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Post by coach1234567 on Jun 15, 2005 7:47:39 GMT -6
Thanks for all the great replies to my initial question of the day. I guess I should put a date on them and a short subject because I plan on keeping this up. It's like a master's degree in coaching being taught by the professors. Well, here is my question for today. I always hear on TV about turnovers win ballgames, and my hs coach said the same thing. How do you create them and how do you prevent them from happening? Is it certain drills, mindset, strength?
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Post by tog on Jun 15, 2005 8:17:34 GMT -6
Scooby has some good points for how you hold onto the ball and run through traffic.
The defensive guys can probably answer the pack of wild dogs strip the ball drills (evil)
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fish
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Post by fish on Jun 15, 2005 8:39:07 GMT -6
ball carriers when carrying the ball should contact the ball with:
1. hand
2. forearm
3. bicep
4. ribcage
the fingers can be over the tip of th ball, or the tip can split the middle and forefingers, whichever they are most comfortable with. when going through traffic, the ball must be covered by both arms. you can and must practice this or else kids will carry it like a loaf of bread.
one drill that's easy and fun for the kids is just have them partner up and wrestle for the ball. give them about 5 seconds to wrestle. loser has 5 pushups.
guantlet where the ball carrier runs through a tunnel of kids while they slap, grab, claw, punch, whatever to try and get the ball loose.
the main point is the ball should be held tight against the body with one arm, and the other arm to be used as a shield to cover the ball or to stiff arm potential tacklers.
backs work on this the most, but receivers need it big time. wrs and qbs are probably the biggest culprits of not knowing how to carry the ball.
a great example of how to carry the ball is tiki barber of the ny giants. he never fumbles and he holds the ball tight against his body.
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cre44
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Post by cre44 on Jun 15, 2005 12:53:37 GMT -6
To add to fish - you also want to keep the elbow close to the body. when the elbow is away from the body it leaves you vulnerable to the punch from behind. One way to accomplish this is to have them keep their wrist above (higher) their elbow. This will force the ball in front of the body more than the side...also forcing the elbow in closer to the body.
I also use the heavy weighted balls when doing drills w/ the RB's. They do almost everything with a heavy ball in their hand (individual, sprints, etc). This builds muscle memory and confidence.
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scooby
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Post by scooby on Jun 16, 2005 7:51:50 GMT -6
we teach 5 points...similar to what fish said, but we break it down to
1. fingers over ball tip (spread index and middle over tip)
2. palm of hand
3. inside of fore arm
4. inside of bend in elbow
5. ribs (under pad level)
ball tip should be slightly up and pointed slightly in at midline of body. This way if the ball is hit from behind it drives into the hand, from the front it drives into the elbow. Very secure.
We don't use the other arm to cover the ball...we use it to run. after we have secured the hand off, when in traffic, we will keep the ball at the mid line of the body and use the pads to cover the ball...he should be running with good pad level anyway, so it naturally covers the top. This allows us to be explosive with the opther arm...we work on this with the blaster (or gauntlet). How many times do you ask a kid to run without using his arms? hard to be explosive that way.
If we have the ball at 5 points and then come into traffic, we simply slide the ball to the midline of the body and use the pads to cover the top, as described above.
When trading arms (we only teach RB's to trade, everybody else just learns to carry with 5 points) we slide the ball to the midline, bring opposite arm under to secure and slide it across. We feel that coming under this way rather than over allows us to keep the ball against the body during the trade and maintain 5 point contact.
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Post by coach1234567 on Jun 16, 2005 9:14:40 GMT -6
How do you defensive guys create turnovers? Scooby, when you say you just put the ball in the midline and then run with the extra arm with power, doesn't that make it easy to knock the ball out in traffic?
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scooby
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Post by scooby on Jun 16, 2005 10:05:02 GMT -6
when the ball is at the midline of the body, you still have 5 points on it and it is protected from contact by the pads because we keep it under pad level. it is not quite as secure as tucked in one arm because of the angle of the ball, but it as secure (or more so) than covering it with the other arm. When covering with the other arm, a common mistake that backs will make is that they will grab the opposite end of the ball with the top arm...this means that with one pull of the arm the ball will spin out. If they don't grab the other end, and they just cover it like they are taught, how much protection does that hand really give you vs the pads? When taking in the fact that they will not be able to run as explosively, they will get hit rather than delivering the blow and using the free arm to drive through defenders...getting hit can lead to a fumble more often than carrying the ball while hitting someone else will.
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