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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 10, 2011 8:44:50 GMT -6
What are you guys most excited about watching tonight? I'm particular excited to see how Oregon handles Nick Fairley. If they're maybe going to use their midline read option a lot in order to make him as much of a non-factor as they can.
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Post by struceri on Jan 10, 2011 8:55:47 GMT -6
I wondered that myself. Optionis great because it can neutralize the other teams best defensive player. I would expect Oregon to option off of Fairley. I am excited and cant wait to see the game. wish it would hurry up and get here
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Post by jackedup on Jan 10, 2011 9:32:31 GMT -6
I'm interested to see how Auburn handles the game speed of Oregon. I was just talking with another coach about what I would do if preparing for a team that fast. I think that if Auburn slows down the pace of the game and milks the clock, it can really disrupt the timing of Oregon's offense. Now, of course, they need to score when they are doing this.
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Post by flexoption91 on Jan 10, 2011 10:19:16 GMT -6
Last year when Oregon really came on the scene with their victory over USC they used alot of zone midline and carved up the trojans.
I am in the same boat as you empty and want to see if they are going to use their same scheme.
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Post by coachbdud on Jan 10, 2011 12:23:17 GMT -6
Im excited for this game, love both teams, i really don't know who I want to win... Im a west coast guy, But i love everything Auburn does... Ill just cheer for whoever is on Offense I might have to fire up the DVD recorder for this one
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Post by dubber on Jan 10, 2011 12:49:29 GMT -6
Both teams are run first and throw deep off PA kind of teams, so it will be interesting to me to see the early gameplanning concerning short, ball controlled passes.
I have a feeling that if either offense cannot establish the short passing game, they will struggle to stay on schedule.
3rd and long is tough for every offense, and despite the fantastic offensive pedigree of both these clubs, they are even less inclined to convert 3rd and longs (QB scrambles notwithstanding)......which hasn't been a problem, until they faced a polished, TALENTED, ultra-prepared, and FRESH defense like they will tonight.
I'll give the edge to the squad that takes advantage of a defense that will be playing run first and deep PA second, leaving underneath throws ripe for the picking.
If neither team seizes this avenue of attack, this game may be lower scoring than we think, or turnovers (because the offense is behind in the series and/or on the scoreboard) will turn it into a blowout.
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Post by leighty on Jan 10, 2011 13:44:45 GMT -6
Outside of Nick Fairley, I don't think either defense is particularly talented. I think this will be a track meet, and the team with the ball last will win.
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Post by struceri on Jan 10, 2011 13:47:32 GMT -6
Im just hoping I can stay up late enough to watch the whole thing!
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Post by brophy on Jan 10, 2011 14:31:09 GMT -6
dubber makes a good point about the quick game. Fairley is a monster and how Oregon contends with him will be something to watch (like TCU did with Witt). Thing is, those AU ends aren't bad,either....it will be interesting how those guys hold up through halftime and how much Chizik will try to reign the tempo in.
This has all the makings (like every BCS game) of a coach's dream review....the only thing that could possibly get in the way is the broadcast crews not keeping pace and missing several snaps throughout the game because they feel compelled to do fan /coach/booth shots instead of watching the field
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Post by spreadattack on Jan 10, 2011 15:48:48 GMT -6
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Post by pvogel on Jan 10, 2011 17:30:58 GMT -6
im curious to see how they play after such a long break. its amazing that they go month or so before playing again.
and im also curious to see what the weeks of preperation were like but i dont think we'll find that out.
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Post by brophy on Jan 10, 2011 17:42:24 GMT -6
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Post by realdawg on Jan 10, 2011 18:00:03 GMT -6
Just hoping with all of this snow changing over to sleet and freezing rain that I dont lose power! If it dont I am golden because they have already called off school tomorrow here.
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Post by dazzleox on Jan 10, 2011 19:17:24 GMT -6
50/50 after 583,000 votes! PS take away New England and it looks like George Wallace vs. LBJ or something.
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Post by lionhart on Jan 10, 2011 21:12:23 GMT -6
anybody know why malzahn prefers to call plays from the field? i know lots of guys do it..... but has he ever spoken about it?
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 10, 2011 23:12:00 GMT -6
Outside of Nick Fairley, I don't think either defense is particularly talented. I think this will be a track meet, . It seems that when this is the prediction,the defenses show up and the game turns out to be much lower scoring, as was the case tonight.
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Post by 19delta on Jan 10, 2011 23:16:08 GMT -6
Outside of Nick Fairley, I don't think either defense is particularly talented. I think this will be a track meet, . It seems that when this is the prediction,the defenses show up and the game turns out to be much lower scoring, as was the case tonight. I told my buddy the same thing at halftime. Why does that seem to happen? It seems whenever the game is expected to be a shootout, the defenses dominate and when it is expected to be a defensive game, it is high-scoring? I guess the players and coaches don't watch the pregame shows!
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Post by sin86 on Jan 10, 2011 23:18:15 GMT -6
All I can say is they are doing something right in the state of Alabama.
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Post by unc31 on Jan 10, 2011 23:20:23 GMT -6
I would say that one of the biggest lessons from this game is : To stop the gun midline, have your 3 technique get penetration. Oregon got blown up several times because of the depth of Fairley's pentration.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 10, 2011 23:51:50 GMT -6
I would say that one of the biggest lessons from this game is : To stop the gun midline, have your 3 technique get penetration. Oregon got blown up several times because of the depth of Fairley's pentration. I agree. The announcers said it was a bad read, but Fairley was back there so quickly. When he had to make the read I couldn't tell who Fairley was attacking even in slow motion.
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Post by gdn56 on Jan 11, 2011 0:00:48 GMT -6
Exactly. The mesh point is so deep that when a 3 who has such a wide body as him meets it at the mesh point, he disrupts the entire operation. I would have been curious to see them run the midline off of the stretch as opposed to the IZ for 2 reasons: 1. The angle of the back is wider so its difficult for him to play the back through blowing up the mesh alone. 2. Oregon just had more success with the Stretch.
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Post by gdn56 on Jan 11, 2011 0:04:40 GMT -6
All I can say is they are doing something right in the state of Alabama. And it is so different to watch the way the two programs have approached it. I mean, you have Nick Saban, proven pro-style coach, solid defense and kicking game, pro-style offense designed to not put the D in a hole. At Auburn you have Chizik, program built on swagger. They recruit in a stretch limo, go out and hire Malzhan, "sexy" offense with tons of mis-direction and smoke and mirrors....just two totally different styles. Very intersting to watch. And....I guess there is some talent in the state!
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Post by waltkus72 on Jan 11, 2011 0:45:37 GMT -6
Fairley said in a postgame interview that he watched tons of film and that his coaches told him to expect midline and to just attack the quarterback. He also said that he was told not to get caught in between and just attack. So I guess that ones on Thomas of Oregon.
Oh anyone else here Coach Meyer talk about the Single Wing in his post game analysis of Oregon in the red zone... Yup, Tebow Jump Pass, gap blocking ... oh the glory days.
Also does anyone know why Oregon went away from the OZ whether it was Jet or stretch? Everything was Zone triple, IZ, or IZ midline.
ONE more. Related To GDN56 if you combined midline with stretch wouldn't that just be an inverted veer except your zone blocking it, instead of doubling in veer?
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Post by fingerz42 on Jan 11, 2011 1:39:06 GMT -6
I would think that over 4 months of preparation from the defenses is what allowed the offensive struggles tonight. It seemed early on that Oregon was trying all sorts of different wrinkles that I had never seen them do prior. With the defenses so tutored up on eachother's offensive gameplan it was almost as if each coach felt inclined to bring in a bunch of new wrinkles and maybe even change up their gameplan.
I understand the front four of Auburn absolutely dominated the Oregon offensive line and thus they were unable to run as much as they wanted, but it seemed right from play 1 that Oregon's gameplan was to throw much more than normal.
The midline play was what I figured they would go to time and time again to slow down the play of Fairley, but once I saw him blow it up two or three times I was left eating my words. They absolutely shut down the midline perfectly.
Great game, but I hated for it to go down in the final two minutes as it did.
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Post by waltkus72 on Jan 11, 2011 2:09:53 GMT -6
Yeah fingerz I was surprised also with the passing, but shouldn't of been. When Kelley was in New Hampshire he had a kid named Ricky Santos and him and his WR (forgot his name) just broke massive amount of records. I know Santos just threw the ball around when Kelley was there. I just didn't think Thomas had that great of an arm (missed a few key passes, and threw some questionable balls).
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Post by ozcoach on Jan 11, 2011 3:23:19 GMT -6
I think Fairley just made the big start DTs of the country become even more valued. Everyone will be on the lookout for the next Suh and Fairley as the key to disruption, even against a speed team it can be seen the battle is won upfront.
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Post by mariner42 on Jan 11, 2011 4:08:54 GMT -6
A guy like Fairley or Suh gives a numbers advantage vs a spread team, or at least shifts the numbers advantage back into the favor of the defense, as God intended. Having a beastly 3 tech lets your LB on that side play a bit looser in coverage because he doesn't have to be so much of a run presence.
I really think part of the next evolution of stopping the spread offenses out there won't be doing too much different with the DBs or alignments as much as a re-emphasizing of the DL. If your DL whips their butts, you'll probably win, yeah?
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Post by brophy on Jan 11, 2011 6:25:56 GMT -6
could anything have changed, and or what would have been the response had the AU runner actually broke the plane and scored on that last run (ala Broncos-Packers 1997)?
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Post by fballcoachg on Jan 11, 2011 7:22:47 GMT -6
MVP's- Auburn-Dyer and Fairley(dominated the OL but there was one or two times they didn't touch him in pass pro, how do you ignore that guy?)
Oregon-The Punter, 2 ballsy calls on the extra point speed option and the fake punt pass, both of which executed perfectly by the punter
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Post by brophy on Jan 11, 2011 7:28:24 GMT -6
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