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Post by motiv on Jul 28, 2014 9:44:40 GMT -6
Yes, I have been spoiled with a turf field in the past. I need to line our practice field from scratch. How do I go about that and maintain perfect angles and distance?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 10:57:11 GMT -6
It's a practice field. Don't worry about it being perfect. "Close enough" should work fine there.
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Post by motiv on Jul 28, 2014 11:04:47 GMT -6
It's a practice field. Don't worry about it being perfect. "Close enough" should work fine there. I want to be as close to it as possible for teaching purposes. I use to be at a place where the coach made two right angles in opposite endzones but I can't remember how he did it. |
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Post by silkyice on Jul 28, 2014 11:06:57 GMT -6
Yes, I have been spoiled with a turf field in the past. I need to line our practice field from scratch. How do I go about that and maintain perfect angles and distance? Does it have goalpost on both ends that are accurate? If it does, it is still hard, but not too hard. |
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Post by jg78 on Jul 28, 2014 11:36:56 GMT -6
Yes, I have been spoiled with a turf field in the past. I need to line our practice field from scratch. How do I go about that and maintain perfect angles and distance? You're only painting straight lines and right angles. Not hard to do. The dimensions are 360' x 160'. String it and paint it and there's your outline of the field. And then fill it in from there. |
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Post by fugulookinat on Jul 28, 2014 11:55:19 GMT -6
Haven't done it in a long time, but the easiest way is to drive a stake in the ground at the point where the center of the crossbar on a goalpost would be. Measure 80 ft to each side and drive a 1/2 in piece of pipe into the ground flush with the dirt. Do the same thing on the opposite end of the field. Use a discus tape measure, or the longest one you can find, and measure the distance from one goalpost stake to the other on the opposite end of the field. Each sideline should be the same distance as the goalpost stake measurement. Be sure to round the measurement down to the nearest 10 yd increment if your field isn't 360 ft long. Once the field is measured and square, go back to each of the 1/2 in pieces of pipe and paint the tops orange, this will make them easier to find the next time you need to mark it. When you get ready to mark it, tie a rope to a piece of rebar and slide the rebar into the 1/2 in pipe. Then just paint the line, we used diesel instead of paint and it would last the entire season, but some schools frown upon this practice these days. After the outside markings are down, just measure and paint the end zones then every 5 yds down the field to the other end.
If you want it to look really sharp, build a marking box. It's made out of 1x4's(2 pieces 3 ft long and 2 pieces 4 inches long). Build a rectangular box using screws to attach the 4 inch pieces inside the 3 ft pieces. Drill a hole in the center of one of the 4 inch blocks and feed a rope through it, then tie a knot in the rope . The other end of the rope should be 4-5 feet from the box when it's sitting on the ground. Finally, cut a notch at each end of the box on the bottom side. The 2 notches need to be a little bigger diameter than the line between your pieces of rebar. When your ready to paint, string a line between two pieces of rebar. Sit the notches of the box on top of the line, the have one person slowly pull the box down the line while 1 or 2 other guys walk beside the box with hand held sprayers mixed with paint( these are like what you would spray weeds with). This will make a perfectly straight 4" line, it takes a little time, but looks awesome when it's done.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 12:03:35 GMT -6
It's a practice field. Don't worry about it being perfect. "Close enough" should work fine there. I want to be as close to it as possible for teaching purposes. I use to be at a place where the coach made two right angles in opposite endzones but I can't remember how he did it. Understood. Some string and a t-square can help there. It won't be perfect, but it will be pretty close. Do the corners of the end zone first with string and the t squares to make sure the lines are even, then draw the lines. For hashes, you can save yourself time by just painting vertical lines or only putting one on each 10 yard marker. |
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Post by coachg13 on Jul 28, 2014 14:39:29 GMT -6
Like others have said, find the four corners first. Then just outline the field and fill in from there. We do a solid line all the way down both hashes and tops of #s to save time.
Biggest tip would be to mix a bunch of RoundUp or some kind of weed killer in your paint for the practice field. Lasts the whole season.
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Post by macdiiddy on Jul 28, 2014 19:51:30 GMT -6
The more string you have the better.
Lay out your rectangle. After laying the lines flat, the only issue you need to be concerned with is if your lines are not perfectly straight (so your out of bounds line would curve in or out). You can either paint it and fix it next week when its easier to tell how straight your line is, or you can lay down multiple yard lines down to ensure your field is 53.3 yards wide through out. (So put a string on the 50, Goal lines and the 25's while your rectangle is still laid out).
As far as, keeping it consistent week to week. You can normally trace your lines for 3 or so weeks before your human error of tracing starts getting visibly noticeable. In which case, bring the string back out, shake the string straight and paint a straighter line.
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Post by nhsehs on Jul 28, 2014 20:00:21 GMT -6
It's a practice field. Don't worry about it being perfect. "Close enough" should work fine there. I want to be as close to it as possible for teaching purposes. I use to be at a place where the coach made two right angles in opposite endzones but I can't remember how he did it. To construct a right angle, use the 3-4-5 right triangle relationship. Measure out 3 ft and 4 ft from a corner of the EZ, creating the beginning of the back line of the EZ and sideline. If the distance from the measured points is 5 ft, you have your right angle. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 22:07:31 GMT -6
Like others have said, find the four corners first. Then just outline the field and fill in from there. We do a solid line all the way down both hashes and tops of #s to save time. Biggest tip would be to mix a bunch of RoundUp or some kind of weed killer in your paint for the practice field. Lasts the whole season. How do you paint your field that allows you to mix weed killer in there? Everywhere I've been, we've just used cans of spray paint. |
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Post by codeblue on Jul 28, 2014 22:41:14 GMT -6
If you have a gas powered or co2 powered paint sprayer that requires the bulk mixed paint then you just add the weed killer when you mix the paint with the water. Just make sure you label everything well. One year we painted an end zone by mistake with the roundup. The paint lasted in the end zone until spring!
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Post by newt21 on Jul 29, 2014 9:17:06 GMT -6
I honestly don't paint up a full size practice field. I cut it down to save on paint and the time needed to measure out and paint it. My total field size is about 60 yards instead of a full 120 (40 with 2 10 yard endzones; width is the proper size though) and I don't paint every 10 yards, I paint every 20 with a marker at every 10 so we will have the distances still marked out.
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Post by airraider on Jul 29, 2014 9:29:12 GMT -6
Just keep in mind.. that when trying to put the string at a right angle with the end 360' away.. even a small fraction of an inch out of square could put you off by several feet on the other end.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 29, 2014 15:13:11 GMT -6
use the 3-4-5, but set the distance to 30-40-50. The 30 is 10 yards and makes the goal line. It also gives a much greater line to site on for the sideline.
From the corner pin go out on the endline 40' and plant a pin. Attach a tape measure or string or something at that point. From the corner go out 30'. Now match that 30' with the 50' on the other tape measure. That sets the intersection of the sideline and the goal line. Run your 350' string down the sideline and stake it off, visually checking the alignment. Pull the string tight before you pin it. Now do the same thing at the other corner. Measure off 15' on each sideline for the 5 yard markers, on both sidelines. When you run out of room or have a full field, match the marks on each sideline, run a string, and paint. Works pretty well even with 6 or 7 coaches helping.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 29, 2014 15:15:35 GMT -6
By the way, if I were a math/geometry teacher this would be one of my field exercises - pick a field a lay it out. I always thought that would be a good practical exercise for a class - teams would have to lay out a football field, or a soccer field, or a lacrosse field. How to start, how to set the angles, circles, etc.
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Post by macdiiddy on Jul 29, 2014 20:14:18 GMT -6
Like others have said, find the four corners first. Then just outline the field and fill in from there. We do a solid line all the way down both hashes and tops of #s to save time. Biggest tip would be to mix a bunch of RoundUp or some kind of weed killer in your paint for the practice field. Lasts the whole season. How do you paint your field that allows you to mix weed killer in there? Everywhere I've been, we've just used cans of spray paint. We have a gas powered painter. With a 10 gallon tank. It is a lot cheaper to buy the concentrate then to paint with spray cans. |
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Post by mbianco on Jul 30, 2014 19:59:23 GMT -6
Am I correct in believing that the HS hashes are the same width as the HS goalposts?
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Post by macdiiddy on Jul 30, 2014 20:28:40 GMT -6
Am I correct in believing that the HS hashes are the same width as the HS goalposts? Nope. I dont know the width of the goal post off hand, but the hashes are 53.3 feet from the sidelines. |
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Post by silkyice on Jul 30, 2014 20:29:02 GMT -6
Am I correct in believing that the HS hashes are the same width as the HS goalposts? no |
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Post by airraider on Jul 30, 2014 20:29:08 GMT -6
Am I correct in believing that the HS hashes are the same width as the HS goalposts? Hashes are wider than the goal posts. Goal posts are like 20 something feet wide. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 22:37:38 GMT -6
Am I correct in believing that the HS hashes are the same width as the HS goalposts? No. That's the NFL and Arena league, which is why theirs are only 18' 6" apart. The league wants the ball consistently spotted in the middle of the field to open up the passing game. I'm surprised they don't just make one single hash mark exactly in the middle and be done with it. HS hashes divide the field evenly into 1/3s. NCAA hashes are a little closer together, but still more than twice as far apart as the NFL's. |
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Post by mbianco on Aug 1, 2014 7:31:47 GMT -6
Thanks
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