tate
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Post by tate on Feb 11, 2011 15:20:58 GMT -6
Can you define these terms to the point that a youth player will understand you?
Blocking:
1) shoulder blocking
2) hand blocking
3) flipper blocking
Tackling
1) shoulder tackling
2) chest plate tackling
Which technique is better for youth football and why? On the blocking would you change your tech. if you change your X's and O's from lets say a single wing with no splits (foot to foot) to a flex-bone with 3ft splits?
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Post by coachbrek on Feb 11, 2011 16:10:51 GMT -6
I went away from hands blocking a number of years ago for one reason and that is holding penalties.
We get some extremely poor reffing in our league and particularly horrifying in a specific town.
I went to a combo style of blocking to eliminate holding penalties.
six inch step with play side foot, load with backside flipper, explode flipper and shoulder under breast plate of defender on second step, punch under armpit of defender with play side hand, run your feet through the block turning backside to the hole.
For whatever reason two hands extended inside the framework of the shoulder pads of a defender was holding at a specific town.
I absolutely had to change blocking technique because of the refs.
I used to run wide splits and run option using hand blocking, since I have been mandated to run the wing T and the combo shoulder blocking has served us well.
We use the Miami tackling circuit for our tackling progression.
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Post by bobgoodman on Feb 11, 2011 20:53:49 GMT -6
Can you define these terms to the point that a youth player will understand you? Are you asking for something you can tell them to convey it? In that case I think you're out of luck. Some introductory words, OK, but then you have to show them. Or are you asking us to describe it to you in such a way that you will be able to show them? My impression of chest tackling is that too often it leaves the tackler's face in a dangerous place of questionable legality. The chest tackle is efficient at transmitting force thru the tackler's hips in a single shot, but relies on the poorly angled human breast bone for contact. Shoulder-to-chest tackling puts some buffer between the opponent and the tackler's head, and shoulder-to-hip tackling at least gets the front & top of the head beyond the opponent. The other thing about shoulder tackles is that their mechanics have so much in common with shoulder blocks that it should be easier to learn them together. A chest tackle might, however, have some mechanics in common with hands blocking. |
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Post by coachmsl on Feb 12, 2011 6:52:36 GMT -6
We hand block and chest plate tackle. Check out Hugh Wyatt "Surer and Safer Tackling".
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Post by los on Feb 13, 2011 21:23:47 GMT -6
I'll give it a shot....first, shoulder and flipper blocking are the same thing to me......a 3rd choice might be a crab block or scramble block, according to your terminology?.....so in my terminology, you'd have hands,shoulder/flipper and crab blocking.....the thing thats sets crab blocking apart from the other two styles is you're not trying to make immediate contact with the defender,but rather,establish position in the area you want to defend and crab or bearcrawl back into the opponent.......the other two types of blocks are basically the same to me, as far as firing out with low pad level and the position and power steps and keeping your head and eyes up.....the difference's would be in aiming points.... the type of initial strike to get the defender off balance = 2 hand punch in hands blocking......forearm lift in shoulder blocking......head position(shoulder blocking generally requires getting your "head across the bow" or to the side of the defender the ball is going).....hands blocking imho requires much more active feet to maintain position(keeping your body between the defender and ball carrier).......the object of both blocking styles is still to knock the defender off the los, hopefully into the LB's lap......and at the point of the defender trying to escape and pursue, be in a position to finish the block by planting him on his backside.........tackling with your shoulder or chest plate is basically the same as the blocking for each style,to me......shoulder tackling = head across the bow or face on the football,thrust the arms,lock up and drive thru......chest to chest is basically like hands blocking, just substitute thrusting the arms and grabbing cloth for the 2 hand punch and run thru the ball carrier.....from there,the only difference is, in one technique you'll be looking the guy in the eyeballs as you land on him,when you plant him on his back....the other way,you'll have your head off to one side or the other.....thats about it! In youth ball,especially with my blocking backs, I wanted them to get used to blocking with their hands, so they had a chance to push a kid down and continue down the field,looking for another block.....so while we taught and used all 3 types of blocks.....2 hand punch/hands.....forearm lift/shoulder.....and crab/ scamble blocking....I'd have to say we were predominately a hands team blocking wise and a chest to chest tackling style.....this was with both age groups I coached 8-10's and 11-12's......far as defining or explaining the blocking and tackling styles so the kids can understand......a "picture" is worth a thousand words.....if they can see another kid do it right, they'll get the idea.....otherwise, just break each type of block or tackle into drillable segments that they can rep.....put them all together and you have a finished product.  |
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