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Post by brophy on Apr 2, 2008 12:13:57 GMT -6
I am probably wrong, but I would believe there comes a point when you reach an apex of 'schemes' and focus a helluva lot more time on development of your relationships with staff and the information delivery methods.
Whether a guy runs a 42 or a 33 or a 43, if you can do X,Y, and Z we can talk (working together).
If you run wing-t, DW, flexbone, ace-back zone, if you can do X,Y, and Z ( multiple threat) then we can talk (working together).
Does your philosophy jibe with mine........this is where all things cannot be equal
some things come down to just being the "right guy"
Parcells is widely regarded as the Lombardi of our time, and I wondered why he'd pick up guys like a lowly position coach like Freddie Kitchens in Dallas, or hire Sporano as HC if Miami.....
Who are we to question if these were the 'right hire'?
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Post by silkyice on Apr 2, 2008 14:32:49 GMT -6
"Its not about the x's and o's, its the jimmies and joes" It's a great quote, but I don't entirely believe it. I believe a better quote is "It's not the x's and o's, but how the jimmies and joes execute the x's and o's." X's and O's matter, jimmy and joes matter, techniques to execute the x's & o's matter, and execution matters. On the college level coaching should be even more responsible for the success of the team. They get to recruit their players. On the topic of thread, a completely agree with davecisar. The head coach shouldn't really expect different results.
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Post by hemlock on Apr 2, 2008 17:11:29 GMT -6
I fear that this discussion could degenerate very quickly into something entirely unproductive. Nonetheless, I will offer my two cents.
I appreciate Coach Cisar's comments, but I suspect that he is trying to find support for his belief that Callahan, Cosgrove, and Watson are degenerate coaches and that Osborn is a sage regardless of the time during which coached and the conditions that influenced the landscape of college ball during that epoch.
OK, I agree, Callahan did not work out. That does not mean that he, nor Cosgrove are bad coaches, or that they do not deserve the opportunity to lead programs and units in the future. They both earned their proverbial spurs a long time ago and are well respected by football men across the country. This is not really an opinion, but a fact. Maybe the Husker nation disagrees, and I am not questioning their right to do so, but that is more of a fan thing than a coaching thing. Most would agree that Callahan, and this is a valid reason for not hiring someone in the first place, was simply a bad fit for the culture of Nebraska football.
This brings me to my major point. As important as scheme, player relations, etc, is the degree to which the prospective coach fits the culture of the program that he is being hired to lead. I was part of a staff that got fired nearly ten years ago from a rather large Big East institution. Currently, I am the only member of the staff who is not in the NFL, and I chose to get out of football when I did to pursue a career in academia. Now, nobody can question the credentials of these coaches. These are all outstanding teachers, clinicians, etc, but we were a bad fit for the school. Administrative issues aside, we were perceived as professorial, white-collar, aloof, etc. In many ways, faced many of the same issues that Obama faces with blue-collar white voters in PA in terms of perception. Consequently, we were never able to recruit our in-state kids. When we were fired, the administration did the right thing by hiring a guy who understood the culture of the community, the state, etc and there has been no looking back. The upshot of this is that in many instances it is these off the field type things that are just as important as the on field stuff. Culturally, Pelini, is a much better fit than Callahan for Nebraska. I have no doubt that he will succeed, but he will succeed not because of his schemes, but because he, unlike his predecessor, will to some degree embrace the traditions of the program he leads and the culture of which he is now a part.
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