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Post by gamedog on Mar 30, 2006 10:24:45 GMT -6
I am going off of your statement where you said that if you only have 21 horses you need all of them. I just made a statement you don't need em if they aren't getting it done. You said they can count and know you need them. You don't need them. Don't play em. They'll either get better or leave.
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Post by wildcat on Mar 30, 2006 10:34:23 GMT -6
I am going off of your statement where you said that if you only have 21 horses you need all of them. I just made a statement you don't need em if they aren't getting it done. You said they can count and know you need them. You don't need them. Don't play em. They'll either get better or leave. That's typically what happens...the kids will weed themselves out. However, there are a handful who hang around for four years, but usually, not many. With that being said, it is nice to have those kids so you can at least have a scout team to practice against. My guess is that the year you had 25 kids but only 16 of them played, you guys will still able to run decent practices because you had enough warm bodies for a scout team. |
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Post by gamedog on Mar 30, 2006 10:38:18 GMT -6
We used the JV kids for scout mostly. The JV would go through their own individual drills and group and then would come over and be the scout for the varsity.
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Post by wildcat on Mar 30, 2006 10:39:50 GMT -6
yep. We have done that, too. Not the best method, IMO, but you gotta do what you gotta do!
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Post by gamedog on Mar 30, 2006 10:41:46 GMT -6
We didn't slaughter them(at least didn't try). Everthing was live except the tackle with the exception of GL on Tue and Wed for 5 minutes. That way they didn't have silver dollar eyes all of the time.
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Post by blb on Mar 30, 2006 10:45:59 GMT -6
Much ado about nothing?
wildcat, if you're winning 70% of the time ("Winning isn't a problem"), you may be seeing a problem where none exists. Obviously what you're doing works very well!
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Post by wildcat on Mar 30, 2006 11:20:18 GMT -6
Well, you can ALWAYS get better!
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Post by ndcoach on Mar 30, 2006 12:18:55 GMT -6
I know how you feel on the low numbers wildcat. we'll have 18 kids out next year, and that is from 2 schools. Although since basketball ended we have had 12 of those 18 lifting, among those who arn't are the senior class, next year we are going to have junior leadership
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Post by dmp225 on Mar 30, 2006 12:22:50 GMT -6
getting kids into the weight room is not a science. You have to create a program that will gain results and that the kids enjoy. Remind them that success in the weight room = success on the field. I was at a school last year where the program was hard to understand, but we switched it after the season and every kid is now showing up b/c they are seeing results. he school I am at now has a program the kids enjoy and they see results, and that makes them show up everyday.
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Post by wildcat on Mar 30, 2006 12:58:43 GMT -6
I know how you feel on the low numbers wildcat. we'll have 18 kids out next year, and that is from 2 schools. Although since basketball ended we have had 12 of those 18 lifting, among those who arn't are the senior class, next year we are going to have junior leadership That is awesome... All of our upperclassmen who didn't play basketball did a great job in the weightroom this past winter. F-S was a little more spotty, but we probably had about a third of next year's sophomores in. I'm really excited about our little guys. Most of the 7th and 8th graders who are football players have been coming in twice a week in the morning. Those guys are really motivated and will stick with it. I was really proud of our sophomore basketball players. 3 of them started on the varsity this past winter yet still managed two solid days a week in the weightroom. The one junior we have that played basketball didn't do squat this winter in the weightroom. With that being said, I can almost guarantee that his dad will be screaming bloody murder when we start a junior QB (one of those sophomore basketball players who lifted all winter) over his son. |
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Post by gamedog on Mar 30, 2006 14:14:19 GMT -6
I agree DMP...if they don't see results they won't come in. It's gotta be a get after it but have some fun aproach also.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Mar 30, 2006 15:53:16 GMT -6
Good points RE: results. One thing we've done here is film our guys lifting (usually just Cleans and Squat). We emphasize form a lot- generally, lifts go up when form improves. I usually film a set, then we watch it on the little screen on the camera right after- so they may do a set, watch their set, then do another. It has helped a lot.
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Post by toprowguy on Jan 14, 2007 9:59:54 GMT -6
Make phone calls home.
If a player is not in the weightroom one day, we call hometo see where he is.
This year we had a mom answer and said, "he should be there because he is not here". Five minutes later she was in our office looking for her son. She and the HC took a walk around the school and found her son hanging with a girl in front of the school. She went over and took him by the hand and walked him to the weightroom and watched him do every lift. He will never miss again.
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Post by superpower on Jan 14, 2007 16:45:02 GMT -6
That mom should get some kind of award!
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Post by coachcb on Jan 14, 2007 17:13:15 GMT -6
Great Stuff Fellas- Here' my 2 cents:
I would love to be able to require the kids to lift in order to play football, but I only know of a handful of communities where that would fly. So here's a compromise; make weight room time/other sport participation a stipulation for lettering. If the kid wants a letter in football than he'd better stay busy with winter/spring sports and/or lift during the school year. He'll also need to get his butt in there in the summertime. Also, make it a requirement for captain status; the kid may be Mr. Touchdown, but he'd better stay busy in the off season or he'll pay for it.
Honestly, weight room attendance all comes down to fun and tradition. Give awards during the year, post plaques with weight room records on it, set aside a football corner with a list of all conference/all-state kids on it, run a powerlifting meet, etc, etc.... Get the kids fired up about being in there and GET ON THEIR A$$ES WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE!
Heck, if I had my own HS program right now, I'd be using every little idea that's been thrown out on this thread.
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Post by CVBears on Jan 15, 2007 2:20:42 GMT -6
In the beginning of a program, when the apathy was at an all time high after a season with only a couple of wins, the coach called around to all the other coaches in the league to ask what the other schools' players were doing and going to do between now and the beginning of the next season. The coach had a team meeting, full of "were gonna beat 'em" cheer and rah rah. The coach unveiled the motto of the next year of "whatever it takes." The kids bought into it/loved the new motto. It was at this time, when the players had already made the commitment to do whatever it takes to win and be better, that he informed his players what the players of the other teams were doing. Worked pretty well.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 15, 2007 8:18:12 GMT -6
In the beginning of a program, when the apathy was at an all time high after a season with only a couple of wins, the coach called around to all the other coaches in the league to ask what the other schools' players were doing and going to do between now and the beginning of the next season. The coach had a team meeting, full of "were gonna beat 'em" cheer and rah rah. The coach unveiled the motto of the next year of "whatever it takes." The kids bought into it/loved the new motto. It was at this time, when the players had already made the commitment to do whatever it takes to win and be better, that he informed his players what the players of the other teams were doing. Worked pretty well. Good point here- make sure you have a couple team meetings in the off season. Don't just convey your expectations when the kids are checking in their gear, sit down with them 2-3 times before summer rolls around. Heck, meet with the parents too- explain to them what you're asking in the off season and why. Even if only handful of the parents harp on their kids about it, you'll be on the right track. |
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