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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 8:08:04 GMT -6
Huey's point goes along with what I added at the end of my post about there being a lot of variables. My belief is that a less talented team may have to outscheme opponents more. However, if they can't handle that mentally, then I can't really add more wrinkles or scheme, either.
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Post by blb on Jan 5, 2013 8:37:35 GMT -6
if your small and your running back is weak how well will a power running game work? One reason why we have never used a "power running game." Some years you have to coach your fanny off just to keep from getting killed.
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Post by davishfc on Jan 5, 2013 9:24:01 GMT -6
Some years you have to coach your fanny off just to keep from getting killed. Have you ever felt like you had to do that with your option QB? Or has a knack coupled with coaching and extensive reps always prepared those kids for your offense?
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Post by davishfc on Jan 5, 2013 9:26:48 GMT -6
Huey's point goes along with what I added at the end of my post about there being a lot of variables. My belief is that a less talented team may have to outscheme opponents more. However, if they can't handle that mentally, then I can't really add more wrinkles or scheme, either. There is always a more complex answer which involves a number of different facts. This why I don't know why we bother with polls on this forum. So much more quality discussion comes out in the thread that will help someone make a more informed decision. The poll just tends to be a distraction especially if people just vote and move on.
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Post by davishfc on Jan 5, 2013 9:29:22 GMT -6
if your small and your running back is weak how well will a power running game work? One reason why we have never used a "power running game." I have always thought the Option was the closest thing to an equalizer which is why we used more of those elements at my last stop. Granted they were double options not triple like you. But the point was to have to block one less defender.
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Post by blb on Jan 5, 2013 9:48:34 GMT -6
Have you ever felt like you had to do that with your option QB? Or has a knack coupled with coaching and extensive reps always prepared those kids for your offense? I'm not sure what you're asking, Coach, but - We do not always get the ideal "type" for every position Offensively or Defensively. But we're not going to change schemes because of that. Doing so would waste the reps-learning kids got at lower levels. So we just play the best we've got at each spot, including QB. We do feel that simply doing what we do over and over beginning in 9th Grade even an average athlete can become adequate at least. The thousands of repetitions will make them competent at the Veer stuff. For example, last fall we lost our third-year, All-everything QB for three games. His backup (all 5-10, 137 of him) played hardly at all as a Freshman. As a Sophomore he was mostly known for fumbling snaps and simple hand offs, under throwing the Pop Pass, and "Panic" pitching on the option. Yet we won all three games he started, scoring 35, 43, and 42 points. He threw a TD pass in each, ran 21 times for 58 yards (including couple sacks) and a TD.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 5, 2013 10:09:25 GMT -6
I agree Huey good post. Now what do you do to find what you're good at? May sound like a stupid question, but hear me out. In practice, you may look like a world beater running power with your good RB, however when put in game situations things fall apart b/c your opponent is that much better than you. This is t like drag racing where you can take a test run, tune, run again, tune etc. in football, by that time you might be 0-4. As far as what I was asking, it wasn't about THE scheme so much as was it do you teach the basics as best you can & line up & play, or do you do some more exotic things in your playbook to hide your deficiency (I'm thinking smoke-n-mirrors here)? Duece What do you do when you suck awful? you take your ass-kickin and move on. coach the heck out of your kids on fundamentals. coach the heck out of your kids on your offense. just like every year, you call plays, run those things that your team is best at. they may still suck awful at them (your power example) but if that's the best you got, you run it because, well, it's the best you got. at some point, the coaching, the practice, the talent turns over - you may not suck forever. the sophomores may be on a better team when they're seniors because a) they get better and b) the classes below them may not suck so bad. sometimes, well, you just suck... but the game is still about playing to your strengths and getting the ball to your best ones. even if your best ones are the most sheet-rotten-awful players on the planet --- one of them is your best so feed him. you're asking a philosophical question almost. yes, i think you should use smoke-and-mirrors ... but, then again, i think you should always use smoke-and-mirrors. should you use exotic schemes? yes, if the mentality of your players & their mental capacity will allow it (see my previous post) - if not, then no..stay grounded. i've been 0-10.. was the worst year ever. we had a ton of injuries. a whopping 25 players missed at least one full game that year. had a lot of seniors that had never been varsity contributors. the juniors weren't special and really weren't ready to be varsity starters. throw that on top of they were just sheet-rotten-awful to begin with and you end up losing 4 games in OT, 3 others by combine 11 points, and the other 3, well, we weren't in those. what did we do? the same overall scheme we did the year before where we were .500. play types were different. run/pass was different. used more of this than we do now, less of that, etc. when i got here, we were bad 2-18. we started running this thing. we knew we sucked but we knew that "this is what we know, what we can teach, etc." the overall foundation was there. it looked very similar to what we're doing now. not as much - we do more things now - but the basis of who we are can be seen. we did a few more things in the screen game back then and less in the QB run game... more to cater to what we had at the time. so, i would just say, do what you feel is in your best interests. don't give up on 2014 just because your 2013 team is awful. there will be other seasons, sometimes you gotta pay the piper, so to speak. cater your play calls to your kids. feed the best ones. live with the results and realize that it can't last forever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 12:26:30 GMT -6
I agree Huey good post. Now what do you do to find what you're good at? May sound like a stupid question, but hear me out. In practice, you may look like a world beater running power with your good RB, however when put in game situations things fall apart b/c your opponent is that much better than you. This is t like drag racing where you can take a test run, tune, run again, tune etc. in football, by that time you might be 0-4. As far as what I was asking, it wasn't about THE scheme so much as was it do you teach the basics as best you can & line up & play, or do you do some more exotic things in your playbook to hide your deficiency (I'm thinking smoke-n-mirrors here)? Duece What do you do when you suck awful? you take your ass-kickin and move on. coach the heck out of your kids on fundamentals. coach the heck out of your kids on your offense. just like every year, you call plays, run those things that your team is best at. they may still suck awful at them (your power example) but if that's the best you got, you run it because, well, it's the best you got. at some point, the coaching, the practice, the talent turns over - you may not suck forever. the sophomores may be on a better team when they're seniors because a) they get better and b) the classes below them may not suck so bad. sometimes, well, you just suck... but the game is still about playing to your strengths and getting the ball to your best ones. even if your best ones are the most sheet-rotten-awful players on the planet --- one of them is your best so feed him. you're asking a philosophical question almost. yes, i think you should use smoke-and-mirrors ... but, then again, i think you should always use smoke-and-mirrors. should you use exotic schemes? yes, if the mentality of your players & their mental capacity will allow it (see my previous post) - if not, then no..stay grounded. i've been 0-10.. was the worst year ever. we had a ton of injuries. a whopping 25 players missed at least one full game that year. had a lot of seniors that had never been varsity contributors. the juniors weren't special and really weren't ready to be varsity starters. throw that on top of they were just sheet-rotten-awful to begin with and you end up losing 4 games in OT, 3 others by combine 11 points, and the other 3, well, we weren't in those. what did we do? the same overall scheme we did the year before where we were .500. play types were different. run/pass was different. used more of this than we do now, less of that, etc. when i got here, we were bad 2-18. we started running this thing. we knew we sucked but we knew that "this is what we know, what we can teach, etc." the overall foundation was there. it looked very similar to what we're doing now. not as much - we do more things now - but the basis of who we are can be seen. we did a few more things in the screen game back then and less in the QB run game... more to cater to what we had at the time. so, i would just say, do what you feel is in your best interests. don't give up on 2014 just because your 2013 team is awful. there will be other seasons, sometimes you gotta pay the piper, so to speak. cater your play calls to your kids. feed the best ones. live with the results and realize that it can't last forever. I'm broke and the Piper wants more money... Good post, and yes my question was MEANT to be philosophical. I think it's our job to put our kids in the best position possible to be successful, but you're right, there comes a point at which you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh!t. Or is there? Look at JT Curtis, I mean, most of what I've seen of that school, they are very average, yet they win. I think the mark of a good coach is winning when you DON'T have talent. So if that's the mark of a good coach, then how do you win with no talent? I guess that's the age old question here....right? Duece
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Post by davishfc on Jan 5, 2013 12:43:23 GMT -6
I'm not sure what you're asking, Coach, but - After looking at what I quoted, it's no wonder. Sorry Coach. It made sense at the time but at second glance I see why you might have been confused. But you did answer my question. I believe you meant coaching your a$$ off for the entire team to keep from getting killed. I isolated that mentality to the QB position in an option offense. You answered it. Thanks. We do not always get the ideal "type" for every position Offensively or Defensively. But we're not going to change schemes because of that. Doing so would waste the reps-learning kids got at lower levels. This is how I feel and why I plan to continue with the schemes that we've been running. I'm glad that my belief is reinforced by someone whom I respect and who has been highly successful. So we just play the best we've got at each spot, including QB. We do feel that simply doing what we do over and over beginning in 9th Grade even an average athlete can become adequate at least. The thousands of repetitions will make them competent at the Veer stuff. That's all we can do. Put the best we have at each spot and help them reach their full potential at that spot so the team can be successful. For example, last fall we lost our third-year, All-everything QB for three games. His backup (all 5-10, 137 of him) played hardly at all as a Freshman. As a Sophomore he was mostly known for fumbling snaps and simple hand offs, under throwing the Pop Pass, and "Panic" pitching on the option. Yet we won all three games he started, scoring 35, 43, and 42 points. He threw a TD pass in each, ran 21 times for 58 yards (including couple sacks) and a TD. That's awesome! Great story. Good for that kid. Nice work Coach.
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Post by davishfc on Jan 5, 2013 13:13:06 GMT -6
What do you do when you suck awful? you take your ass-kickin and move on. coach the heck out of your kids on fundamentals. coach the heck out of your kids on your offense. just like every year, you call plays, run those things that your team is best at. they may still suck awful at them (your power example) but if that's the best you got, you run it because, well, it's the best you got. at some point, the coaching, the practice, the talent turns over - you may not suck forever. the sophomores may be on a better team when they're seniors because a) they get better and b) the classes below them may not suck so bad. sometimes, well, you just suck... but the game is still about playing to your strengths and getting the ball to your best ones. even if your best ones are the most sheet-rotten-awful players on the planet --- one of them is your best so feed him. you're asking a philosophical question almost. yes, i think you should use smoke-and-mirrors ... but, then again, i think you should always use smoke-and-mirrors. should you use exotic schemes? yes, if the mentality of your players & their mental capacity will allow it (see my previous post) - if not, then no..stay grounded. i've been 0-10.. was the worst year ever. we had a ton of injuries. a whopping 25 players missed at least one full game that year. had a lot of seniors that had never been varsity contributors. the juniors weren't special and really weren't ready to be varsity starters. throw that on top of they were just sheet-rotten-awful to begin with and you end up losing 4 games in OT, 3 others by combine 11 points, and the other 3, well, we weren't in those. what did we do? the same overall scheme we did the year before where we were .500. play types were different. run/pass was different. used more of this than we do now, less of that, etc. when i got here, we were bad 2-18. we started running this thing. we knew we sucked but we knew that "this is what we know, what we can teach, etc." the overall foundation was there. it looked very similar to what we're doing now. not as much - we do more things now - but the basis of who we are can be seen. we did a few more things in the screen game back then and less in the QB run game... more to cater to what we had at the time. so, i would just say, do what you feel is in your best interests. don't give up on 2014 just because your 2013 team is awful. there will be other seasons, sometimes you gotta pay the piper, so to speak. cater your play calls to your kids. feed the best ones. live with the results and realize that it can't last forever. Where was this post after my first year as a head coach in 2007 when we went 0-9? Or my second year when we went 1-7. It would've helped a ton to keep things in perspective. I mean I did and we ended up turning the corner but this would've reaffirmed what I already believed. Outstanding Coach. Put this in the articles section under "What To Do When Your..." How did you say it? Oh yeah. Sheet-rotten-awful...LOL! "What To Do When Your Sheet-Rotten-Awful..."Hilarious title! But seriously though, this is a message a lot of coaches in a challenging situation would benefit from hearing. I can speak from experience when I say this would have helped me during my first two seasons when we went a combined 1-16. Huey, the following was a great way to conclude the post... there will be other seasons, sometimes you gotta pay the piper, so to speak. cater your play calls to your kids. feed the best ones. live with the results and realize that it can't last forever.Bottom line... ALL YOU CAN DO IS ALL YOU CAN DO.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 5, 2013 13:59:33 GMT -6
how do you win with no talent? all i can add to that is year in and year out, teach teach teach, rep rep rep fundamentals. train to be good football players, rather than "talented athletes". my current school has few 'athletes' but we've trained them to be pretty good football players. they play with relentless effort, great technique, can block, tackle, take angles, etc. we have several sayings around here - and they apply whether you're good or bad... "do what we do" "focus on us" "embrace the process" "play the next play" this year we were supposed to suck - predicted to finish 2nd to last in league, win maybe 3 games if lucky. we worried about us, coached the heck out of fundamentals, played poorly in the first game and lost. didn't panic, didn't change what we did (although we had some lengthy discussions that following saturday, lol) and tried to find 1 or 2 things our kids could execute. we found a couple of schemes our OL could block, some reads our qb could make, some routes our guys could run. we spent the next month doing nothing but getting better at blocking, reading the zones, running those few routes ... then, we slowly added some things - wrinkles like shifts, new formations, an additional way to get into the same basic scheme. our kids got better - a lot better... and next thing you know we've won our league and advanced to the sweet 16. honestly, alot of it was luck ... or the fact that our qb was very underrated early on and he really is a freakin' beast of a player in our schemes... we rode his back to double digit wins. but, the point was, we didn't know that going in. we just focused on doing what we do, the process, getting better every day, etc. as our qb evolved, so did the rest of the team. they still weren't talented athletes, but they turned out to be pretty good high school football players. none will play another down, but they didn't look outside our box - focus on us, do what WE do, etc. each year is its own animal, really ... 2 years ago we had all kinds of talent, blew holes in our foot all season before managing to get in the playoffs and go on a run to the regionals. we did the same stuff, just for whatever reason, it didn't click as early as this year. i'm a firm believer in finding your identity. you have to find each year, it doesn't just carry over. find what that set of kids can do - and cater to that. i'm not saying change offenses .. just saying that sometimes iz, oz, read the de, read the lb, mix in a lead & draw is really all you need - that's what they execute the best - it is your identify. the next year, maybe don't block the zone as well, but really good at screens & draws - that becomes your identity... the sooner you find your identity, the sooner you can just start repping the heck out of those thing. so, long ramble... focus on your players it's about tackling, blocking, stance, start, etc... the most basic of fundamentals train football players, don't worry about what the stat sheet says pray you get lucky - because let's be honest, every game we win isn't because we were better or we out coached someone & same thing when we lose.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 14:12:44 GMT -6
how do you win with no talent? all i can add to that is year in and year out, teach teach teach, rep rep rep fundamentals. train to be good football players, rather than "talented athletes". my current school has few 'athletes' but we've trained them to be pretty good football players. they play with relentless effort, great technique, can block, tackle, take angles, etc. we have several sayings around here - and they apply whether you're good or bad... "do what we do" "focus on us" "embrace the process" "play the next play" this year we were supposed to suck - predicted to finish 2nd to last in league, win maybe 3 games if lucky. we worried about us, coached the heck out of fundamentals, played poorly in the first game and lost. didn't panic, didn't change what we did (although we had some lengthy discussions that following saturday, lol) and tried to find 1 or 2 things our kids could execute. we found a couple of schemes our OL could block, some reads our qb could make, some routes our guys could run. we spent the next month doing nothing but getting better at blocking, reading the zones, running those few routes ... then, we slowly added some things - wrinkles like shifts, new formations, an additional way to get into the same basic scheme. our kids got better - a lot better... and next thing you know we've won our league and advanced to the sweet 16. honestly, alot of it was luck ... or the fact that our qb was very underrated early on and he really is a freakin' beast of a player in our schemes... we rode his back to double digit wins. but, the point was, we didn't know that going in. we just focused on doing what we do, the process, getting better every day, etc. as our qb evolved, so did the rest of the team. they still weren't talented athletes, but they turned out to be pretty good high school football players. none will play another down, but they didn't look outside our box - focus on us, do what WE do, etc. each year is its own animal, really ... 2 years ago we had all kinds of talent, blew holes in our foot all season before managing to get in the playoffs and go on a run to the regionals. we did the same stuff, just for whatever reason, it didn't click as early as this year. i'm a firm believer in finding your identity. you have to find each year, it doesn't just carry over. find what that set of kids can do - and cater to that. i'm not saying change offenses .. just saying that sometimes iz, oz, read the de, read the lb, mix in a lead & draw is really all you need - that's what they execute the best - it is your identify. the next year, maybe don't block the zone as well, but really good at screens & draws - that becomes your identity... the sooner you find your identity, the sooner you can just start repping the heck out of those thing. so, long ramble... focus on your players it's about tackling, blocking, stance, start, etc... the most basic of fundamentals train football players, don't worry about what the stat sheet says pray you get lucky - because let's be honest, every game we win isn't because we were better or we out coached someone & same thing when we lose. First class post coach, and point taken... Duece
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Post by dubber on Jan 5, 2013 14:46:34 GMT -6
BIG PICTURE
If we suck (which, because of a sound weight room program, we have only had 3 losings season since 93'), then we are playing younger kids.
I played on one of those sub .500 teams, and coached on another.
In both situations, we didn't alter what we did, we just focused on the same things that made us really good in previous years and took our lumps.........because the preceeding years will yield the fruit of those payments.
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Post by davishfc on Jan 5, 2013 15:13:24 GMT -6
how do you win with no talent? all i can add to that is year in and year out, teach teach teach, rep rep rep fundamentals. train to be good football players, rather than "talented athletes". my current school has few 'athletes' but we've trained them to be pretty good football players. they play with relentless effort, great technique, can block, tackle, take angles, etc. we have several sayings around here - and they apply whether you're good or bad... "do what we do" "focus on us" "embrace the process" "play the next play" this year we were supposed to suck - predicted to finish 2nd to last in league, win maybe 3 games if lucky. we worried about us, coached the heck out of fundamentals, played poorly in the first game and lost. didn't panic, didn't change what we did (although we had some lengthy discussions that following saturday, lol) and tried to find 1 or 2 things our kids could execute. we found a couple of schemes our OL could block, some reads our qb could make, some routes our guys could run. we spent the next month doing nothing but getting better at blocking, reading the zones, running those few routes ... then, we slowly added some things - wrinkles like shifts, new formations, an additional way to get into the same basic scheme. our kids got better - a lot better... and next thing you know we've won our league and advanced to the sweet 16. honestly, alot of it was luck ... or the fact that our qb was very underrated early on and he really is a freakin' beast of a player in our schemes... we rode his back to double digit wins. but, the point was, we didn't know that going in. we just focused on doing what we do, the process, getting better every day, etc. as our qb evolved, so did the rest of the team. they still weren't talented athletes, but they turned out to be pretty good high school football players. none will play another down, but they didn't look outside our box - focus on us, do what WE do, etc. each year is its own animal, really ... 2 years ago we had all kinds of talent, blew holes in our foot all season before managing to get in the playoffs and go on a run to the regionals. we did the same stuff, just for whatever reason, it didn't click as early as this year. i'm a firm believer in finding your identity. you have to find each year, it doesn't just carry over. find what that set of kids can do - and cater to that. i'm not saying change offenses .. just saying that sometimes iz, oz, read the de, read the lb, mix in a lead & draw is really all you need - that's what they execute the best - it is your identify. the next year, maybe don't block the zone as well, but really good at screens & draws - that becomes your identity... the sooner you find your identity, the sooner you can just start repping the heck out of those thing. so, long ramble... focus on your players it's about tackling, blocking, stance, start, etc... the most basic of fundamentals train football players, don't worry about what the stat sheet says pray you get lucky - because let's be honest, every game we win isn't because we were better or we out coached someone & same thing when we lose. Well played Huey. Well played.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 5, 2013 15:23:42 GMT -6
Look at JT Curtis, I mean, most of what I've seen of that school, they are very average, yet they win. Not necessarily pertinent to this discussion, but for your general background and future thought process.. this is not a true statement. According to rivals.com the 2012 curtis team has six seniors are committed to FBS-level programs, two have offers, six players in the Class of 2014 have offers. The total high school enrollment is about 300ish kids (co ed). So lets say the enrollment is 66% boys.. (probably high, but possible) this means out of 200 boys 14 have offers to play Division I football. While on the high side, that is not terribly atypical for Curtis.
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Post by blb on Jan 5, 2013 16:00:35 GMT -6
focus on your players it's about tackling, blocking, stance, start, etc... the most basic of fundamentals train football players, don't worry about what the stat sheet says pray you get lucky - because let's be honest, every game we win isn't because we were better or we out coached someone & same thing when we lose. What he said. And - the best coaches don't always win.
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Post by kylem56 on Jan 6, 2013 20:07:03 GMT -6
theres a couple good books you can read as well (yes I know they are college coaches with D1 athletes) that gave me a shot in the arm when teams I coached weren't going as well as planned.
Don't Flinch by Barry Alavarez
They Said It Couldn't Be Done by Bill Snyder
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Post by coachking8 on Jan 7, 2013 15:07:21 GMT -6
I'm interested to hear what the turbo-no-huddle guys would do in the scenario. 3 and out is the kiss of death with that style, so would you stick with the up tempo scheme and count on it to get you plays you might not otherwise? Or, as others have mentioned, is it time to put it on the shelf for a clock-chewing offensive scheme? I was at the Washington State vs. Arizona State game this season and Wazzu stayed in no-huddle mode the entire game and it got downright U. G. L. Y. They just didn't have the personnel to do it this year. But, I think on the collegiate level it makes more sense to build your program like that because you can choose (for the most part) the kids you bring in. At the high school level I think you have to think differently. Here's how I see it. The school I was at the last four years was BOTH the overwhelming powerhouse AND the overmatched team. We were the new, big football school in the worst football playing district in the state of Arizona (three teams in the district went 0-10 this season). We would beat our district schools with our JVs in most of those games. I always felt that we could run the same three to five plays over and over and have the same result. More talent = you have to do way less schematically. When we played out of district teams, however, it was a very different story. We still ran the same 3-5 plays over and over and we usually found ourselves at a competitive disadvantage that (I felt) could have been minimized if we opened the playbook up. Our lack of a more complicated scheme, for the most part, kept us from being more competitive when the talent on the other side was equal or greater to ours. So, I have to say I agree with what some of the other posters have said. When you have great talent, keep it simple, make sure your playmakers touch the ball as often as possible and play within a scheme that is going to minimize mistakes and the chance of as upset. When the talent is equal or greater, make sure you're scheming your tail off to get the most of your possible advantages. My two cents...
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Post by wvcoach on Jan 7, 2013 21:26:51 GMT -6
I'm afraid we're about to step into this situation, so thanks a million for this thread gents.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 4:50:36 GMT -6
I'm afraid we're about to step into this situation, so thanks a million for this thread gents. Good luck coach! Duece
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Post by jpdaley25 on Jan 9, 2013 21:33:38 GMT -6
A less talented player must be more highly trained and must have more experience - this requires more time and more reps. You can go pretty far with perfect technique.
A less talented player can be more physical than his opponent - This must be required of them every day in practice so that it's a habit.
A less talented player can play smarter - this requires that they become students of the game.
A less talented player can be stronger and in better shape than his opponent - this requires a commitment to the weight room, good eating habits, speed training, and conditioning in the off-season.
A less talented player can be more dedicated and outwork his opponent - This requires that the player be motivated and taught how to improve on his own throughout the year.
A coach with untalented players can build a degree of success using these principles.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 9:44:18 GMT -6
The problem with less talented players from less talented teams that are well coached is when they face a more talented player from a more talented team that is also well coached. That happens sometimes also.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 10, 2013 9:58:51 GMT -6
Fill it with cups as best you can.
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Post by coachdawhip on Jan 13, 2013 7:44:37 GMT -6
I'm interested to hear what the turbo-no-huddle guys would do in the scenario. 3 and out is the kiss of death with that style, so would you stick with the up tempo scheme and count on it to get you plays you might not otherwise? Or, as others have mentioned, is it time to put it on the shelf for a clock-chewing offensive scheme? If the talent isn't great you don't change the offense but you do slow down the game.
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Post by jpdaley25 on Jan 19, 2013 16:50:44 GMT -6
"The problem with less talented players from less talented teams that are well coached is when they face a more talented player from a more talented team that is also well coached. That happens sometimes also."
Very true....This is the bane of my existance...lol.
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Post by fballcoachg on Jan 19, 2013 18:42:52 GMT -6
I'm interested to hear what the turbo-no-huddle guys would do in the scenario. 3 and out is the kiss of death with that style, so would you stick with the up tempo scheme and count on it to get you plays you might not otherwise? Or, as others have mentioned, is it time to put it on the shelf for a clock-chewing offensive scheme? If the talent isn't great you don't change the offense but you do slow down the game. Agree completely, you don't change your offense but you change how early you snap the ball. You go as high percentage in your pass game as you can and do what everyone else said, coach your a$$ off, run your best stuff even if it isn't that good, and find a way not to go insane (redefine success for that group of kids).
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Post by coachweav88 on Jan 19, 2013 22:59:40 GMT -6
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Post by davishfc on Jan 20, 2013 20:25:23 GMT -6
Outstanding picture coachweav88.
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