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Post by football247365 on Apr 4, 2012 10:25:49 GMT -6
Just wondering what your opinions are about what are the most overlooked aspects in coaching?
I bring this up to try and address any "bad habits" and to fix them to become more efficient. Essentially "cutting the fat".
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Post by cwaltsmith on Apr 4, 2012 10:53:05 GMT -6
PLAYERS!!!!
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Post by kylem56 on Apr 4, 2012 12:49:48 GMT -6
Drill Organization: meaning don't design your drills so you have a line of kids waiting to take their rep. Mass reps, never more than 2 or 3 to a line. Dennis Creehan's racehorse practice manual has some good ideas in it
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Post by coachbdud on Apr 4, 2012 14:30:57 GMT -6
Just wondering what your opinions are about what are the most overlooked aspects in coaching? I bring this up to try and address any "bad habits" and to fix them to become more efficient. Essentially "cutting the fat". Minimizing transition times, teaching how to set up a drill and how it is run so kids can really roll from drill to drill daily rather than waste half a practice everyday getting them set up. I really believe in establishing protocols and routines.
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Post by drewdawg265 on Apr 4, 2012 14:35:20 GMT -6
Every coach taking pride and accountability in special teams. I have been guilty of not holding myself and staff accountable and it has cost me a few wins in my career. Find away to take the same pride in specials as you do in your offense or defense and you can steal games.
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Post by kylem56 on Apr 4, 2012 14:39:41 GMT -6
Every coach taking pride and accountability in special teams. I have been guilty of not holding myself and staff accountable and it has cost me a few wins in my career. Find away to take the same pride in specials as you do in your offense or defense and you can steal games. I'll add to this one: Take some time to practice Special Teams in Individual and Group periods. Take the time to teach the technique used for blocking on your punt team, blocking in space on punt return etc. Villanova has a great special teams circuit that incorperates how they practice the individual techniques of each unit
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Post by jgordon1 on Apr 4, 2012 16:50:49 GMT -6
I would say making sure your assistants are on the same page and keeping then "in the loop"...IMO having a great staff w/ limited turnover is HUGE in the success of your program
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Post by lochness on Apr 4, 2012 17:06:35 GMT -6
Focusing more on players and less on plays.
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Post by TMGPG on Apr 4, 2012 17:56:08 GMT -6
I would have to go with dawg and say special teams. Too many players look to take that aspect off. As coaches I think it is very important to sell the importance of special teams.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 18:58:49 GMT -6
Placement of players to get the most out of them.
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Post by Coach Huey on Apr 4, 2012 19:41:17 GMT -6
overlooked aspect?
all the things you do when you're not "coaching".... laundry, locker room clean up, painting the field, equipment inventory & repair, etc.
then all the things you do that still aren't "coaching" .... video breakdown, scouting reports, game planning, staff meetings, scripts & schedules, personnel meetings, etc.
and, of course all the things you do before "coaching", like teaching, faculty meetings, parent meetings, booster club meetings, etc.
Then, after all that ... you can overlook special teams, drill work, players, etc.
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Post by bigm0073 on Apr 5, 2012 9:23:56 GMT -6
Attention to detail...
When you listen to some speakers at clinics in the NFL and they go over their position manuals, calls, recognition... It is very detailed... Most college programs have this as well.. Attention to detail no stone left unturned...
I would say in most high school programs in the nation the same can not be said.
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Post by mhs99 on Apr 5, 2012 21:22:57 GMT -6
Great points Huey Blocking and tackling; a must everyday.
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Post by coachfd on Apr 5, 2012 22:00:53 GMT -6
Getting your kids to practice each day like it's game day.
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Post by calkayne on Apr 6, 2012 8:03:25 GMT -6
Most overlooked aspect in Coaching: Relationships
I make sure my homelife is in order as a top priority. I cant go to practice and expect my players to be men if I am not one myself.
The second priority is to make sure that the I am dedicated and invested in all players in my charge. I cannot expect respect unless I have earned it.
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Post by tango on Apr 6, 2012 12:15:43 GMT -6
1. Scout team organization 2. Snap count 3. pursuit angles 4. Body language 5. everything that has been stated above.
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Post by coachbrek on Apr 6, 2012 14:06:26 GMT -6
1. Scout team organization 2. Snap count 3. pursuit angles 4. Body language 5. everything that has been stated above. #4 Body language, I have never heard it come up before, I love it! What do you tell your kids about it and how do you instill and reinforce it in your players. Thanks
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Post by hchscoachtom on Apr 6, 2012 14:12:50 GMT -6
To add to the list of relationships . . . Having a good relationship with the janitors, grounds keeping crew and maintenance department of your school.
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Post by tango on Apr 7, 2012 14:28:27 GMT -6
Body lang. is something that we are coaching very hard this year. Our teams work very hard and body lang. has never been a problem until this year. We are just stressing it big time. We work out at a very high pace and they must jog in the weight room to the next lift or to get water. They must stand tall with out putting their hands on their hips, head, or on any object. If they rub anything or shake their hand or look disgusted or shake their head we are getting on to them. They can't lean over or just act tired. They must be encouraging each other the entire time. We have started grading them on it and they hate it but love it. It is a race to check the score each day. Our SS is a very good player and kid but his body lang. is not very good. It has become a learning experience for me dealing with his since he is having a hard time not just looking lazy. He is trying like crazy to stop putting his hands on his hips but he is at war with himself which is kinda funny. Good for us so far but not for everyone I'm sure.
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Post by fantom on Apr 7, 2012 14:50:09 GMT -6
Body lang. is something that we are coaching very hard this year. Our teams work very hard and body lang. has never been a problem until this year. We are just stressing it big time. We work out at a very high pace and they must jog in the weight room to the next lift or to get water. They must stand tall with out putting their hands on their hips, head, or on any object. If they rub anything or shake their hand or look disgusted or shake their head we are getting on to them. They can't lean over or just act tired. They must be encouraging each other the entire time. We have started grading them on it and they hate it but love it. It is a race to check the score each day. Our SS is a very good player and kid but his body lang. is not very good. It has become a learning experience for me dealing with his since he is having a hard time not just looking lazy. He is trying like crazy to stop putting his hands on his hips but he is at war with himself which is kinda funny. Good for us so far but not for everyone I'm sure. Why is this important?
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Post by Coach.A on Apr 7, 2012 15:27:29 GMT -6
I always thought that hands on hips was a considered dominant and confident body language....wouldn't that the be the image you want to portray to opponents?
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Post by Coach.A on Apr 7, 2012 15:41:15 GMT -6
Fast forward to 3:08. Saban talks about the importance of body language.
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Post by tango on Apr 7, 2012 19:34:16 GMT -6
Hands on hips to me shows that you are tired or lazy and not into encouraging the guy lifting. If you have your hands on your hips and chest poked out like superman I guess that is different. It is important to me because we lost three games last year and all of them were winnable. In two of the games we were really good early but our body lang. later in the games looked like we were tired and not really into the game. This is the example that I gave our guys: if player X is 6.6 and weights 260 lbs. and has a bounce in his step and has the look of confidence coming to the line what is the DL thinking but if he is leaning over with his hands on his hips and dragging his feet coming to the line and lazy getting down in his stance what is the DL thinking. This kid is on our team by the way. Also had a coach that I really respect come work us out one day to get some feedback. When we talked he said your kids work as hard as anyone but your body lang. sucks. IMO it is going to make us better and will not make us worst no matter what.
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Post by fantom on Apr 7, 2012 20:01:54 GMT -6
Hands on hips to me shows that you are tired or lazy and not into encouraging the guy lifting. If you have your hands on your hips and chest poked out like superman I guess that is different. It is important to me because we lost three games last year and all of them were winnable. In two of the games we were really good early but our body lang. later in the games looked like we were tired and not really into the game. This is the example that I gave our guys: if player X is 6.6 and weights 260 lbs. and has a bounce in his step and has the look of confidence coming to the line what is the DL thinking but if he is leaning over with his hands on his hips and dragging his feet coming to the line and lazy getting down in his stance what is the DL thinking. This kid is on our team by the way. Also had a coach that I really respect come work us out one day to get some feedback. When we talked he said your kids work as hard as anyone but your body lang. sucks. IMO it is going to make us better and will not make us worst no matter what. On the field, I agree with you. In the weight room, I don't care what kind of body language they have and doubt that there's a correlation between it and how hard a kid works.
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Post by tango on Apr 8, 2012 5:50:36 GMT -6
Fantom,
We grade body lang., intensity, effort, spotting, and if we break records and think it carries over to everything we do. I know it has helped our kids. If you look at my first post I said I know it will not be for everyone.
Thanks
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Post by coachbrek on Apr 8, 2012 7:44:04 GMT -6
Good stuff guys, I am going to work on and stress body language this year. Thanks!
Like said, I really never heard anyone stress is before let alone even talk about it, but it makes total sense to me, I can really see it being an edge for us. The Sabin video was excellent too.
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Post by tango on Apr 8, 2012 9:39:49 GMT -6
Coachbrek,
This if my 17th season and I can honestly say it has made a huge difference for us. I have followed two coaches over the years that have been very successful and are both retired now. One thought you should walk to the LOS to save energy and they looked lazy pregame and between plays but would just come off the ball and kill people. The other coach thought you should look ready to play at all times and they were something to watch all day every minute. I fall more towards the last guy.
I also posed like some of our players and asked them to tell me who I was posing like. I would just stand like one of them and they named every single person that I posed like. It was funny but I think it is more to this than even I thought.
The guy that came and worked us out is a former assistant coach for me and is now very successful as a head coach. He has been offered very good jobs as SC coach over the years.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 8, 2012 12:50:00 GMT -6
Fast forward to 3:08. Saban talks about the importance of body language. Wow.... Is nick lost in a time loop? ? Mavin Haggler's last pro fight was in 1987, and he was named fighter of the decade for the 80's!!! That's a little different than "out of it for two years now" (Considering he is wearing his Bama Red and this is reportedly a 2007 video) Nick, you gotta get your speeches fact checked before you hit the fundraising circuits! Your buddy joe lipsey lost to Benard Hopkins in 1996.
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Post by jgordon1 on Apr 8, 2012 15:30:33 GMT -6
There is a book called the new toughness traing in sports that talks alot about body language..we used to practice it during sprints
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Post by pvogel on Apr 8, 2012 16:24:24 GMT -6
A desire to grow and learn as a coach... Im preachin to the choir a bit here because people are on here because they want to learn more and get better. It seems like some people think they are ready made or something.
But its sad to see how many coaches dont put any effort into becoming better teachers and coaches. Theyre content with knowing just what they know now and see no need to learn what others do or how they do it. It kills me to see that.
And networking. Its not who you know, its who knows you. Ive seen smart people out of jobs and out of luck because they dont know anyone to help them... And ive seen jo schmoes (myself included) "climb the ladder" relatively quickly because of who they meet and who they associate with.
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