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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 19:56:22 GMT -6
Has anyone else had a bad experience with your kids from putting stats on MaxPreps? Not the site itself, which is fine at what it does, but I'm talking about the way kids interpret the stats on the site.
Our kids are religiously checking it out, but they focus on where they're ranked nationally or in the state. Because very few teams actually put stats on there (which I try to point out but they conveniently forget), they see that they're "#2 in the nation in tackles" or "the #9 freshman FB in the nation" (with all of 220 rushing yards after 5 games) or whatever and are getting big heads about it.
Our very mediocre OLB has 38 tackles after 5 games, which puts him somewhere in the top 50 in our state on there, and he thinks Alabama will be beating a path to his door any day now if we'll just blitz him more. We even had a different parent bring up his boy's MaxPreps ranking to us the other day...
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Post by 90rocket on Sept 30, 2014 20:25:32 GMT -6
Just to piggy back off this topic...We had a newspaper guy come in the other day to interview one of my captains. His question was what was your greatest athletic accomplishment? My kids answer.."probably finishing 2nd in the state in tackles my sophomore year." He's a senior now and is a very average player. The staff that was here his sophomore year obviously put stats on maxpreps. I got a pretty good chuckle out of that one.
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Post by coachbdud on Sept 30, 2014 21:14:57 GMT -6
We haven't had any issues but I can see what you mean
Some of the stats are very elevated Especially defensively
Offensive stats are kept by local newspapers so it's easy for me to add them from box scores
Defensive guys are terrible lol Last year this teams FS had almost 100 solo tackles and only like 20 assisted tackles... Come on man... Really?
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Post by dytmook on Sept 30, 2014 21:24:36 GMT -6
We don't use max preps but our kids are too focused on stats. Like our qb who puts up gaudy numbers was mad twice this year, once we had a running clock second half so he didn't get stats but win 42-7 and this past week where he was like 16-22 for 190 and ran for 110 with a passing and rushing td. Stats don't get you college looks, but they think they do.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 30, 2014 21:31:31 GMT -6
The underlying theme to this thread is one of the reasons I think helmet stickers are stupid
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Post by olcoach53 on Oct 1, 2014 5:14:02 GMT -6
I take stats both offensively and defensively after our games and plug them into Maxpreps. I feel like it is a good site to use and really we have no problems with it and our kids. They have good competitiveness with it and I feel like they are pretty accurate stats.
I know defensive stats can be the real hard part because everybody takes them down differently.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 1, 2014 6:27:47 GMT -6
We use maxpreps and most of the reputable teams in our state do as well so the stats are pretty accurate. Of course there are always those teams especially like others have pointed out on defense with out landish stat. I will also admit I use that stats to fire our teams up, we like to point out where we are rushing in the state to pump kid up and like I said it's mostly the good programs so our kids get a kick out of seeing us listed with the big power houses in the state.
Be honest I wish our state would mandate reporting of stats to a maxpreps like site. I enjoy seeing state leaders and all that since we have a governing association that isn't the best in doing that kind of stuff. Not to beat a dead horse but of course defensive stats would be all over the place since everyone has a different definition of a tackle.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 1, 2014 7:14:43 GMT -6
No idea whay it wont let me edit...but after reading this went on maxpreps and checked out stats. Low and behold we have a kid tied for int lead in the state, so of course I tweeted that out! LOL Sometimes ya gotta throw a dog a bone...
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Post by coachbdud on Oct 1, 2014 11:32:43 GMT -6
Offensively I pump up the kids with our stats Especially my OL Fat kids don't get any love So if I can tell them they're blocking for the 3rd leading rusher in CA it gives them a little love
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Post by dubber on Oct 2, 2014 9:56:04 GMT -6
We don't use it.
Our sectional is filled with teams outside our area, and MaxPreps is just another place for them to score info on us.
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Post by coach2013 on Oct 3, 2014 9:18:29 GMT -6
we boast about those stats on facebook, twitter and everything else, anything to help us attract kids to the program.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Oct 5, 2014 12:30:53 GMT -6
I'm torn between how much scouting do I give away for free and I need to legitimize my program to outside eyes. Charter schools have it especially rough bc no one "has to" attend. Some people don't even know we exist or have FB. Max helps that cause.
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Post by fantom on Oct 5, 2014 12:51:16 GMT -6
We don't use it. Our sectional is filled with teams outside our area, and MaxPreps is just another place for them to score info on us. How much really useful info can they really get there though?
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Post by dubber on Oct 6, 2014 8:55:59 GMT -6
We don't use it. Our sectional is filled with teams outside our area, and MaxPreps is just another place for them to score info on us. How much really useful info can they really get there though? One of our WR's account for 45% of our completions, 60% of our receiving yardage, and 75% of our receiving TD's. The teams in our area know that, and he is starting to get bracketted. If he goes the final two regular season games with so-so games, then he comes into the first round with a "clean slate" from a scheme standpoint. Maybe a small advantage, but we'll take it.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 6, 2014 9:18:25 GMT -6
How much really useful info can they really get there though? One of our WR's account for 45% of our completions, 60% of our receiving yardage, and 75% of our receiving TD's. The teams in our area know that, and he is starting to get bracketted. If he goes the final two regular season games with so-so games, then he comes into the first round with a "clean slate" from a scheme standpoint. Maybe a small advantage, but we'll take it. Wouldn't that be pretty obvious on film?
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Post by fantom on Oct 6, 2014 10:44:00 GMT -6
How much really useful info can they really get there though? One of our WR's account for 45% of our completions, 60% of our receiving yardage, and 75% of our receiving TD's. The teams in our area know that, and he is starting to get bracketted. If he goes the final two regular season games with so-so games, then he comes into the first round with a "clean slate" from a scheme standpoint. Maybe a small advantage, but we'll take it. That info isn't hard to find from other sources.
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Post by coachbdud on Oct 6, 2014 10:53:49 GMT -6
Exactly
You can easily go on any newspapers website and get box scores
Or even just send hudl requests to other opponents and they'll often send stuff
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Post by dubber on Oct 6, 2014 14:32:09 GMT -6
Exactly You can easily go on any newspapers website and get box scores Or even just send hudl requests to other opponents and they'll often send stuff That's fine, but they can go get it, I am not providing it. Besides, every paper that covers us requires a subscription to get news stories. So, I will make my opponents support the local paper to get an advantage. @phantom wingtolI know you two are veteran coaches......probably been coaching longer than I have been alive. Maybe it is something that we will care less about as we get older. Right now, however, our thinking is this: if they only get the last two films, where those teams make a concerted effort to blanket our stud and limit his output, then we feel that is our advantage when the playoffs come. Also, I think the last two films weigh harder on a coach's game plan. Case in point in college we had a WR who went the entire season without a catch, and then first round of playoffs catches 5 TD's (like a Max McGee story on steroids). The next game, he is getting triple teamed. Now the opposing coach had all the stats, and all the games we had played up to that point. Yet that last game was a deciding factor in his game plan. This is why it is so impressive when a running back in the NFL has a consecutive 100 yard game streak going.......very often, he gets a 100 in a couple games, and then he sees 8 man fronts all the time for a while. It works in reverse (in my opinion) too. Add in the fact they only get the last 2 films (no common opponents), and our stud could be even more camoflauged. Like I said, ANY advantage.
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