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Post by tog on Jun 8, 2005 15:40:39 GMT -6
glad to have you smakk
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Post by Coach Huey on Jun 8, 2005 15:51:33 GMT -6
glad to have you on board, smakk.....love you signature as well.
also love the quote from steve spurrier, too...
"true, defense wins championships but i never won a championship when we didn't score."
lol.....love it.
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Post by meangreenfan on Jun 8, 2005 16:23:58 GMT -6
meangreenfan
I am more of a basketball guy but I love football and after I get my degree I plan to coach basketball, which means i will (possibly) also get to coach football (which is a good thing) HS we ran the I in JH we ran the wishbone only played hs football 1 year we always ran the 50 on defense.
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Post by tog on Jun 8, 2005 18:53:48 GMT -6
meangreenfan I am more of a basketball guy but I love football and after I get my degree I plan to coach basketball, which means i will (possibly) also get to coach football (which is a good thing) HS we ran the I in JH we ran the wishbone only played hs football 1 year we always ran the 50 on defense. As long as you love football. Welcome.
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Post by Split50 on Jun 8, 2005 19:52:24 GMT -6
I have been mostly a defensive coach, although coached a lot of offence in the early days. I have been a head coach. We try to base out of the 52, but show a lot of 43 as well. I have coached every position of the defensive side of the ball and most positions on offense. I coached with SlipScreen for two years and have known tog for several years. I am 63 years young and am still very active. I get fired up just thinking about football. Don't know near as much as I wish I did, but continue to try to learn everyday.
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champyun
Junior Member
Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well.
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Post by champyun on Jun 8, 2005 20:11:51 GMT -6
I have been mostly a defensive coach, although coached a lot of offence in the early days. I have been a head coach. We try to base out of the 52, but show a lot of 43 as well. I have coached every position of the defensive side of the ball and most positions on offense. I coached with SlipScreen for two years and have known tog for several years. I am 63 years young and am still very active. I get fired up just thinking about football. Don't know near as much as I wish I did, but continue to try to learn everyday. Don't be so modest Split. We know you've forgotten more football than we'll ever know. After all, you're the Godfather. Originally from the Houston area where my father was my HC in HS. I'm mainly an offense guy, but I like the "darkside" too. I've been a HC at two different schools (1A & 4A) and I've been a DC and OC at the 3A and 4A levels. I've coached OL 18 out of 19 years and will continue to coach it as a HC. After all, things don't work without the big boys up front. I firmly believe this is the area that is the most important (sorry Split!). I've also coached every position on defense, except the Secondary. Split.......by the way, it's good to have you in "civilization" now.
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Post by tog on Jun 8, 2005 20:15:18 GMT -6
you guys need to tell the true football students out there that you know to hook up on here and start talking some ball
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kw
Freshmen Member
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Post by kw on Jun 12, 2005 10:12:04 GMT -6
Chamyun,
I agree if you can’t run block or pass block you will be hard pressed to have any type of success. It has been my experience coaching at a jr. college one of the most under coached position at the HS level is the offensive line.
kw
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Post by veersite on Jun 12, 2005 11:12:02 GMT -6
Howdy, My name's Steve Smith, I've been coaching for around fifteen years if you count 3 years on the middle school /jr. high level. I have spent all but the last 3 coaching in Tennessee and am now currently an assistant just over the border in Kentucky. I have spent the majority in the 3A classification (in TN) which is roughly 750 - 1000 student enrollment schools. I have moved around a bit; been an assistant 4 years at my first school and 3 at my present... had 1 year stints at 3 schools in between... and 1 year where I burned-out and worked in the computer industry. I have to say that it is no coincidence that my 2 favorites (and the ones I stayed with the longest) are the schools that have had the best programs (and the best group of guys to be on staff with.) I have coached primarily on the offensive side of the ball (RBs, QBs, WRs) and hope to get some work down on the O line either this year or next. My favorite offense is the split back veer and a close second is the tight double wing. I give the nod to the veer simply because you can employ pro sets and spread the defense horizontally with the passing game and have a potent running game to boot. But I do love to see the counter-Trey bust wide-open from the double wing... man, decisions, decisions!! Defensively I prefer a shaded 50 front employing a drop lineman vs 1-back sets. I like to teach technique and alignment vs stunts and slants. I also think building character and giving your players the opportunity to go to college is the single most important measure of a coach there can be. Of course, you gotta win some to keep doing that, but you know what I mean! Anyway, that's enough about me. Looking forward to reading a lot of great posts on this new site. Coach Smith www.veersite.com
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homerj
Freshmen Member
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Post by homerj on Jun 12, 2005 15:38:23 GMT -6
HomerJ Texas
HS - Wing - T, 50, 4-3
College - player, LB - Multiple 4-3 College - st. DL coach - 4-3
HS #1 - I, Wing-Bone (Wing-T) / Split, 50 HS#2 - Slot-T, 4-4 was our base / but we were very multiple HS#3 - Wing-T / 4-3 HS#4 - Multiple I, the Fly Offense (mult. 2 back based off jet sweeps & motion) / 4-3
I love the Wing-T, I think there is so much you can do with it, you can be so multiple. The Fly Offense is awesome. It has Wing-T principles, but it a spread offense. The defense has to defend both flanks and the inside run, they also have to be disciplined, if not you'll be able to hurt them somewhere. You can go from either two backs or one back, you can still run your spread and gun stuff and the defense doesn't know whether your going to run the Fly sweep or not.
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Post by tog on Jun 12, 2005 15:45:31 GMT -6
hey homer j
good to see another fly guy
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homerj
Freshmen Member
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Post by homerj on Jun 12, 2005 15:48:25 GMT -6
Glad to be here.
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Post by tog on Jun 12, 2005 16:09:31 GMT -6
something Stratton, Rush Chairman, damn glad to meet ya,
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hawke
Sophomore Member
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Post by hawke on Jun 12, 2005 20:08:00 GMT -6
Hawke here. Have been in the game for about as long as split 50. Player and coach in organized football for 57 yrs. Played at all levels although NFL also means "Not For Long." From PA but played my college ball in Texas. Very multiple both sides of the ball. Prefer a bastardized 34 concept on D. Do run some 43 and 53. Very multiple incoverage schemes with 8 coverages that have 13 combinations. All adjustments come from the secondary is the reason for all the coverage schemes. Once the front is set, they play. 99.9% of all adjustments are made from the secondary. Hawke
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Post by Split50 on Jun 12, 2005 20:21:59 GMT -6
Take my word for it, guys, Hawke knows defense. He is very good and is willing to share. Better pick his brain now, because he is probably getting so old he is getting senile. He doesn't remember everything he used to remember. Right, Hawke. Glad to have you with us, buddy.
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Post by tog on Jun 12, 2005 20:35:16 GMT -6
hawke, thanks for joining in us younger guys can learn a lot from the older guys
can you tell us your system in a new post for how you get so multiple in your looks yet keep it simple for the kids?
is it similar to split's?
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Post by DLine06 on Jun 12, 2005 21:34:04 GMT -6
I play high school for the Kilgore Bulldogs.
Name is Scipio. Defensive Tackle for the Kilgore Bulldogs. Kilgore is located in East Texas, Piney Woods Region. We're in an area with two other state champions, Tyler Lee ( Div. 1 5A) and Gilmer (Div.2 3A) along with two other schools that were state finalists Marshall (Div. 1 4A) and Troup (Div.2 2A).
For the most part, I'm fascinated with football and thought about coaching either as an Offensive or Defensive Line. I'm either becoming an engineer, awyer or coach... Haven't decided on a college but I've narrowed it down to UT, Texas Tech or SFA.
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Oz1
Sophomore Member
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Post by Oz1 on Jun 12, 2005 22:12:41 GMT -6
oz1
in high school i played at three different school and played in four different offensive schemes from the wishbone at Houston Stratford to the Mulitiple 2 back in Whitesboro My Junior year back in Houson, at Northbrook we ran a straight run and shoot offense and my senior year we ran "I"
i mainly played TE till my senior year when I was moved to center.
defense
in high school i have experience in the 4-3 and the split 6
i mainly played DE
in college we ran the the spread Offense and i played OT
just finished my 5 year of coaching
love every min. of it
I coach the O-line
I am always looking to find good reading material for football.
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scooby
Sophomore Member
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Post by scooby on Jun 13, 2005 8:14:24 GMT -6
Have been coaching for 16 years in Texas, first 5 at the Jr High level. Was mostly a Defensive guy until recently, coached the split (multiple 4-4), Miami or College 4-3, True 5-2 and also the 3-4...LB's (inside and out) and Secondary (my true love on defense). Recently made the switch to Offense and am the OC in a multiple tackle over I and spread gun offense. Hve coached QB's, RB's and helped with the OL (not my strongest, but I'm learning). Have been around I, Spread, and Wishbone offenses, but have seen a little of everything gameplanning as a defensive guy. Like to read more on football than type on it, and have been known to be a bit of a smart azz on some boards (won't do it here, I promise). Looking forward to learning from you guys.
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Post by phantom on Jun 13, 2005 19:35:49 GMT -6
I'm in Virginia, have coached for 25 years, and have been on coaching message boards pretty much for as long as there have been message boards. I'm a DC and work with DBs and OL. We run an 8 man front (4-2 and some 3-3) but we have run 43 and shade 50. Offensively we run an I but we have run bone and I-bone. Although I've been here since 1977 I'm a Pennsylvania native and have known Hawke for quite a while. Ask him about Black Monday some time.
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Post by tog on Jun 13, 2005 21:17:16 GMT -6
Have been coaching for 16 years in Texas, first 5 at the Jr High level. Was mostly a Defensive guy until recently, coached the split (multiple 4-4), Miami or College 4-3, True 5-2 and also the 3-4...LB's (inside and out) and Secondary (my true love on defense). Recently made the switch to Offense and am the OC in a multiple tackle over I and spread gun offense. Hve coached QB's, RB's and helped with the OL (not my strongest, but I'm learning). Have been around I, Spread, and Wishbone offenses, but have seen a little of everything gameplanning as a defensive guy. Like to read more on football than type on it, and have been known to be a bit of a smart azz on some boards (won't do it here, I promise). Looking forward to learning from you guys. hell, scooby, you need a whole section to yourself here for the bunch passing game people, if you want to know how to run bunch, this is THE MAN if you want to know qb/rb/secondary stuff, this guy can teach ol guys what the heck is going on in ways their thick skulls can understand
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Post by veerfan78 on Jun 14, 2005 13:23:52 GMT -6
I'm from Illinois
High school-I form running belly/option, trap, counter/trey, dive and iso College-WingT/I running zone and spread off. last two years Coaching-Have been in wishbone, I, and split back veer.
Now coaching D-Line at a 5a school and calling the soph. D for last 3 years. I coached OL at college level for one year prior to now. I played OT for four years there. Everyone may recieve more questions than answers from me, but I'll give ya what can.
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Post by tog on Jun 14, 2005 21:09:56 GMT -6
veerfan
good questions, or even so called simple questions are good for everyone to think about as it makes one think
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Post by coach1234567 on Jun 14, 2005 22:27:39 GMT -6
Hello. I am a new coach at a HS in the midwest. I will be coaching offense and defense for the 9th grade team. We run the I and a 4-3 on defense.
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Post by Olineiq on Jun 16, 2005 11:04:57 GMT -6
Hey, Currently in Pearland Texas, Coached JH 2 years multiple I zone & trap plus multiple 4-3 defense Oline, D-line and Linebackers Grad Assistant linebackers in the 3-4 we had a staff turn over and helped develop 3-4 based on University of North Dakota Currently JH coach in Multiple I and 6-1 rover
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Post by midlinemoney on Jun 17, 2005 9:24:12 GMT -6
Great Job with the board TOG.
High School- Mulitple I on offense, 4-4 base on defense with a myriad of fronts mixed in.
College- West Coast Offense
I am a HC at a small school in the midwest.
Currently running mulitiple formation offense. Running game- midline, iv, ov, gt counter, iso, passing- basic routes from mulitple sets. Defense- have been 4-4 but looking at 4-3,3-4,or 5-2 invert, any one have any information?
TOG we have spoken before over email, and once again thanks. Keep up the good work.
Midlinemoney
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Post by tog on Jun 17, 2005 9:29:16 GMT -6
good to have ya!
midline is a money play
i love it
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Post by tog on Jun 17, 2005 9:30:55 GMT -6
Great Job with the board TOG. Midlinemoney just to clarify, this is Huey's board. I am the PR department.
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Post by sunshinepreps on Jun 20, 2005 7:06:24 GMT -6
Impressive site!
I am a Florida guy, born and raised in Tampa. I am not officially a coach, but work with coaches all around the state of Florida. I have coached in the past and have a great passion for the game and the kids. I look forward to some great football discussion with you guys.
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Post by tog on Jun 20, 2005 7:16:47 GMT -6
spread the word sunshine
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