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Post by tog on Feb 13, 2007 19:21:50 GMT -6
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Post by khalfie on Feb 13, 2007 19:44:44 GMT -6
Oh...
I love that!
Hill Larry Us!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2007 19:55:54 GMT -6
That's pretty good; of course, if it was Arkansas, the mom would have went to the AD and the kid would have transferred!!
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Post by utchuckd on Feb 13, 2007 20:28:33 GMT -6
OMG that's great!
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Post by coachcb on Feb 13, 2007 20:32:58 GMT -6
Thats friggin awesome. Dan Hawkins is a great guy and a great coach- he's going to do great things for the CU football program. Including advertising for intramurals.
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Post by chewy on Feb 13, 2007 22:31:02 GMT -6
Here Here
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Post by coachjd on Feb 13, 2007 22:44:45 GMT -6
Intramurals--- classic!!
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Post by ocinaz on Feb 13, 2007 22:55:17 GMT -6
That is some of the funniest s**t I have heard in my short existence.....I almost spit my gatorade all over my monitor.....
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Post by okpowerspread on Feb 13, 2007 23:52:38 GMT -6
Dan Hawkins was the HC at Boise St last season and is one of the big reasons they had the success they had this last season. Not to take anything away from the staff up there now, but all of the kids that made an impact on the field were his kids. I think its just a matter of time before he has similar results at Colorado. I have not looked at it, but I don't think the Big 12 North is head and shoulders above the top half of the WAC. So good luck to him.
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Post by saintrad on Feb 13, 2007 23:52:47 GMT -6
LOVE IT!!! Now that's the way to coach and recruit!
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Post by amikell on Feb 14, 2007 0:14:38 GMT -6
good stuff. reminds me of the first time i went up against the all conference DT in practice. i got my @$$ kicked and the coach said, "Welcome to college football, baby!!!"
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Post by CVBears on Feb 14, 2007 0:38:17 GMT -6
Probably the best recruiting tool he has right now
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Post by dubber on Feb 14, 2007 1:02:18 GMT -6
small price to pay for a free education
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Post by pantherpride91 on Feb 14, 2007 7:44:15 GMT -6
great stuff!...about time we see some life out of that program
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Post by Coach Bruce on Feb 14, 2007 9:17:50 GMT -6
LOL...That dude is B-A-D.
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Post by wingtol on Feb 14, 2007 18:03:17 GMT -6
Everyone seems to have missed the Hulk Hogan........BROTHER!......he droped at the end. I played that about 50 times today and was cryin!
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Post by bucksweepdotcom on Feb 15, 2007 6:20:19 GMT -6
Am I the only one that thinks he sounded a little "silly" for lack of a better word? But not disagreeing with what he said. I think we have all said something similar at all the levels we have coached, "Son, this aint PopWarner/MiddleSchool/JV/etc. You're playing _________ now! It is a little different at this level!"
Bryan
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Post by playfast on Feb 15, 2007 6:31:45 GMT -6
Could of not said it any better. Kids or college students just don't want to work!!!!!
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Post by gatorball on Feb 15, 2007 7:06:14 GMT -6
Typical coward parent, it was an anonymous letter. Its about time a coach fired back
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Post by tog on Feb 15, 2007 7:19:36 GMT -6
i actually heard some media jokers saying on the radio this morning how they thought it was inappropriate and stupid for him to be yelling at a media member like that
those guys don't get it
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Post by coachveer on Feb 15, 2007 7:30:18 GMT -6
That was great....However, he better not go 2-10 next year.
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Post by bucksweepdotcom on Feb 15, 2007 7:31:16 GMT -6
I think some of the kids should watch this video! So see what it could be like at CU!
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Post by Yash on Feb 15, 2007 12:32:30 GMT -6
I loved it how he flipped the switch from normal conversation voice to yelling instantly. I think he was right in doing what he did. those kids need to realize, it ain't the gary barnett era anymore. and when do parents finally cut the cord and let the kid handle their own affairs?
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Post by fbdoc on Feb 15, 2007 16:38:54 GMT -6
Have always liked Dan Hawkins. Head Coach at Willamette University in Oregon (Hired Mark Speckman to run the FLY) and then onto Boise and now CU. Great Stuff! And I did love the "BROTHER" comment!
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Post by Yash on Feb 16, 2007 21:26:10 GMT -6
He apologized for this today saying that he didn't mean to be yelling and that he meant it all in a joking manor and whatever. Why should he have to apologize for the truth!!! These kids are getting a free education to play football. Quit complaining, suck it up and maybe you'll be the ones beating OU on the hook and ladder and statue of liberty play.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 17, 2007 7:24:59 GMT -6
Again, just to play devils advocate here...for the resident students, the value of this "mythial" free education is about $7.69 an hour. (took an average yearly expense of 16,000 divided by the standard fulltime 2080 hour work year) . For Non-residents, that increases to about $16.34 an hour, but obviously students who could not afford that would not be going to CU out of state.
Bottom line, Division I colleges are not doing any "favors" for kids. They are using them to feed the machine. The often quoted "free education" could be obtained by spending the hours spent in football at the local Taco Bell or Starbucks. (Or bartending/bouncing once they hit 21)
There are perks and benefits that go along with being an athlete, which of course would add to the value. I am not saying they are not getting value from their work as a player, but I am simply saying it would not be hard for them to receive a similar value in other ways.
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Post by locharion on Feb 17, 2007 8:37:41 GMT -6
I just had the opportunity to see Coach Hawkins speak yesterday at the Nike Clinic here in St. Louis. The talk was very similar to what you can find on the "Champions" powerpoint that is on the site. He talked about how he has built success through adversity in all places he has been and promised Colorado would contend for a national championship one day.
When it came to adversity, he said he had losing records in the first couple of years at the NAIA level and Division II level. He said that no matter how rough things got this past year, he encouraged the staff to stay up and kept saying, "We've got to keep finding a solution because the players aren't going to change."
To give you an idea that sometimes records aren't all as they appear, he said that in six games this year, Colorado had a lead at one point in the game and in another three games, Colorado had the lead in the fourth quarter. In all games, he said he went back and looked at the film and told his players there were about five snaps in each game that decided what happened. When Colorado learns to finish, those games will fall in their favor. Even though he mentioned that the former Buffaloes coach was a friend, he said that when he arrived they had only 11 players that could clean 300 lbs and that a high school down the street had 19.
Besides the excellent motivational talk, three thing stood out to me.
1. His unwavering belief that he was building a contender.
2. The greatest compliment he ever received was after the whole press quote came out, many of his former players called him and emailed him saying that he did the right thing and he was going to succeed.
3. The quote of the whole talk: "Quit worrying about winning and just be a winner. If you do that, everything will balance itself out."
I know there are some Boise State fans that think they got the better end of the deal when Hawkins left and they kept Chris Petersen, but it was evident that Hawk was the man who helped make that program into what it was. This is a guy who constantly preaches to his kids about getting out of their comfort zones and responds by going sky diving with his daughter and training for a marathon that will be run in Australia. Considering he said he is not fond of heights and he still looks like a college fullback, those are not easy things.
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Post by kboyd on Feb 17, 2007 8:50:47 GMT -6
I had a chance to meet Coach Hawkins at a Nike conference in Minneapolis a few years back. The guys a dynamic speaker and seems to have a knack for the dramatic. This interview is pure and simple funny and he's got a point. These kids are being given a tremendous opportunity and they have to make some sacrifices along the way. I've been working a lot of years and I have four weeks holidays now, so hey - welcome to the real world.
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Post by phantom on Feb 17, 2007 9:04:51 GMT -6
Again, just to play devils advocate here...for the resident students, the value of this "mythial" free education is about $7.69 an hour. (took an average yearly expense of 16,000 divided by the standard fulltime 2080 hour work year) . For Non-residents, that increases to about $16.34 an hour, but obviously students who could not afford that would not be going to CU out of state. Bottom line, Division I colleges are not doing any "favors" for kids. They are using them to feed the machine. The often quoted "free education" could be obtained by spending the hours spent in football at the local Taco Bell or Starbucks. (Or bartending/bouncing once they hit 21) There are perks and benefits that go along with being an athlete, which of course would add to the value. I am not saying they are not getting value from their work as a player, but I am simply saying it would not be hard for them to receive a similar value in other ways. Just to advocate the other devil: 1. It would be awfully tough to work fulltime and be a fulltime student at the same time. I know that some people do it but not many. If they did they certainly wouldn't have time to play a sport as well. Let's remember that most of them like to play football. 2. Don't forget that many if not most scholarship athletes might not have been admitted to their college if they were not receiving athletic scholarships. Oh, they might meet the "on paper" admission standards but grade inflation has made those guidelines obsolete. Does a 3.0 student with a 950 SAT get admitted into Virginia Tech as a regular student? 3. Don't forget the other perks like free gear, tutoring, and bowl trips at the 1A level. I'm not saying that athletes are spoiled. They earn what they get. They do get a lot, though.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 17, 2007 9:10:34 GMT -6
Again, just to play devils advocate here...for the resident students, the value of this "mythial" free education is about $7.69 an hour. (took an average yearly expense of 16,000 divided by the standard fulltime 2080 hour work year) . For Non-residents, that increases to about $16.34 an hour, but obviously students who could not afford that would not be going to CU out of state. Bottom line, Division I colleges are not doing any "favors" for kids. They are using them to feed the machine. The often quoted "free education" could be obtained by spending the hours spent in football at the local Taco Bell or Starbucks. (Or bartending/bouncing once they hit 21) There are perks and benefits that go along with being an athlete, which of course would add to the value. I am not saying they are not getting value from their work as a player, but I am simply saying it would not be hard for them to receive a similar value in other ways. Just to advocate the other devil: 1. It would be awfully tough to work fulltime and be a fulltime student at the same time. I know that some people do it but not many. If they did they certainly wouldn't have time to play a sport as well. Let's remember that most of them like to play football. 2. Don't forget that many if not most scholarship athletes might not have been admitted to their college if they were not receiving athletic scholarships. Oh, they might meet the "on paper" admission standards but grade inflation has made those guidelines obsolete. Does a 3.0 student with a 950 SAT get admitted into Virginia Tech as a regular student? 3. Don't forget the other perks like free gear, tutoring, and bowl trips at the 1A level. I'm not saying that athletes are spoiled. They earn what they get. They do get a lot, though. I would agree with your points 2 and 3, as they are the other perks I alluded to. As to the point about full time work, my entire point is that football players are putting in fulltime hours, and as calculated one could argue that their rate of pay is about 8 bucks. Please do not be fooled by the 20 hour a week rule.
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