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Post by fantom on Nov 12, 2013 11:55:37 GMT -6
As an offshoot to the question about playoff formats, when and where are your state championship games held?
In Virginia we play our games on Dec. 14 at three separate sites. The smallest classifications, 1A and 2A, play at Salem Stadium, near Roanoke. 3A and 4A play at Liberty University in Lynchburg and 5A and 6A play at the Unuversity of Virginia in Charlottesville. At each site there's a 1:00 and 4:00 game.
Splitting up the games makes sense because of the geography. Almost all of the larger schools are located on the corridor from Virginia Beach, through Richmond up to D.C. UVA is equally accessible to most of the larger schools. The only thing that I don't like about it is that even a good HS crowd looks small in a 60,000 seat college stadium. The other sites make sense for the lower classifications because their schools are spread more into western VA.
There are people who are trying to get all games played at the same site but the questions are how to play all six games played in the same site and finding a site that will attract fans of all classifications.
How is it in your state?
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Post by bigcroz on Nov 12, 2013 12:33:07 GMT -6
In Michigan The State Finals are held at Ford Field the Friday and Saturday following Thanksgiving. There are 8 Div and the Odd's play on one day with the Evens playing the other. 4 games a day makes for a great weekend of football if you can grab Lions tickets for Thanksgiving!
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Post by rudyrude9 on Nov 12, 2013 12:33:14 GMT -6
In Wisconsin the games are played at Camp Randall.
Divisons 4-7 are played on Thursday November 21st. 10 am, 1 pm, 4 pm, 7 pm
Divisons 1-3 are played on Friday November 22nd 10 am, 1 pm, 4 pm
Then we all go shoot some deer on the weekend!
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Post by Chris Clement on Nov 12, 2013 12:38:49 GMT -6
All the championship games in Ontario are held in the SkyDome. In Manitoba much of the playoffs are held in the Bombers/Bisons stadium because it gets dark so early and few schools have lights.
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Post by spos21ram on Nov 12, 2013 12:41:31 GMT -6
Rhode Island - This year the championships are played on 12/8 & 12/9 depending on what division you are. Recently the championship games have been played at Cranston Stadium (weak compared to high school "stadium's" down south). Both of the Cranston high schools play there for home games. Other years the games have been played at local college's. Bryant College and URI mostly.
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Post by fantom on Nov 12, 2013 12:47:03 GMT -6
In Wisconsin the games are played at Camp Randall. Divisons 4-7 are played on Thursday November 21st. 10 am, 1 pm, 4 pm, 7 pm Divisons 1-3 are played on Friday November 22nd 10 am, 1 pm, 4 pm Then we all go shoot some deer on the weekend! How is the attendance for the weekday day games?
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Post by cvaughan598 on Nov 12, 2013 13:14:14 GMT -6
NC rotates between Wake Forest, UNC, and NCSU. Duke used to be in the rotation but I don't think they are anymore. Usually 3-4 games at each venue on Friday 13 - Saturday the 14th.
Usually a Friday at 7, Sat at 10, Sat at 3/4, and Sat at 7pm start.
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Post by coachpsl on Nov 12, 2013 13:23:50 GMT -6
In Kentucky all 6 classes hold Championships at Western Kentucky University's field. Its done over a 2 day span, 3 games on Friday and 3 on Saturday. WKU's stadium is newly renovated and is the minimum size for a D1 school so when 2 teams with good traveling fanbases make it, it really feels full. I personally love it, it used to be held at Louisville's Papa John's Stadium and it felt empty to me. But I'm a WKU Alum so I am biased as it gives me a chance to go back to campus every year!
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Post by beebe on Nov 12, 2013 13:43:45 GMT -6
Louisiana used to be 5 classes on the 2nd Friday (2) and Saturday (3) of December in the Superdome. Now there are 4 divisions of private schools and 5 classes of public schools. Same weekend starting on Thursday...3 games each day...first year trying this.
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 12, 2013 14:32:43 GMT -6
Illinois- 8 classes
Classes 1-4A- Friday after Thanksgiving- 11am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm Classes 5-8A- Saturday- same times
At Northern Illinois University this year. University of Illinois next. Then rotate yearly.
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Post by gekruse on Nov 12, 2013 14:48:09 GMT -6
Iowa - 5 11-man classes and 1 8-man class.
Finals are Thursday, Nov 21 & Friday, Nov 22 at the UNI Dome on the campus of Northern Iowa. 8 man, Class A and Class 3A are on Thursday with Class 1A, Class 2A and Class 4A on Friday. We also play the semi-finals at the UNI dome and they start this Thursday and go until Saturday.
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Post by tigercoach11 on Nov 12, 2013 15:17:23 GMT -6
New Mexico:
Teams have the opportunity to hold Finals at their home field (its the rule for the semi's as well). Goes to past playoff history dating back to 1957 (i think). So say team A played at team B's place in 1999 and now the two teams are set to play team B must got to team A's field for the finals. Travel rule: if the trip is under 300 miles the home team may decide when game is to be played (options: friday night @7, Sat @ 1 or 2). If the trip is over 300 miles then the game is automatically set Saturday @ 2.
Kind of different but it does actually have some cool aspects but I am undecided on if I am a fan or not. We hosted the Finals last year and I think it was more trouble than it was worth and we still lost after all that trouble. It is a pretty cool setting at the small school games though. Those little stadiums get PACKED!
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Post by wingtol on Nov 12, 2013 16:24:27 GMT -6
PA-- 4 games played on two days in Hershey PA. Yup the place they make the candy. It's a neat setting and a decent stadium so the crowds don't get lot like in some of those giant places where state games are played. Been a long time tradition for the Semi-final (use to be East/Western finals) winners crowd to throw Hershey Kisses from the stands all over the field. Kind of a cool feeling to be showered with Kisses when you win to go to Hershey.
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Post by paulsonj72 on Nov 12, 2013 17:34:49 GMT -6
MN- for one last year finals (and semis also) played at the Metrodome after thanksgiving over 2 days . 4 games on Friday and 3 on Saturday. Due to the calender this year there is a two week break between semis and the finals. Next two years finals only move to the U of M and will be played earlier due to the U of M schedule. In 2016 both semis and finals move back indoors at the new Viking stadium.
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Post by holmesbend on Nov 12, 2013 22:13:01 GMT -6
In Kentucky all 6 classes hold Championships at Western Kentucky University's field. Its done over a 2 day span, 3 games on Friday and 3 on Saturday. WKU's stadium is newly renovated and is the minimum size for a D1 school so when 2 teams with good traveling fanbases make it, it really feels full. I personally love it, it used to be held at Louisville's Papa John's Stadium and it felt empty to me. But I'm a WKU Alum so I am biased as it gives me a chance to go back to campus every year! He said it. Only thing to add is that ours are held on the first Fri/Sat of December.
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Post by mrjvi on Nov 13, 2013 5:20:24 GMT -6
New York (other than Long Island and NYC)
Thanksgiving weekend all classes play the finals at the Syracuse University Dome. Each class plays for 3 weeks once the state playoff is reached. 8 teams to 4 to 2.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 13, 2013 7:21:09 GMT -6
A has a 4 round playoff, so DI and DII play last weekend in Nov (29th) I think the times are 3 and 6 PM at Benedict College in Columbia. Benedict is a small HBC.
AA has a 5 round play off, so DI and DII play the first weekend in Dec (6th), again I think the times are 3 and 6, also at Benedict.
Benedict has a turf field and the stadium sits about 10,000 so if the fans travel usually the stand feel full.
AAA has a 5 round play off and plays first weekend in Dec. (7th) at USC in Columbia.
AAAA has a 4 round play off, but since they play 11 regular season games, DI and DII also play the first weekend in December (7th). Their games are also played at USC.
The games at USC usually are 12, 3, and 6. Recently some Clemson alums in the state legislature kicked up a fuss, so now they have a rotation for the bigs to play at both.
Columbia makes the most sense because of geography, nobody is more than 2 hours from the game. However, USC's William Brice is off campus and all the parking is handled by state fair commission (right beside the stadium) and their are always complaints by fans about the access, handling, etc... at this location.
Clemson's Death Valley is on campus and there is plenty of parking right close by and the university handles all the related activities. Problem is that teams from the coast might have to travel 4-5 hours to get there.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 13, 2013 10:58:37 GMT -6
Since we are on the subject... anyone feel that their state has too many state champs?
I may be old school and people have pushed for more classes but I love in PA we only have 4 champs, about 150 schools in each class. Feel like it makes it pretty special to win one here.
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Post by beebe on Nov 13, 2013 11:14:31 GMT -6
Interesting that you bring that up....In Louisiana we recently split public and select (private, magnet, etc)schools for playoff and championship purposes only...we play season and district together then split for playoffs...what this did was take us from 5 champions to 9...5 public and 4 select....EVERY select school then makes playoffs....originally the plan as for two selct groups but all the select coaches complained because we have John Curtis and Evangel in the state and nobody wanted to play them. So 4 divisions of select. Usually the private schools here dominate the championships (last year 4 champs vs. 1 public). Obviously they have many advantages over the public schools, no real attendance zones, peoples poor views on public ed, recruiting etc. Finally the publics got tired and voted to split playoffs, there has been alot of gnashing of teeth and so on, but it is our first year doing this. I see publics going down to 4 classes if this setup continues....just think 9 is way too many...especially for a smaller state like Louisiana. In select schools they rarely have more than 20 per class....that's just too many divisions making the state title too easy to attain (no title is easy to obtain, but still) and cheapens the effect...imo
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Post by fantom on Nov 13, 2013 11:36:52 GMT -6
Since we are on the subject... anyone feel that their state has too many state champs? I may be old school and people have pushed for more classes but I love in PA we only have 4 champs, about 150 schools in each class. Feel like it makes it pretty special to win one here. First of all, Beebe's post reminds me that I only mentioned the public school playoffs when I wrote about Virginia. Here private schools compete in a completely separate association from public schools so when I'm writing about playoffs I'm only writing about public school playoffs. Frankly, I have only the vaguest idea about how the private school playoffs work. This year our playoff format has changed. We've had six classifications for years but this year they've reshuffled the classifications and standardized (mostly) playoff formats. A lot of people are complaining that they've watered down the playoffs. Each classification is divided into two regions, with 16 teams from each region making the playoffs. So, 32 teams per classification x 6 classification means that 192 teams, over half of the schools in the state, make the playoffs. I've read that there are 27 teams in the playoffs with losing records (including one 1-9 team) and thirty more who are right at 5-5. That means that 30% of the teams in the playoffs have .500 records or worse. On the other hand, under the old system frequently good teams were left out. One team had been left out with a 9-1 record twice in three years. So the debate is whether it's better to leave out some really good teams or allow some pretty bad teams in.
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Post by spos21ram on Nov 13, 2013 12:01:00 GMT -6
Since we are on the subject... anyone feel that their state has too many state champs? I may be old school and people have pushed for more classes but I love in PA we only have 4 champs, about 150 schools in each class. Feel like it makes it pretty special to win one here. In Rhode Island we have 4 classes, but they are looking to eliminate one. Right now it's broken up like this: Division I - 9 teams (4 make the playoffs) Division II - 16 teams total - Broken up into 2 sub divisions each have 8 teams. (4 from each make the playoffs - 8 total - 1 champion) Division III - 10 teams (4 make the playoffs) Division IV - 8 teams (4 make the playoffs) Next year or the year after it looks like our DI will be the same as DII with 16 teams and DIV will be eliminated. Private and Public schools are intermingled. D1 state champ is usually a private school. This year a public school has a very good shot though.
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Post by pvogel on Nov 13, 2013 12:02:44 GMT -6
California is split into like 9 or 10 sections with their own rules. Most have a neutral site championship but some give the higher seed home field advantage. But then 5 games are played in 2 days for the State Championships at the Home Depot center (Soccer stadium) in Orange County. Good venue. Its California, so it doesnt really get rockin like it does for the Chivas games but its the right size. The state has too many sections. And some sections have too many divisions. A section championship does feel watered down a tad. Still a big accomplishment though. So many dang schools.
Im new to WV so I forget how its done on days but the State Championship for all 3 divisions is in Wheeling. If you check out a map of WV, its way up in the northern panhandle. Nowhere near convenient. But hey, theres casinos there so I don't see it moving anytime soon. As an aside, WV has probably the best state championship system ive seen. Perfect amount of divisions, great playoff entry system.
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Post by cqmiller on Nov 13, 2013 12:12:36 GMT -6
UT...
Top 3 Divisions play at Rice-Eccles Stadium (Home Field of Utah) next weekend. Semi's are this weekend. Bottom 3 Divisions play at a venue centralized to their locations. (SUU or Dixie State)
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Post by hollyhood27 on Nov 13, 2013 12:43:14 GMT -6
Florida has 8 classes. 1A-4A only have a total of 4 playoff games (that is including State Championship game) and 5A-8A have 5.
All classifications play at the Citrus bowl but the weekends are split up by small and large classifications (small is 12/6 and 12/7 while large is 12/13 and 12/14).
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Post by mattharris75 on Nov 14, 2013 15:20:46 GMT -6
Alabama rotates between Jordan-Hare in Auburn and Bryant-Denny in Tuscaloosa. 6 Classifications, 3 games on a Thursday and 3 on a Friday. www.super6al.com/
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Post by coachsmi0901 on Nov 16, 2013 14:27:20 GMT -6
Arkansas:
We have 7 classifications . . . Kind of.
Recently, AAA made shook up the way 6A/7A was split, and now 6A/7A are combined technically and every team makes the playoffs.
Our finals are held the first weekend of December at War Memorial Stadium in Little Rock.
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Post by coachkoenig on Nov 17, 2013 9:14:13 GMT -6
Maryland is divided into 4 classifications based on student population. All championship games played over 3 days at Ravens Stadium (Th, F, Sa) 4 weeks after the regular season ends.
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Post by agjarrell on Nov 17, 2013 15:00:25 GMT -6
If I remember correct, All the Texas Finals will be held at Jerryworld. 1A-5A both division I and division II over three days in late December
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Post by resdeal on Nov 17, 2013 15:42:50 GMT -6
In Kansas the two 8 man divisions play their State championship games the Saturday before Thanksgiving at the same location. One of the NAIA schools in the center of the state. The five 11 man divisions play their championship the Saturday after thanksgiving. They are all played at different sites. Non of which are the two largest stadiums in the state, K-state or KU. 3 of them are at D2 stadiums, one at a large HS stadium and one at a CC stadium.
I guess if they are going to play them at different sites, it doesn't make since to play in a 50K+ stadium.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 17, 2013 21:29:15 GMT -6
I am sure at one time I knew the answer but...What or how are the classes in Texas split into the Division I/II structure?
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