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Post by fbch75 on Apr 16, 2014 21:24:44 GMT -6
I wanted to get some ideas of how some of you plan your practices when most of your team plays both ways. We have about 25 players going into spring ball. How do you break up your practice periods?
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Post by gibbs72 on Apr 16, 2014 21:28:50 GMT -6
When we had a small roster we did a ton of half line. Max reps while getting everyone a chance to be in the drill
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 17, 2014 3:19:03 GMT -6
Half line is good stuff.
I think you need to decide if you want Indy time every day for a a shorter amount of it time, or do O Indy one day, and D Indy another and do them longer. I have done both, and prefer the former.
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Post by buckeye7525 on Apr 17, 2014 5:31:24 GMT -6
gibbs72 groundchuckWhen you are doing half-line how are you setting it up to make sure that everyone is getting max reps? Also, when you do half-line are you working specific parts of the offense or is it done for a team setting?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 10:16:56 GMT -6
If you have any way of splitting up and having two half line drills going at once you can have every player involved and a ton of reps.
For example the right side of your offense is running its plays while the left side is running there plays. Go back and forth between each side so that one side is resetting while the other side is running their plays. If you are short on numbers just put the essential defensive players that you need to block. You can have the QB and RB in there or just line and TE is you are short on numbers.
You can use the same concept on defense. One half of your defense goes through their reads and reactions while the other side resets, etc. Great way to test option assignments, gap control, reads against pulling guards.
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Post by coachfloyd on Apr 17, 2014 10:30:51 GMT -6
If you have any way of splitting up and having two half line drills going at once you can have every player involved and a ton of reps. For example the right side of your offense is running its plays while the left side is running there plays. Go back and forth between each side so that one side is resetting while the other side is running their plays. If you are short on numbers just put the essential defensive players that you need to block. You can have the QB and RB in there or just line and TE is you are short on numbers. You can use the same concept on defense. One half of your defense goes through their reads and reactions while the other side resets, etc. Great way to test option assignments, gap control, reads against pulling guards. this is what we do. we go half offense and have wr too. we have a coach or hurt player stand behind the defense with play cards that have a couple of runs and a couple of PA passes. Best look we have gotten. You actually get a chance on your playaction in practice. We do this for about 20 minutes. We have a set number of plays we will practice according to what we think we willl get this week and after 5 minutes we switch the qbs and rbs. centers switch a few times. one group is setting up while the other is running a play. after 10 mins we switch the plays and do something different. Then our team is very short and only consists of our complementary plays and passes.
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Post by spartan on Apr 17, 2014 13:01:41 GMT -6
We practice Offense for 40 mins and defense for 40 mins. It doubles your depth. Then we group up and rotate through. Email me and I'll send you some practice plans
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 17, 2014 13:30:30 GMT -6
Doubling your depth is key.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 20:13:46 GMT -6
I've always thought it was pretty standard to do roughly 1 hour of offense, 1 hour of defense, and about 20 minutes of special teams each day.
I like the idea of 1/2 line and we'll hopefully get to incorporate some of it next year, but with 25 players you're not going to be able to get a pair of 1/2 line drills going at once (you'd need about 14 players per drill).
Another good thing is to go and invest in large trash cans at Home Depot. Spend about $100 on 10 of them and use them in non-contact drills in place of players standing around and holding bags and stuff.
If you get really careful, you may be able to "find" some extra Indy time by doing little things like keeping your starting OL off special teams and drilling them while everyone else works on those. Another idea is keeping your QB and C (and maybe a few scrubs) on offense only and letting them get some extra work with the OC on Indy drills or snapping and holding kicks for a kicker while everyone else works defense. If one of those guys can punt, even better.
Another thing that helped us at my last school was having a coach work as the scout offense QB and call the plays, since he'll actually have some idea how the plays are supposed to work and it'll save you a player.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 9:07:12 GMT -6
Have a full half line drill going like you mentioned above (14 players) and have the remaining 11 do something else right beside you. Maybe individual work, plays or routes on air or whatever. Then they are right there to rotate in to half line.
One year we did this with success. Full half line going with the remainder right beside us running the same play on air or throwing a PAP. They ran while the half line group reset and rotated in.
On defense we had a half line group while the others did stunts and pass drops on air and then rotated in.
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Post by gibbs72 on Apr 18, 2014 13:22:03 GMT -6
gibbs72 groundchuckWhen you are doing half-line how are you setting it up to make sure that everyone is getting max reps? Also, when you do half-line are you working specific parts of the offense or is it done for a team setting? Eagle side is on D while the Hawk (weak) side runs plays . We do the same playa 3 times in a row: jog thru, full speed, 2nd team full speed. Best way we found to maximize reps. After 10 min the Eagle and Hawk sides switch
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Post by gibbs72 on Apr 18, 2014 13:25:26 GMT -6
Our head coach changed our stretching this year to individual positions. I get a lot of my secondary fundamentals done in a slower, stretch environment. So we do secondary in phase and ball drills as our stretching. Let's me get more reps on scheme during indi time
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Post by s73 on Apr 19, 2014 12:08:11 GMT -6
We do the following: Warm up - 10 Offensive Fundamentals all levels together - 15 Defensive Fundamentals all levels together - 15
Offense Practice Indy - 10 Group - 20 (half line run on Tuesdays & Pass on Wed.) Team - 25
Special Teams 15
Defense Practice Indy - 10 Group - 20 (ILB DL Inside Run / OLB & Db's = Perimeter run on Tuesdays & 7 on 7 & pass rush on Wed.) Team 25
That's 2h 45 M I think this is a reasonable amount of time to practice when you have kids going both ways. Also, we practice our V/S together to maximize coaching numbers and improve continuity from level to level.
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Post by coachorm on Apr 20, 2014 20:19:22 GMT -6
In the spring we have 10 practices, including 2 scrimmages within that 10 days. We do: Monday - Defense, with 10 minute offense at end for Goal Line Tuesday - Offense, with 10min defense goalline. Wednesday - Defense, with 10min offense. Thursday - 1 hour defense, 1 hour offense. Friday- Scrimmage
During Season: Monday - Film, Special Teams, Defense Align to Opponents Formations, Offense preview of Opponents defensive fronts and Install any trick plays or adjustments, Condition, Occasionally a JV game.
Tuesday - Defense Day All Day, Punt Return/Block, 10min Offense for Goalline
Wednesday - Offense Day All Day, Punt Team, 10min Defense for Goalline
Thursday - Walk Through like the rest of America.
Friday - Under the Lights.
Probably 80% of our players are 2-way players. This format has worked well for us the last 3 years.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 21, 2014 17:17:16 GMT -6
Couple years ago when we had 27 kids we didn't go half line, but we went the right side varsity and left side JV and tried to run a lot of plays to the right and some to the left to keep the defense honest. We put the left side starters on scout D to give us a better look. Halfway through team time we'd switch and the left side guys would come to O and the right side guys go to D. That way you always have a good defensive look for your starters and it gives you an opportunity to get backups/the future of your program some looks and coaching with the varsity level.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 21, 2014 17:22:09 GMT -6
I wanted to get some ideas of how some of you plan your practices when most of your team plays both ways. We have about 25 players going into spring ball. How do you break up your practice periods? We practice Offense on Tuesdays, Defense on Wednesdays. They look like this- Stretch Indy Indy Conditioning Water Special Team Inside Run/7on7 Conditioning Water Special Team Team Maybe Conditioning End.
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