player's friend are different things. As I said, I do agree with the article. Make changes now. Don't think there is something to put off and deal with at a later time. As a coach, if you tolerate it, it will be perceived that you endorse it. To answer your question, Culture is based on the values of the program. When a coaching change occurs the HC must either adapt to the culture or adapt the culture to what he expects. If a coach wants to change the culture I recommend three things: Clearly identify and communicate the expectations and standards. Live the culture and standards yourself. Hold people accountable to the standards. I agree with this post. Our principal calls it being a "loving demander." You can still hold kids to a high expectation while being kind and caring about them. |
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Post by tothehouse on May 5, 2015 14:31:40 GMT -6
Our AD is new...he's also the basketball coach. I like the job he's doing. He has this saying about coaching/coaches. He says they need to be "Kid magnets". Need to be able to draw the kids in. Or keep them, etc.
That's all fine and good, but if I'm heavy handed and a different sports coach is not...kids might not look at me as a magnet.
That being said...I'm coaching football. Football is hard. Football is tough. If I prance around and make everything nicey nice...we are in trouble.
I'm not here to make friends with high school aged kids. I'm here to win games. Can I do that and not be "nice"? Absolutely. Not being "nice" doesn't mean I don't love the heck out of my players. And they know this. Respect the game. Respect the coach. Love or hate me...but we're all headed on the same mission.
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Post by canesfan on May 5, 2015 15:16:22 GMT -6
He's right. It's hard to do as a young guy but you have to separate it. I'm young, and it is a struggle to not be too nice so I probably come off harder than I want to. But I try to show my players respect. At the end of the day, I care about my players and want them to respect me. They don't have to like me, I want, need, or have time for teenage friends.
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Post by funkfriss on May 6, 2015 8:11:30 GMT -6
Couldn't disagree more. I'm not disagreeing with what he did, but I disagree with the assumption that you can only change the culture of a program by "laying down the law." Too Hollywood for my taste. In my experience, care about the kids, get to know the kids (and parents), and demonstrate your competence. Once they know you care and that you know what you're doing they'll run through a wall for you. Really could've summed it up by these two bits of advice.
1. "Kids don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." (Overheard, overused, but so true)
2. Find the leaders and coach them up first. If they're doing what you want, others will start to follow.
It's not an overnight thing, but I think you'll see changes.
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Post by fcboiler87 on May 6, 2015 8:51:03 GMT -6
Interesting perspectives. I don't know that there is a right answer to it, but I was just posting this purely for discussion purposes. It just hit home to me because I am going through it and I know many others are so it's just neat to see one way it is being handled.
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Post by coolhandluke on May 6, 2015 8:59:59 GMT -6
Here is something Bob Ladouceur once said at a clinic:
"I have seen coaches come out on the field and change personalities. They may be the nicest guys off the field, but when the go on the field they are tigers. I encourage our coaches not to do this. Kids know when you change personalities on the field.
Be yourself on the field. If you are a nice guy off the field you can be a nice guy on the field. You are out there for the kids and not out there to try to intimidate the players."
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Post by coachfloyd on May 6, 2015 9:04:06 GMT -6
I think you really just have to be yourself. Sometimes Im a jerk. Sometimes I put my arm around them. Sometimes I put my arm around them while Im being a jerk.
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Post by groundchuck on May 6, 2015 9:07:23 GMT -6
Exactly. Be yourself. We hear this over and over. Communicate your standards and make them understand their are consequences.
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Post by joelee on May 6, 2015 10:06:19 GMT -6
I had a very hard time with this in 2010. I went into a place as HC that I didn't do enough research on. I immediately realized I had to change the culture. I was coming from a private christian school and had just won a championship. I don't think I was being or wanted to be a jerk, I just had to completely change everything from how I found it and set high standards. My first team meeting I had 9 seniors. 3 of them were letter winners. By the first week 3 of them quit. Before the first game 3 more did something very stupid and I let them go. So I was left with 3 seniors and they just happened to be the 3 letter winners. I had to cut some other chaff from the junior group. I learned 2 major things from it all. #1 The frosh and sophomores bought in quickly, they didn't have bad habits and didn't have the culture or lack of from the previous regime. #2 You don't just change the culture of the players you have to change the culture of the entire place sometimes. The place I went to was a place of entitled excuse makers who never won anything. The parents of my upper classmen started a petition to get me fired because I cut a few kids and held others accountable. The booster president said I wasn't using my stable of talented running backs correctly and his son just happened to be one only getting 3rd string carries. (not 1 player on the entire roster ever played 1 snap of college football even though we had a middle of the road NAIA team in the same town) The admin had no backbone and really was a part of the excuse making culture so I got fired. They went back to the old ways. 4 years later no playoffs, no winning seasons, no college players and they fired the coach again, only this guy gets let go DURING the season after week 4 (he wasn't using his available stable of talent appropriately, apparently)!
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Post by eaglemountie on May 6, 2015 10:53:51 GMT -6
It's a fine line that has to be walked and talked differently with all kids while being as fair and balanced as possible...
Yep, that complex and simple at the same time...
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Post by rsmith627 on May 6, 2015 11:18:44 GMT -6
I'm sorry...but isn't this basically common sense to anyone who is past their first year as a teacher in any school district at any level? Isn't coaching basically teaching? joelee my HC'ing stop is a similar story to yours except I didn't get fired. Pardon the pun, but I came in like a wrecking ball and while I wasn't an a-hole about it, I was definitely not persuadable to let things go on that I didn't like or that I didn't feel was in the right direction. Culture needed to change from top to bottom. Kids, coaches, admin, boosters, parents...freakin everyone. So that's what I did and there is no doubt I ruffled a lot of feathers but after my 2nd year when it came time for my evaluation the AD said something to me that I didn't like...I had already been thinking about leaving for a host of reasons...so I told him to go F himself, walked out, went to my room and sent my letter of resignation to the Super, BOE, etc. I'm a good dude and I give a lot but you know..if you're drowning and you know how to swim but you simply you refuse to even try?? Then phuk it, I'm more than willing to watch you drown. I'll be g**d*mmed if I spend any of my time, energy or effort trying to save someone who isn't interested in saving themselves, and won't even try. Interesting note. On my staff I had 2 assistants who were the right kind of guys to have on staff. Those 2 and myself were disliked by the other staff members because we were "too dedicated and obsessed". They laughed at us, teased us, etc. (I was made to hire 4 of them) - I chit you not. So I left. Those 2 coaches also leave. First year gone, my DC plays for a state finals with his new school, this year my DB coach and I square off in the state semi-finals...meanwhile the school we all left went 0-10. Phuk those people. There's a reason they shoot sick/injured horses. On a bright note, isn't it great when admin makes a tough decision like leaving easier on you? These are usually the kind of schools who think a new coach is going to change the program over night and bring a magical silver bullet facemelter scheme with him, because it's the coaches that cause losing and not bullsh!t cultures right? Our players are convinced that if we ran a spread offense last year we would be state champions right now, but we went 1-8 running a flexbone. Nevermind the 50+ a game they let up on defense, it was all on the offense. Our AD spent the season telling the kids our offensive scheme is "retarded" and that that's why we lost all of the games. This place can phuk off. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 11:24:26 GMT -6
Let's keep in mind that Tom Hermann is a coach at a major FBS university and he's dealing with young adults who are elite scholarship athletes who have more elite scholarship athletes waiting to replace them if they fail to meet expectations.
Most of us here are HS coaches working with public HS kids who may or may not turn out in numbers to fill out a team if you're too much of a hard@$$ on them.
You can't change the culture by being soft and bending to the wills of everyone else, but I've seen just as many HS coaches falter by trying to go in and be Bear Bryant to "change the culture" in places where it's ingrained. That seldom goes well, either.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 11:35:07 GMT -6
you can be a good guy and have discipline. You do not have to be an a-hole, or have the players "fear" you. If you are willing to enforce your rules with everybody, you shouldn't have a problem. Unfortunately, that is rarely the case.
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Post by fcboiler87 on May 6, 2015 11:35:32 GMT -6
I had a very hard time with this in 2010. I went into a place as HC that I didn't do enough research on. I immediately realized I had to change the culture. I was coming from a private christian school and had just won a championship. I don't think I was being or wanted to be a jerk, I just had to completely change everything from how I found it and set high standards. My first team meeting I had 9 seniors. 3 of them were letter winners. By the first week 3 of them quit. Before the first game 3 more did something very stupid and I let them go. So I was left with 3 seniors and they just happened to be the 3 letter winners. I had to cut some other chaff from the junior group. I learned 2 major things from it all. #1 The frosh and sophomores bought in quickly, they didn't have bad habits and didn't have the culture or lack of from the previous regime. #2 You don't just change the culture of the players you have to change the culture of the entire place sometimes. The place I went to was a place of entitled excuse makers who never won anything. The parents of my upper classmen started a petition to get me fired because I cut a few kids and held others accountable. The booster president said I wasn't using my stable of talented running backs correctly and his son just happened to be one only getting 3rd string carries. (not 1 player on the entire roster ever played 1 snap of college football even though we had a middle of the road NAIA team in the same town) The admin had no backbone and really was a part of the excuse making culture so I got fired. They went back to the old ways. 4 years later no playoffs, no winning seasons, no college players and they fired the coach again, only this guy gets let go DURING the season after week 4 (he wasn't using his available stable of talent appropriately, apparently)! I am seeing similarities here. This has been a good program for the better part of a decade (typical winning seasons). I know the coach left because talent was on a down turn. I took this job for family reasons (moving home) and understood why he was leaving but knew the cupboard wasn't completely bare. The problem I have run into is still the culture. Because they have been reasonably successful, there is a great sense of entitlement. They do not want to work and do not think they have to in order to continue to be successful. There is talent and don't get me wrong we could win a lot of ball games, but they won't put in what it takes to be better than that. It's a very interesting conundrum and it's not one that I anticipated at all. You think a place is successful because of good culture, but I have seeming found that perhaps that isn't always the case. The young guys have bought in. That seemed to come naturally. Winning over the seniors? Maybe it will happen. All I can do is stick to the message and go. I've seen it working slowly but surely for some. Not so for others. I've not been a d!ck but have pushed expectation and standards on them and they don't like it. I guess that's all part of the challenge. |
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Post by rsmith627 on May 6, 2015 11:42:24 GMT -6
Let's keep in mind that Tom Hermann is a coach at a major FBS university and he's dealing with young adults who are elite scholarship athletes who have more elite scholarship athletes waiting to replace them if they fail to meet expectations. Most of us here are HS coaches working with public HS kids who may or may not turn out in numbers to fill out a team if you're too much of a hard@$$ on them. You can't change the culture by being soft and bending to the wills of everyone else, but I've seen just as many HS coaches falter by trying to go in and be Bear Bryant to "change the culture" in places where it's ingrained. That seldom goes well, either. I'm not sure I tried to be Bear Bryant and I don't think simple things like...passing classes, coming to school, not smoking weed, not selling weed at school, not buying weed at a team basketball camp in the summer...you know crazy chit like that is outside the realm of expectation. Another quick story about that place. My 2nd year one of my freshman decided not to play. He didn't play because his 8th grade GF was pregnant. 2 weeks into school he gets busted for selling weed at school. Get suspended 10 days (yea, that's not an expulsion there). He comes back and I ask "well how was your vacation?" He said "the first few days mom was pretty mad at me, but then she found out she was going to be a grandma and then she was happy." You get that? The mother of a sophomore boy is happy because his 8th grade girlfriend is pregnant...what the phuking phuk?!?!? We also ran the flexbone btw, our FB went for 2400 yds and like 60 TDs. But maybe it is that offense causing all the bad luck. LOL. If you would have ran the melter instead of the bone admin would have backed you, the drug problems would have dried up, and kids would be wearing condoms not to mention you'd be undefeated state champs for several years running. |
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Post by joelee on May 6, 2015 12:08:06 GMT -6
I'm sorry...but isn't this basically common sense to anyone who is past their first year as a teacher in any school district at any level? Isn't coaching basically teaching? joelee my HC'ing stop is a similar story to yours except I didn't get fired. Pardon the pun, but I came in like a wrecking ball and while I wasn't an a-hole about it, I was definitely not persuadable to let things go on that I didn't like or that I didn't feel was in the right direction. Culture needed to change from top to bottom. Kids, coaches, admin, boosters, parents...freakin everyone. So that's what I did and there is no doubt I ruffled a lot of feathers but after my 2nd year when it came time for my evaluation the AD said something to me that I didn't like...I had already been thinking about leaving for a host of reasons...so I told him to go F himself, walked out, went to my room and sent my letter of resignation to the Super, BOE, etc. I'm a good dude and I give a lot but you know..if you're drowning and you know how to swim but you simply you refuse to even try?? Then phuk it, I'm more than willing to watch you drown. I'll be g**d*mmed if I spend any of my time, energy or effort trying to save someone who isn't interested in saving themselves, and won't even try. Interesting note. On my staff I had 2 assistants who were the right kind of guys to have on staff. Those 2 and myself were disliked by the other staff members because we were "too dedicated and obsessed". They laughed at us, teased us, etc. (I was made to hire 4 of them) - I chit you not. So I left. Those 2 coaches also leave. First year gone, my DC plays for a state finals with his new school, this year my DB coach and I square off in the state semi-finals...meanwhile the school we all left went 0-10. Phuk those people. There's a reason they shoot sick/injured horses. I had to go back and be with my own kind so to speak. DC its so funny I identify with you too. Won a ring in 09, went to the wrong place and forgot how to coach in 10, got back in with a good program and won another ring in 13. One person in 10 actually said to my face that I must have been the water boy at my last school because I didn't know anything about football. |
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Post by lochness on May 6, 2015 12:25:22 GMT -6
I'm not sure I tried to be Bear Bryant and I don't think simple things like...passing classes, coming to school, not smoking weed, not selling weed at school, not buying weed at a team basketball camp in the summer...you know crazy chit like that is outside the realm of expectation. Another quick story about that place. My 2nd year one of my freshman decided not to play. He didn't play because his 8th grade GF was pregnant. 2 weeks into school he gets busted for selling weed at school. Get suspended 10 days (yea, that's not an expulsion there). He comes back and I ask "well how was your vacation?" He said "the first few days mom was pretty mad at me, but then she found out she was going to be a grandma and then she was happy." You get that? The mother of a sophomore boy is happy because his 8th grade girlfriend is pregnant...what the phuking phuk?!?!? We also ran the flexbone btw, our FB went for 2400 yds and like 60 TDs. But maybe it is that offense causing all the bad luck. LOL. If you would have ran the melter instead of the bone admin would have backed you, the drug problems would have dried up, and kids would be wearing condoms not to mention you'd be undefeated state champs for several years running. AND all the chess-club kids and tuba players would have come out for football to be part of your exciting offense!!!! |
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Post by silkyice on May 6, 2015 12:26:40 GMT -6
Interesting note. On my staff I had 2 assistants who were the right kind of guys to have on staff. Those 2 and myself were disliked by the other staff members because we were "too dedicated and obsessed". They laughed at us, teased us, etc. (I was made to hire 4 of them) - I chit you not. So I left. Those 2 coaches also leave. First year gone, my DC plays for a state finals with his new school, this year my DB coach and I square off in the state semi-finals...meanwhile the school we all left went 0-10. Phuk those people. There's a reason they shoot sick/injured horses. I had to go back and be with my own kind so to speak. Of all things to comment on in this thread, this one really caught my attention. There were grown men coaches making fun of other men for working too hard or caring too much?? I am a pretty easy going guy, but dang, I would have been beyond pissed off. LOL. DC, I would love to hear how you restrained yourself. |
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Post by lochness on May 6, 2015 12:28:35 GMT -6
I've been on a culture change journey with a new school. And, that's it...it's a JOURNEY. You can't change culture for real over night with heavy-handedness, etc. You need to do it by setting clear expectations, communicating those expectations over and over again, and holding people accountable in a fair and consistent manner when they don't meet those expectations.
The variables are whether your whole staff is bought in and behind you and whether or not the administration supports you.
But, being an a-hole about it, at least in my experience, is usually a self-defeating policy. I am as polite and caring a person with my players as you will find. But, I don't take any chit and I'm clear and consistent.
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Post by fantom on May 6, 2015 12:30:45 GMT -6
Interesting note. On my staff I had 2 assistants who were the right kind of guys to have on staff. Those 2 and myself were disliked by the other staff members because we were "too dedicated and obsessed". They laughed at us, teased us, etc. (I was made to hire 4 of them) - I chit you not. So I left. Those 2 coaches also leave. First year gone, my DC plays for a state finals with his new school, this year my DB coach and I square off in the state semi-finals...meanwhile the school we all left went 0-10. Phuk those people. There's a reason they shoot sick/injured horses. I had to go back and be with my own kind so to speak. Of all things to comment on in this thread, this one really caught my attention. There were grown men coaches making fun of other men for working too hard or caring too much?? I am a pretty easy going guy, but dang, I would have been beyond pissed off. LOL. DC, I would love to hear how you restrained yourself. "What, these new guys AREN"T douches? I'd better stay away from them." |
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Post by tothehouse on May 6, 2015 13:05:54 GMT -6
I'm sticking with DC here. I'm not different to any other clientele that I deal with. I have a good repose with students...tough and fair. I don't have too many good relationships with teachers, but I'm cordial.
The first 13 years at the place I'm at we won 80+% of our games. Got a couple rings, etc. Last two years we've been gawd awful for a ton a reasons. I don't think one of them is because of my personality. I know we've won because of who/what I am. Why should I be a raging idiot now that we have been struggling (including the school's first ever 0 fer season 2 years ago)?
I'm putting some of this on the kids. The talk of kids "trying hard" or being "go hards" leaked into some of our kids vocabulary. That, combined with playing in a league that rivals the SEC for high schools hasn't helped. But again...if I sit around and make it like I like getting our arses kicked...then what is that showing people??? That it's okay to be {censored}? Phuk that.
What DC explained is why...in 5 years (after my youngest gets out of HS) I'm done coaching. Somebody else that even thinks they can come close to what I've done for our program...can come in and take over for me. I'd like to see what happens to the program then. I hate saying that...but it's the truth.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 17:33:54 GMT -6
Let's keep in mind that Tom Hermann is a coach at a major FBS university and he's dealing with young adults who are elite scholarship athletes who have more elite scholarship athletes waiting to replace them if they fail to meet expectations. Most of us here are HS coaches working with public HS kids who may or may not turn out in numbers to fill out a team if you're too much of a hard@$$ on them. You can't change the culture by being soft and bending to the wills of everyone else, but I've seen just as many HS coaches falter by trying to go in and be Bear Bryant to "change the culture" in places where it's ingrained. That seldom goes well, either. I'm not sure I tried to be Bear Bryant and I don't think simple things like...passing classes, coming to school, not smoking weed, not selling weed at school, not buying weed at a team basketball camp in the summer...you know crazy chit like that is I outside the realm of expectation. Another quick story about that place. My 2nd year one of my freshman decided not to play. He didn't play because his 8th grade GF was pregnant. 2 weeks into school he gets busted for selling weed at school. Get suspended 10 days (yea, that's not an expulsion there). He comes back and I ask "well how was your vacation?" He said "the first few days mom was pretty mad at me, but then she found out she was going to be a grandma and then she was happy." You get that? The mother of a sophomore boy is happy because his 8th grade girlfriend is pregnant...what the phuking phuk?!?!? We also ran the flexbone btw, our FB went for 2400 yds and like 60 TDs. But maybe it is that offense causing all the bad luck. LOL. That's reasonable and i agree with everything you've written and the general point of the article. I had an experience at a $hitty school a couple of years ago. The HC who hired me turned out to be a perfect storm of stupid, lazy, and arrogant and made up a bunch of arbitrary rules to "change the culture" and show everybody what a hard@$$ disciplinarian he was. The result was that administration wanted to fast track him to be a principal, but his petty attitude about things nearly killed the football team. Numbers got as low as 16 his first season and 13 his second, then I came in and he abandoned enforcing any rules besides a few very counterproductive ones. Changing the culture is good. You have to have your rules and stand up for them for the good of your team... but being a jerk, by itself, isn't going to do it either. I'm afraid this article is giving the impression that a new HC needs to be a jerk to show everyone who's boss, but at a typical HS, the tactics Herman used at Houston just won't fly. |
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Post by olcoach53 on May 7, 2015 6:17:10 GMT -6
Things weren't so bad the first year coaches wise, but my 2nd year I was made to hire a guy who I didn't hire my first year, didn't want to hire my 2nd year but was made to. As soon as he was hired 2 of the assistants who had coached with him before joined with him and became the 3 laziest coaches I had ever seen. IDK, maybe I was asking too much. Asking them to come to weights at least 2 days a week. Be to practice on time. To set up their drills ahead of time...to PLAN their individual time, watch film, prepare for fridays. I mean look, I'm a good dude, and I certainly don't want to be an a-hole about things but when our coaches are figuring out drills during INDY time OR they spend 20 minutes of INDY time talking...yea, I'm going to have a problem with that and while I started off with "hey man, maybe you should plan INDY time and write up your drill order" if it becomes a consistent problem...which it did...eventually that "hey man, maybe..." is going to turn into "look MFer..." Dude I had to make 3 of them turn in their INDY schedule like homework before practice. It was ridiculous. They were bad youth coaches coaching at the varsity level. I coach football because I love the competition of it. At no time am I apart of this game for funzies or a participation ribbon and if I'm on your staff or you're on mine, you need to understand where I am coming from because if you're not of a similar mindset - there are going to be problems and I will be the cause of those problems and I am 100% OK with that. We are about to have an issue on our new defensive staff. 4 weeks ago, I gave the assistant coaches the responsibility of drawing up the pass game of 4 opponents and the run game of 4 opponents. Yesterday, my CB coach (who I coached with in Cinci) drew up 1 team's pass stuff, I drew up one team's run game and I sent an email "There are 2 weeks of school left, no one is going to want to draw this chit up in the summer. If you guys want me to draw up the run game I will but don't b!tch when I don't ask for your input when game planning this fall." - this is the 2nd reminder about the run game and honestly, it's starting to p!ss me off. This whole post angers me because there are too many good coaches out there who WANT to put in the work and then you have these rejects like DC is describing who barely give 50% effort. I have said it multiple times, if you can't commit 100% to coaching then DON'T COACH! |
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Post by freezeoption on May 7, 2015 6:18:03 GMT -6
there is a difference between being a jerk and being passionate, when a kid is not giving their all and is there just to take up air, then you will let them know, some may call that being a jerk, i call it being passionate, if i didn't give a crap about that kid i wouldn't tell him squat, kids give up, they want to do it the easy way, etc., i've only been to one place where it wasn't that way, so, you have to get those kids to perform at your expectations, this year was our first year of varsity, we had 30 come out, ended up with 17 making it through, had 2 injuries that ended kids season and the rest quit, we got to the core of who wanted to play quickly, had 20 in the jr high, not one quit, they were not babied, they will know what to expect,
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Post by IronmanFootball on May 7, 2015 7:11:27 GMT -6
I walked into a country club where there was nothing. No rules, no coaches (just dads), no budget, no players... nothing. I ran off the country clubbers, replaced them with hard working poor kids, built the program up, pissed off EVERYONE along the way, instilled strict rules and punishments, staved off a mutiny, and now this program is 5 kids from being a complete reflection of who I am. That's 27 of 32 kids I have. Team GPA is 3.5 unweighted and we had 1 referral all season, only 2 during off-season.
I ruled and still rule on a policy of it's my way or the highway. I rule that way while making personal connections to each kid and I handle college recruiting myself to show them I'm here for them, even if I get on you for that D grade or that class detention. I can tell you this- our discipline in the classroom is far superior to baseball, basketball, boys vb, soccer, etc.
We're not Amy Schumer's Football Town Nights:
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Post by coachphillip on May 7, 2015 7:56:41 GMT -6
All of the gripes over holdover staff is relevant to the OP in that I've always experienced more resistance to a culture change comes from incompetent coaches than from kids. You can eventually win kids over unless there's someone on staff in their ear, reminding them of the "good old days".
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Post by John Knight on May 7, 2015 11:50:01 GMT -6
non rowers are usually drilling holes!
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