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Post by Yash on Feb 24, 2013 11:35:30 GMT -6
We don't stretch. We start off practice with individual time. First 5 minutes are footwork drills (running bags, back pedal, W Drill) things you would already do that warm up the body and loosen up the muscles. No muscle pulls or non-stretching related injuries last year. I found that on teams where we did "warm up" or stretching lines it started off practice slow and monotonous. Not all of the coaches were involved. The way we do it now, kids are waiting by their group for the start whistle and we get after it from the start. Coaches know that they have to get them loosened up before any hitting. Saves us 5-10 minutes a practice (which is 30 minutes a week, Times by 9 = 4.5 hours a regular season. Trainer signed off on it saying that as long as they have a warm up there is no problem with it. Kids love it, coaches love it, really sets the tone for practice. Coach, Do you do anything collectively to start practice as a group or does practice start during Indy? Practice starts at 3:15. Special teams coach usually has them out there early (20 min or so) working on snapping, kicking, catching kicks. Sometimes the line coach will show them some things if he saw something on film from the day before, but we do not have a regular, organized pre practice.
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Post by Coach Bennett on Feb 24, 2013 15:12:37 GMT -6
Coach, Do you lift after practice then? We did last year but found the kids were too worn out from practice to get a good lift. this year we will lift short and intense before practice Coach, Couldn't you make the same argument about hamstrings getting tired and strained before they're called upon to stabilize in practice that you made regarding doing neck exercises before practice?
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 24, 2013 15:22:45 GMT -6
We did last year but found the kids were too worn out from practice to get a good lift. this year we will lift short and intense before practice Coach, Couldn't you make the same argument about hamstrings getting tired and strained before they're called upon to stabilize in practice that you made regarding doing neck exercises before practice? Yes you could and I see your point that why i prefer short and intense... Get a good workout but not as much time under tension which is what increases the likely hood of soreness and pulls
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Post by blb on Feb 24, 2013 15:27:52 GMT -6
If you believe HS kids still need Flexibility Training ("Static Stretching") you need to find some time to do it during the week In-Season.
If not, don't.
It's not necessarily about Pre-Practice Warm-Up.
Interestingly almost every team we play I've observed does "Static Stretching" (Flexibility exercises) for their mandatory half time Warm-Up.
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Post by rosi on Feb 25, 2013 3:48:09 GMT -6
Last studies and my personal practice from other sports: - dynamic stretching before practice - static stretching after pratice
Dynamic - nice article for that is book Complete Conditioning for Football (new version from Pat Ivey and Josh Stoner)
Static - I recommend our players Suzuki systems. All body take from 15-25min. They can stretch and watch TV together in evening.
Specific but very good too is Scott SonnonĀ“s warm-up from his TacFit Commando program...
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 25, 2013 4:35:55 GMT -6
We take about 5 minutes....if that. We do dynamic in position group. One line across so everyone in the group goes together maybe two line if its a bigger group of guys like OL for example. All coaches are doing the same drills. I have it typed out on the practice plan. They are as follows: Lunge/hammy ankle grabs straight leg march over the fence/under the fence high knees butt kicks carioca then it is off to a quick team period before special teams work.
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Post by jlenwood on Feb 25, 2013 7:08:56 GMT -6
We started something last year that worked great for us. We start practice with a jog around the practice field, then we have split the kids into 5 groups with a captain or senior leading each group. They stay in that group all season, so we can keep an eye on who is loafing in each group and then kind of put a foot up the backside of that groups captain if needed.
After the jog, we have a coach in each corner of the field as well as one in the middle of the field, the groups start at a station and do the drill for that station. We mix it up each day. For example, Monday may be form tackle, Tuesday turnover and so on. After 2 minutes the whistle blows and the sprint to the next station.
The whole thing only takes 10-12 minutes, the kids get a good sweat going, the captains have to make sure their group is getting the work done or THEY get chewed, and we don't spend a bunch of time like others on here have said happens....talking about chicks or griping about teachers.
We had no pulled muscle issues last season, no major injuries, no issues related to stretching or not stretching at all. We also condense this and use it for our pre-game.
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Post by jrfalcon on Feb 27, 2013 22:53:28 GMT -6
Too much static stretching will actually harm you. The question becomes how much is too much? No perfect answer there. All muscles need to be warmed up before stretching them out. Lap, Ropes, agility something for a short period of time 2-3 minutes followed by a short static stretch period followed by a dynamic stretch segment in my mind is the best option. We run a lap, short static stretch segment followed by some dynamic stretches and agilities. It works really well for us and allows what others have mentioned with talking to the kids about the day in school and what is to come at practice as well. We can get all of this done in about 10-12 minutes or so.
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 27, 2013 23:02:01 GMT -6
oh my god
I am now the "strength coach" of our track team... Im making all my guys run track and lift with me
Im essentially using the track coach to make our kids faster and he is a good track coach, he knows sprinting
but oh my god the warm up we do is unbearable
It takes like a solid half an hour from beginning to end and I just sit there and watch it while I am taking attendance...
I try to step on his toes as little as possible but it is amazing... they all run an 800 to warm up... sit in a circle static stretch forever, then go through a long dynamic warm up and when I am on the field watching it I feel like I might die before it ever ends
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