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Post by airraider on May 5, 2012 19:25:46 GMT -6
We had a girl one spring... we were heading off to the spring game and one of my assistants was handing out jerseys... we get on the bus and this girl was in #69... I immediately made her switch jerseys with someone.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on May 5, 2012 20:09:21 GMT -6
In all my years, I've seen 1 girl kicker in a real game, she was the starter and was very good. But that's the only 1 I've ever personally witnessed. She was also in on tackles on the kickoff, which is fine with me, since she's on the field. A few years ago, one of the best athletes in our school was a girl volleyball player. I think she was 6'2 or 6'3" and very strong. Bigger than most of my guys but not stronger than they were. There's a difference. Anyway, I wanted her to kick for us, but she couldn't because volleyball conflicted and that's where he went D1. Amazing young lady, and super brainy, she would have been a great asset to us. But, I'll never know. The only other story that I know personally happened in our county in 2004 at the same time I started this small school program. A large public tech school let two girls come out and make the team. The coaches did their best to protect them, they were pretty much average size girls from what I know.(not 6'2" 300lb)  From what I was told and from what I read in the local mullet wrapper, one of the girls was matched with a comparable sized boy for a tackling drill. The simple hit, burst her speen and without the help of one the coaches noticing she would have died at practice. She came very close to dying. The staff told me they were freakin' totally out that they would be sued by every lawyer in town. But, luckily, it never happened to them. While this probably had nothing to do with the young lady being a female, she was matched with a similar size boy, and there is USUALLY a big difference in strength and muscle with a 5'7" 160lb boy and a 5'4" 140 lb girl. (that's close to the size I remember, the boy was a little heavier and a little taller) FYI, these girls had never played football before, the boys had been playing since they were 5 years old. Big difference there too. But, this ended the experiment there, as the other girl quit. My problem is not girls on the team, it's girls "on the field" (as I said I wanted a girl kicker). It is the distration that girls cause to crazy teenage boys. While I don't have experience with girls on my team-I DO however has lots of experience with girls in tight clothes "wandering" by practice, "wandering" onto the field during practice, "wandering" by, walking...very, very slowly, as close to the fence as possible wearing as little as possible and what which is worn...as tight as possible. (maybe impossible)  With...me yelling at them to GO AWAY, as loud as possible. OJW |
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Post by coachmoore42 on May 5, 2012 20:11:28 GMT -6
I've seen approximately 8 girls ask to play during my 12 year middle school coaching career. One came to a spring workout (no pads, just conditioning). She snuck off and called her mom to come get her after one rotation...I haven't seen her since.
Two years ago we had one who finally stuck it out. She was an OL/DL. She didn't play much at all, but she was on a really good team (she was a bench warmer, but it wasn't because she couldn't play). It was a blast seeing the wannabes unable to move her. I'm sure one or two cried to their mothers about it.
We have a good situation with the locker room for the "girl-on-team" scenario. The boys' and girls' locker rooms are next to each other, so she just changed with the softball girls. We also had a female assistant coach who handles all of our paperwork (she's our "Paperwork Coordinator", she refuses to assume a coaching role despite our lack of coaches and my incessant begging). She handled any issues that we couldn't, but there weren't many. Once the girl got into her gear for the first time she was good to go.
Bottom line, most just want to see what you'll say. They have little to no intention of actually playing, at least not for long anyway. If you say no, you'll eventually run into someone who sues you. If you say yes, you just might find a player.
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Post by 19delta on May 5, 2012 21:07:26 GMT -6
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Post by newhope on May 7, 2012 7:01:41 GMT -6
Don't make a big deal out of it. Let her come out. Treat her like everyone else. To do anything else is to set yourself up for problems. Usually, they leave quickly. If she doesn't and she can handle the hard work and everything the guys do, then more power to her seh'll probably be an asset to the team.
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Post by John Knight on May 7, 2012 7:17:45 GMT -6
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Post by olcoach53 on May 7, 2012 7:54:56 GMT -6
When the girls always joke and tell me they are going to try out I always point out that we do not hold tryouts, they are more than welcome to come out for the team, they are going to be treated the same as all of the other players, and I need to know for sure because they make shoulder pads for women.
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Post by Chris Clement on May 7, 2012 8:18:54 GMT -6
Would those shoulder pads have more padding to protect the delicate bits or less padding because it's like they have integrated padding built into their bodies?
Why would you turn down even the outside shot that she contributes to your team? Wouldn't you feel like an idiot bitching about your lack of team speed when she turns into Flo-Jo 2.0? The odds are slim, but you can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.
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Post by John Knight on May 7, 2012 8:39:01 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on May 7, 2012 8:56:29 GMT -6
At a buck a week in a million weeks you're set for life. |
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Post by John Knight on May 7, 2012 9:29:16 GMT -6
Exactly! Very few people play $1 a week. If that is all, I say sure. Will you win, no! Could you, yes. If you have that kind of discipline then sure it is worth the $1 But Beware! LOL!!! www.smartmoney.com/invest/stocks/why-lottery-winners-go-bankrupt-1301002181742/The chances of you winning by playing $1 a week are inversely proportional to the number of teeth you have! Same odds of finding a girl that can help win football games. |
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Post by CoachCP on May 8, 2012 6:38:52 GMT -6
I once had to make a reason, on the fly to a parent who was clueless as to why their kid wasn't playing when I was a JV head coach. I told them the honest truth.
"You know, he's brand new to football, and he's struggling to understand some of the basic principles and I just don't want him to get hurt out there because there are some kids who unfortunately target kids like that". Apparently the parent loved that I was looking out for their son, told the AD and the Varsity HC. I'm half surprised that didn't turn into a shitstorm, but in today's day and age of "player safety", I think it holds more grounds.
If the girl is clueless out there, that's your reason. OR... if she's a distraction b/c she's out for the wrong reasons (or anyone is for that matter), run them.
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Post by CoachCP on May 8, 2012 6:53:45 GMT -6
I have coached a girl before come to think of it. I did a youth spring league once... it was quite unique. We had a girl on the team (everyone was 6-7th grade, but b/c of puberty she was bigger and stronger than 90% of the boys), and she would just scream as she went to make a block. She was probably the best fullback I've ever had relative to their level. Again, because at that point she was just bigger and stronger than the boys. She didn't play after that year... and I saw her around the HS when I coached. She lost some of those advantages by that point  |
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Post by coachcb on May 8, 2012 8:52:58 GMT -6
They want to come out, they can come out. No problems with me. I have only experienced this at the youth and middle school level many moons ago and it was always fun. It was great to watch the boys come to accept them as a part of the team. The overprotective nature that followed was awesome.
I'll follow all of the safety guidelines to keep her as safe as possible. But, at the end of the day, a high school girl is at a higher risk for injury in this sport than guys. As has been pointed out, they don't typically carry as much muscle mass and aren't as physically suited for the sport as their male counter-parts.
The way I look at it, you're d-mned if you do, you're d-mned if you don't. Football isn't a cut sport and we can't tell them (or even try to dis-way them) from playing football. Especially in our current age of 'The War On Women'. So, let 'em come out but keep a close eye on them because the chances of them getting rocked and hurt are high.
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